larrygator Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 WWk on the otherhand was losing money How do you know this to be a fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlloyd Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 So we have a Huss Breakdance and a Tornado water slide that need homes. I wonder why the Breakdance wasn't added to Carowinds like the original article stated. Also a random Trioka appeared for Dorney Park. Well, in the same article, it was stated that Cedar Fair was going to Japan next. So, maybe they found a Troika in Japan? Also, maybe the Huss Break Dance will be added to Carowinds in 2018. We'll just have to wait and see! I've enjoyed the announcements so far! ***JAPAN****?????? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE RELOCATE THIS!!!!!! (Can't embed?... Idk why) I doubt that would happen, but it would be cool if Cedar Fair took one of the Ultra Twisters in Japan and moved it to one of the CF parks. Speaking of Ultra Twister, I heard that Premier Rides has Togo's Pipeline design. Can anyone confirm this? Yes, Premier Rides did have Togo's Pipeline coaster design as it was featured on their previous website. But, once they had update their website earlier this year, this design is no longer available. Canadianparkfan, in order to embed a video from YouTube, use the YouTube embed function but then delete the "s" off of https. The video should become embedded if you do that. A pipeline coaster would be truly amazing as they have tight heartline rolls and steep lift hills which would be a huge intensity factor. But, since no company manufacturers them anymore, I don't see one coming to Canada's Wonderland or any other park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILinator Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 does anyone feel that Michigans Adventure is a season or two from closing? They have the highest profit margins in the chain, and just did massive infrastrucure improvements through out the park. WWk on the otherhand was losing money ahhhh ok that makes sense then, i had no idea MA was making a profit. MiA was making a profit? WTH? Profit equals money received, minus money spent. Considering CF spends excruciatingly little on MiA, and the park does really good summertime business due to the extreme popularity of the Lake Michigan region, it's not surprising that they have the highest profit margin in the chain! No way they are going to be closed by CF, and as a matter of fact, I'd be shocked if CF ever was willing to sell them to a local wealthy buyer who'd want to invest into the park more, because they'd lose a cash cow. (There are other reasons I'd be shocked to see them do that as well, but since some enthusiasts like to close their eyes and ears at what that suggests, I'll pass on mentioning it...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbowl Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Is anyone else SUPER underwhelmed by capital expenditures throughout the chain this year? This is the first year since 2011 without a B&M (second since 2007). It doesn't seem like there will be ANY major coasters being built in the United States in 2017 outside of InvadR and Mystic Timbers (Which probably won't crack $15 mill). Are there any other parks that are building something I don't know about?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grsupercity Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Is anyone else SUPER underwhelmed by capital expenditures throughout the chain this year? This is the first year since 2011 without a B&M (second since 2007). It doesn't seem like there will be ANY major coasters being built in the United States in 2017 outside of InvadR and Mystic Timbers (Which probably won't crack $15 mill). Are there any other parks that are building something I don't know about?? Well Six Flags wont be making there annoucnments till 9-1. There could be some RMC, Premier, and S&S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbowl Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Is anyone else SUPER underwhelmed by capital expenditures throughout the chain this year? This is the first year since 2011 without a B&M (second since 2007). It doesn't seem like there will be ANY major coasters being built in the United States in 2017 outside of InvadR and Mystic Timbers (Which probably won't crack $15 mill). Are there any other parks that are building something I don't know about?? Well Six Flags wont be making there annoucnments till 9-1. There could be some RMC, Premier, and S&S Roar at SFDK closed more than a year ago - Do you really think a wooden coaster in the SF chain is getting IBox? Especially considering no other park has CA weather conditions, I think we would absolutely know (or have closing hints) if SF was IBoxing a current coaster. I suppose SF could be building a ground-up RMC... But I personally doubt it. SF hasn't built a large custom coaster (non-IBox) since Goliath in 2014 and Full Throttle in 2013. Both of those coasters were planned/teased far in advance - We all saw land clearing and city proposals. I don't see ANY hint of major land clearing to indicate a large coaster at a SF park. All I've seen is small clearings that could possibly indicate off-the-shelf, relatively easy installations (Justice league, S&S 4D). Those types of additions don't get me excited like an RMC or custom coaster would. 2017 just seems like a dud across the US parks to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILinator Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Fair warning: If you don't like ranking things, or think doing so is pointless, just ignore my post. I LOVE ranking things - pretty much anything, I will gladly try to rank - and was thinking that this might be interesting now that most of the Cedar Fair announcements are out. In terms of your own personal excitement level, as well as it being a fitting addition for the park (in your opinion at least), how would you rank the known capital improvements for the Cedar Fair parks that have been announced? Here is my list... 1) Kings Island - "Mystic Timbers" GCI Wooden Coaster 2) California's Great America - "The Patriot" Floorless conversion from Vortex 3) Valleyfair - "North Star" Sky Screamer swing ride 4) Carowinds - "County Fair" flat ride additions, and area re-theme 5) Cedar Point - "Soak City" expansion, and re-name to "Cedar Point Shores" (I'm not including the Hotel improvements in this ranking.) 6) World's of Fun - "Falcon's Flight" and "Mustang Runner" flat ride additions 7) Knott's Berry Farm - "Soak City" expansion 8) Dorney Park - Bumper Cars and Troika addition 9) Kings Dominion - Three new kiddie rides, park wi-fi, and funpix Clearly, when it comes to my personal excitement level, kiddie rides, and mundane flat rides don't do anything for me. Furthermore, neither of the flats to Dorney really enhance the park experience that much (unless you're a big fan of bumper cars), and Kings Dominion's Camp Snoopy wasn't hurting for more additions either. I'm also not a big water park guy, so the Soak City improvements are good, and in the case of Cedar Point, very needed. They just don't do much for me, personally, hence their lower ranking. I love the addition of a Huss Condor at WoF, bolstering their ranking, and ditto the Top Scan addition at Carowinds, which coupled with an attractive new area there, make for a nice capital investment! I'm also a really big fan of the sky screamer addition at Valleyfair, from the name, to the ride's placement in the park, and also the fact it's that model, and not a Windseeker! Great move, VF! Obviously, I go to amusement parks first and foremost for roller coasters, though as a family man, and a person who understands the need for parks to be well-rounded, I get that every park isn't going to get a big coaster every year. Still, when it comes to additions at parks, I'm almost always going to rate the parks that get new coasters higher than those that don't. So, KI and CGA score highly with me this year for their new capital investments, with KI head and shoulders above everybody in CF this season! I think Mystic Timbers looks like a fantastic little wooden coaster, and I can't wait to ride it next year with my kids, and also ride it at night! Plus, there's always the little matter of the shed, and what awaits inside of it... While I don't think Floorless Vortex, ie. The Patriot will even be as good as Rougarou is (which is only a middle of the pack coaster at CP), it's an improvement on the stand-up concept, and at CGA, it will likely be a top 3 ride there. So, it's a good fit, and it will be a fun coaster to ride a time or two while breaking up repeated ridings of Gold Striker and Flight Deck. So, what about everybody else? Speaking only of yourself, personally, which capital investments are you most looking forward to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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