robbalvey Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Personally, I say...GOOD!!! http://www.abcactionnews.com/stories/2005/09/050922ride.shtml ORLANDO - Disney officials rejected a request for tougher thrill-ride height restrictions proposed by the parents of a 4-year-old Pennsylvania boy who died after passing out on Epcot's "Mission: Space" ride, according to the family's attorney. Moses and Agnes Bamuwamye, of Sellersville, Pa., proposed raising the bar from 44 to 51 inches in a letter their attorney sent to Disney officials last month. Disney rejected the restrictions because the boy's death has not been conclusively linked to the ride, according to correspondence the Bamuwamyes' attorney provided to the Orlando Sentinel. "Simply to make a change on no informed basis would be false solace to those affected and of no benefit to anyone else," wrote Margaret C. Giacalone, a member of Disney's legal staff. "Further, the minimum height requirement was carefully considered, analyzed and established on the basis of a variety of factors." Daudi Bamuwamye was 2 inches taller than the simulated spaceship ride's 44-inch height requirement. The cause of the boy's June 13 death remains under investigation. "We know of no reason to conclude or infer any connection between the Mission: Space ride and the incident," Disney spokeswoman Kim Prunty said Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCTfan Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I agree that they should NOT change the height limit. The death of the child is indeed say, but is by no fault of Disney. The child met the height requirements and it was up to the better judgement of the parents to allow the child onto the ride. But I still give my props up to the Space crew, because I know it was hard to deal with over at the Living Seas since guests would keep bringing it up after the inncident. So I'm sure they heard more than enough about it the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisZer0 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 This all comes down to one thing: Parential Responsibility. What we saw in this case was a total lack on the parents part. IMHO,no right-minded parent would take a child that small on a ride that intense. I know, we'll hear the whole "Roller Coasters Pull More G" saw I heard on every other damned board and site right after this happened, yes the intensity on MS is lower than most coasters, but its for a longer duration. I think the first thought in their mind should be "Maybe we should just skip this ride until next time" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verticalzero Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I agree with "ChrisZer0", as you can not have a young child riding a coaster, the min age should be 12 atleast, and a certain height, 1.4meters. Most parents will not allow their kids to ride a large coaster when they are young. Common Sense!! My friend's daughter is 9 and she is less than 1.4m high, but she will be riding the "Pepsi Max Big One" next month. she has never been on a coaster that tall and fast, how is she going to react when 1/2 way up the lift hill. She may Panic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursemelis374 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I too am glad to hear this. Maybe Disney is finally getting some cajones and not letting people push them around! Hopefully other themeparks will follow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I am a parent, and I let my son on coasters. He is 46 inches tall at 4 years old. He also is around 60 pounds. He is not small by any means. He has only been on 2 coasters in his life, and both were kiddie coasters. Honestly, I wouldn't put him on something I knew he couldn't ride. If it is a new thing, I make sure I ride it before he does. He get's very over-stimulated at many things, but I know he can handle it. He has been on a set of flyers and a tilt-a-whirl. The one at Striker's was running on insane mode, and my kid laughed the entire time. I would put him on Mission: Space if I rode it first, and knew what was going to happen. I agree with Disney. They are the place for families to come and enjoy rides of all kinds. If the parent had rode it before, and said it was ok, why not. It may not have been the parents fault. Maybe the boy had a pre-exsisting condition. Nothing was determined. Disney tests their rides extensively and made the decision that 44 inches was ok to ride. Some kids can handle that others can't. Things happen for a reason. God needed that little boy for something else. It just happened on a Disney property. I understand people were pissed about what happened and immediately blamed the parents. But ultimately, their boy died, and yet people were quick to place blame. I think it is wrong. The parent at least didn't put the kid on by himself. They rode with him, and there was no way inside to push an e-stop. To get him off before any serious would have happened. I hope things can work themselves back to the way it was before. I hope all is well with anyone that rides that. Katie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelizeIt Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 What a typical Scumbag Attorney we have here! Is this Attorney an Expert in Ride design? No! Does this Attorney have a Degree in Engineering? No! Is this Attorney at all interested in the safety of the riders? No! But the Attorney would like to be able to say in court that Disney realizing their "Mistake" has now raised the height requirements to 51 inches! Millions of people have been on Mission Space without incident. What happened to this child is traggic. But, the Attorney in this case is ONLY concerned about his 30 to 40% contingency fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verticalzero Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Hey "CoastinKatie" not being rude to you, but some advice: Your son is a bit big for his age, do you give him "Green Salad and veg" with his meal or just mainly eat fast food. When he gets older and bigger he may not be able to fit in the coaster seats and enjoy the rides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Hey "CoastinKatie" not being rude to you, but some advice: Your son is a bit big for his age, do you give him "Green Salad and veg" with his meal or just mainly eat fast food. When he gets older and bigger he may not be able to fit in the coaster seats and enjoy the rides. Omg that was rude. Completely rude. My son sees his doctor and is at 100% curve for his weight and height. And for your information. His father is 6'3 and I am 5'6. We are both tall. And Matthew is not fat by any means. So you watch your typing when it comes to my son. If you need to say something like that about a child again, take it to a private message or email. IT doesn't belong on a message board. And if my son was overweight his doctor would have said so. My son eats fruit and vegetables, as well as being on a dairy free diet. Thank you very much for telling me how to raise my kid. Katie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingcoasterfreak Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 excuse me. but when i was 4 i was 75lbs. when i was 10. i was 200lbs. when i was 18 i was 220lbs. and i'm still 220lbs now. I can ride coasters just fine. You don't know the full background on her kid either. So just some food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowfanman Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Are those mouse-hand gloves they are wearing? Hell no, they are boxing gloves! Fight, fight, fight! Well, I personally think that Disney's statement is very well worded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verticalzero Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 "CoastinKatie" I am sorry I wrote that about your son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verticalzero Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 "Flyingcoasterfreak" Just out of intrest what's 220lbs in Stone, as i'm 34 and weigh 11.5/12 stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Johnson Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 As some mentioned before Mission Space may have less Gs the most roller coasters, but the duration is the big diffrence on this ride. I have ridden Mission Space probably 50+ times now and it still is quite thrilling to me. There are all sorts of warning signs and annoucements leading up to the ride so it really is the parent's responsibility in the choice concerning weather or not thier kid gets on the ride. I am glad Disney is not going to change the height limit for something that was not their fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishyBrewer Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Hey "CoastinKatie" not being rude to you, but some advice: Your son is a bit big for his age, do you give him "Green Salad and veg" with his meal or just mainly eat fast food. When he gets older and bigger he may not be able to fit in the coaster seats and enjoy the rides. WTF DUDE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemmy Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 To break away from the flaming - anyone remember when Mission: SPACE had warnings for loud noises, when the loudest noise was maybe one-fifth the sound of the breaking glass on RotM at USF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disneygurlz2s Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I have not ridden MS, and honestly, don't know if I would just because I tend to be the kind of person who likes to "see" a ride in action before I decide to ride it. I am guessing by the descriptions I have heard that it is a tricked-out version of a Gravitron or something?? Considering my daughter rode a Gravitron with a 36" height requirement a week ago at our Church festival, I would be curious to compare. Which brings me to a good question though..... HEIGHT requirements... haven't those always been based on what size body would best sit safely in a ride vehicle?? What does a height requirement really have to do with the force or velocity of a ride? How do ride manufacturers, inspectors, etc decide how those forces effect a person and what does height have to do with it? Shari "just curious" Shoufler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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