AmyUD06

Tornado at Stricker's Grove. Mostly mild except for the most intense ejector airtime moment I've ever experienced.

I'm sorry that not continuing to broadcast and support racist things doesn't fit your twisted world view. Its Disney; I can guarantee it won't be "a half baked overlay." Might I suggest you stick to the Darien Lake thread where every post is a joke.

Yeah, I totally get it. Thanks, it was a good time

In today's bizzarro news, it appears that their "the market can support insane prices" theory has collapsed, by virtue of them offering a season pass for slightly less than double the cost of a one-day ticket. Daily ticket on a Saturday: $79 Season Pass through 9/30/22: $139 https://americandream.com/nickelodeon_season_pass/tickets

Sadly, KD doesn't really hold a candle to KI, and I say that as KD being my home park. I305 and Twisted Timbers are amazing top-tier rides, Reptilian/Avalanche is awesome, and Dominator may be the best floorless, but after that the coaster collection really falls on its face. Otherwise they pretty much have the same collection of flats. KD has a little more shade, but KI has the better food options and operations. Fast Lane/Plus is also nowhere near as effective at KD, and isn't offered on quite a few rides. Twisted Timbers now has the same stupid locker setup as Steel Vengeance, making FL be much less effective than it used to be. Crowd's shouldn't be too bad on a non-holiday Monday, but anything is possible in this post-COVID world. Oh, and I305 absolutely blows Orion out of the water; you will definitely be impressed. I think you won't be disappointed, but temper your expectations. As for strategy: -I highly recommend FL+, even if it is less effective here than KI. Note that you can redeem your voucher or buy it at almost any gift shop, not just the redemption center up front. The following strategy involves working around that. -Dominator and Berzerker (inverting ship) open a half hour before the rest of the park; if you get there at opening and are towards the front of the crowd, you should be able to bang both of these out with minimal waits. -After that, once the rest of the park opens, start a clockwise circle by heading to Woodstock Express (not on FL, and standing in long lines with a bunch of kids is weird), Tumbili (not on FL) and Reptilian. Even though the latter is on FL, the capacity on the ride is horrible. -Next, head to Anaconda. Not on FL, and not worth any kind of wait. -Your next destination is Racer 75; not on FL and the line splits at the very start of the queue, unlike Racer at KI. Might only be running one train on a Monday. -Next is Apple Zapple; not on FL. -After that, Grizzly. Also not on FL, and though it won't get too much of a line all day, still not worth any kind of wait. -From there, you can do what you want. I'd suggest reversing the circle, and hitting the rides that you skipped because they were on on FL for the first lap. By this time, Twisted Timbers has worked through its normal morning jitters and should be running consistently. If you plan on doing the water park, don't forget to walk all the way to the back of it; there's a whole 'nother section back there that's kinda hidden. Let me know if you need any further tips.

Just got back to my hotel after my first trip to Holiday World. A full report will follow, but here are some bullet points: -Legend, Raven, and Voyage are all insanely good rides for different reasons, despite the roughness on the first and last of those. All have found a place in my Top lists (see signature). I regretted skipping rerides only 15 minutes down the road, but the extreme heat combined with the not-exactly-smooth wooden coasters had given me a recurring headache. -Water coasters are absolutely bonkers! This was my first time going on any of them, and holy shit. Airtime on a water ride! -This is going to be probably a me-only problem, but the water park needs more for solo-traveling adults who are mostly introverted. It's weird getting on a big group-tube with a bunch of randos, sorry not sorry. There's plenty of kids slides and big-tube slides, but there are only three solo slides and they are all super short. -SHADE! After my day at KK yesterday, this day was so much better on my body despite the hills because of the ample shade (excepting the long walk back to Thunderbird). -Anyone who says KK is an objectively better park than this is out of their mind.

I'm convinced that Mad Mouse rumor is Screamscape being it's normal "ideas out of it's ass" self. I cannot imagine Cedar Fair sending such a low capacity, dead-manufacturer, ride to it's flagship park.

Let's be honest here....I would be very surprised anyone in the park's social media office is over the age of 25. Those born 25 years ago were born in 1997, almost 15 years after the fire, so by the time they get to an age to be cognizant to things like that, that's 25-30 years since the fire. Anyone that worked there when it happened, even big shots, have most likely retired by now. It's not a bright spot in the history of the park, so why would it be mentioned to new hires?* Nobody knows about it except park enthusiasts and "boomers" who were local to the area when it happened, which is sad...but a reasonable expectation. *I worked there from 1998-2003, and no one ever officially told me about the haunted house fire.

So I just got back to my hotel from a quick 2 hour stop at KK. Those who said I wouldn't need 3.5 hours were absolutely right; I encountered nothing more than a station wait for any ride; longest of the day was T3 at 21-22 minutes for the front row, including ride time. I'll end up posting a detailed report when this road trip is done, but here are some bullet points: -You guys weren't kidding about no shade. Eeesh....in 90+ degree heat, with half of the food/beverage places open, it was brutal, even for those two hours. -Layout wasn't confusing, but I would call it "bad" - lots of dead areas with no rides or shops or anything (or shade LOL). -I was able to hit all 6 coasters, and rank them as follows: 1. Thunder Run front row. 2. Storm Chaser 3. Lightning Run 4. Kentucky Flyer 5. Roller Skater 6. T3 500. Thunder Run back row -I was able to make Thunder Run my 250th, which was satisfying since I rode it in the front first. Insane ride, easily earning a place in my Top 10 Woodies. The back row, however, was absolutely brutal and would be right at home in the 10 worst coaster rides I've ever had. Horrid. -I definitely enjoyed Lightning Run, and will join the cadre of "Why didn't anyone ever order another one of these?" I actually found the ejector a bit too strong at a few points, to be honest. -Storm Chaser was typical RMC awesomeness, and I rank it towards the top of the RMCs that I've ridden. I could go either way with whether this or Thunder Run front row are the best rides in the park. -I didn't see what was so bad about T3; rode in the front row. The restraints, while not as good as the Vekoma vests and they do hurt your thighs by the end (not as bad as SkyRush though), are an infinite improvement over the old hard OSTRs. You just need to push out on those handles and push your head back against the restraint. Anyone who "broke their teeth" on the joysticks is an idiot. Sure, it's no Great Nor'Easter, but I've definitely ridden worse SLCs. -I can totally echo Zach's comments a few pages back about the staff. Plenty of them, but only like 3 I encountered made any sort of effort to interact with anyone. -Water park seemed nice, but I didn't stop in. EDIT: And as quickly as it entered by top 10 wooden coasters, Thunder Run has been bumped out. Holiday World's two are substantially better, as is the park as a whole (you guys who say otherwise are on crack LOL).

Indeed. Sadly you probably won't have to wait too long for that.

Ooops....that's what I get for posting from my phone.

Edit: I am a doofus who can't read. My bad.

Running as of today at least.

I had to read it twice to make sure it didn't say 2023. Color me impressed. I can only imagine the comments full of MAGAts complaining about the "equality" part of the catchphrase LOL.

Seriously. The last time I was here was 5 years ago and I skipped Exterminator and a bunch of the classic flat rides, partially due to time constraints and partially due to nonoperation. The Iron Curtain wasn't at the park then, so I was hoping to be able to stop in here on my way further west and grab those missing credits. We'll see if Exterminator is running. I arrived at around 1:30 and have only gotten on Old Mill (better than Garfield but disappointing) and Racer. About halfway through the line for Jack Rabbit as I type this. Edit: Just in case someone doubts Bill: Edit: Oh, and Sky Rocket was down when I came in too, and probably still is because Kennywood. It opened later.

For anyone thinking about a trip to Kennywood this week/end: The entire area is closed off today. Major bummer.

What Bill said; outside of the water park and Wild Mouse, nothing will have any substantial lines. You might have to wait 15 minutes for Thunderhawk LOL. The Fast Lane Plus is sort of worth it for the water park alone, but note that not all of the slides over there are part of the program.

Main coasters as in all adult coasters and the Bayern Kurve and Enterprise? If so, I think I found my December trip.

On another note, does anyone know how much of the park they run for Winterfest? Please tell me it's everything.

I guess we know when MiA, WoF, and Dorney are getting their next coasters...LOL but not really. This is kinda sad, but they are a business first and foremost. Guess I know where my first trip in 2023 will be. My speculation on the destination for their coasters and major rides, based solely on what I think they need, not any actual land-use planning: -Berserker (Schwarzkopf Bayern Kurve) - Dorney Park, please please pretty please? -Delta Flyer (Von Roll sky ride) - Sent to CP for spare parts -Demon - Scrapped -Drop Tower - Do any of their parks not have a drop tower? MiA? -Flight Deck - Kings Dominion -Gold Striker - WoF -Orbit (Schwarzkopf Enterprise) - Kings Dominion, please please pretty please? -Patriot - MiA -Psycho Mouse (Arrow wild mouse)- Scrapped -RailBlazer - KBF or Dorney Park -Star Tower - Scrapped -Grizzly - Scrapped -Either of the kiddie coasters - Kings Island or Dorney Park

Such a dark, dark day in American history. Honestly scared what this Dobbs decision means for likes of Griswold, Eisenstadt, Lawrence, Obergefell and who knows how many other decisions. End rant.

My money's still on a christmas-time opening.

So the way it works now is the FL merges into the regular line before the start of the long straight section of queue under the structure of the ride. At the end of that, before the zig-zag that leads to the stairs to the station, to the left is the locker area. One way in and out. They stop everyone there and tell them if they have stuff they need to go to the lockers. If you instead go right and through the metal detectors, and they go off, they send you back against the flow of traffic to the locker area. It's horrible.

@grsupercityMaybe that was the difference? Either way, I'm glad you had an enjoyable ride haha! @redfoot12I'm a nearly-40 individual and was male-presenting; I didn't experience any kinda feelings like that, but I can see where you're coming from. That sucks. @bert425It's an easy park to miss (just like Delgrosso's). I live less than an hour away and haven't been there since I was a little kid. The Sky Princess/Kingdom Coaster is definitely worth it, and I'd imagine the flats you mentioned and the Wonderhouse are as well, but yeah the daily price is just insane for an adult. I'm not sure how many platinum pass sales they get; the next closest park in the chain is Idlewild which is a solid 3 hours away, but yeah the platinum pass is the only way to make this worth it (if and only if you're also hitting a bunch of other Palace parks the same year). Finally, thank you so much to @robbalveyand/or @SharkTums for featuring this report on the main page of the site. I don't think anything I've posted has ever been featured before, and it's an honor. Thank you again!

I'll try to answer point by point -Fast Lane does not exist for Kiddy Hawk (Vekoma hang-and-bang), Woodstock Express (Jr. woodie that should not be skipped), or Ricochet (basically the same wild mouse as is at Kings Dominion). If you care about any of these, I'd head to one of those first. -No idea about Nighthawk -I recall the mac & cheese at Harmony Hall being decent, but I'm sure one of the foodies here will chime in with more recommendations. -Hurler is rough. If you're desperate for the credit, ride in the front. If you're not a credit counter, I'd honestly just skip it. -Copperhead Strike, I prefer the back seat. You'll get plenty of hangtime no matter where you sit. -Grand Carnivale, if it's the same parade/show as what they did at Kings Dominion, is entertaining enough but not worth deviating from your plans for. No idea about the fireworks. -Don't skip on the Enterprise, "Scream Weaver," or the Sol-Spin, "Electro Spin." Both are very rare flats for entirely different reasons. I recall their mine train being fun too. The Boomerang is one of the better ones, with the new vest restraints. Boo Blasters is the same at the one at Kings Dominion, if you've been there. The water park isn't terrible but doesn't have anything that other CF waterparks don't, if I recall correctly. It will be very hot, plan accordingly and hydrate appropriately. Don't cross the state line with a beer or other alcoholic beverage in your hand or you'll be technically guilty of a federal crime (bootlegging), though nothing will happen to you except maybe security yelling at you. There will be signs and lines painted on the ground. -No idea about big boy seats. Have fun! It's a good park, mid-tier in the CF chain in my book. Fury is really their only show-stopper (and to a lesser extent, Afterburn), though some people also swear by Intimidator.