robbalvey Posted June 1, 2011 Author Posted June 1, 2011 Is this right? Well there isn't a B&M flyer in NoLimits at last recollection, so can one assume that this is a Vekoma flyer only contest?
djbrcace1234 Posted June 1, 2011 Posted June 1, 2011 Yeah, it is. Most people still use the Vekoma flyer and make bm inspired layouts, despite the limitations. I just say Vekoma flyer then.
mcjaco Posted June 1, 2011 Posted June 1, 2011 If I didn't put that in, they'd be asking if it could B&M inspired. There's no winning with some of these kids.
robbalvey Posted June 7, 2011 Author Posted June 7, 2011 DId we really only get one entry for the track of the week? Can we please, PLEASE try something for next week that is a very "common" ride to build in No Limits? Just like a woodie, Intamin Hyper, or something that everyone likes and is familiar with?
QueerRudie Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 Let's go cheap and easy... Woodie. Any. That way people lose the excuse for 'supports' take too long...
mcjaco Posted June 7, 2011 Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) Actually we had three. Two were inverts. I had to DQ them. This week it's a woodie. EDIT: I'll post the winner to the FP tomorrow morning, as we've hada ton of stuff up. It'll be a dual post. Winner/Next contest type thing. Edited June 7, 2011 by mcjaco
QueerRudie Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Something's fishy here, I think- but I'm not quite sure just how it could be proven. I was 'checking up' on things in the Exchange, and this transaction sort of caught my eye a bit- for obvious reasons. Thoughts? atlcoasternut 66.190.86.243 June 9, 2011, 10:47 pm Update rank (5) on Track 2201 atlcoasternut 66.190.86.243 June 9, 2011, 10:46 pm Rank (5) on Track 2201 atlcoasternut 66.190.86.243 June 9, 2011, 10:46 pm User Login coasterfreak80 71.236.3.134 June 9, 2011, 10:15 pm Upload Track 2201 coasterfreak80 71.236.3.134
A.J. Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Sorry, the fishy smell was what I had for dinner last night. I generously gave his track a three - it was very smooth and I liked the layout, but there were too many clearance issues.
robbalvey Posted June 10, 2011 Author Posted June 10, 2011 I'm not really a math person, so I don't have the answer to this...but hear me out... Is there some formula that we should use when determining a winner that includes that amount of votes they have received? As it works now, someone who submits a track early, is actually penalized by having more votes, and the potential for a lower average score, where someone who submits a track at the last minute, gets one vote of 5 stars, could become the winner. Any thoughts?
QueerRudie Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 I'll start working on that today; there's something VERY close to that in Yield Management that's akin to that. Give me a few hours- R.D.
mcjaco Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Any thoughts? On the contest? Or just my thoughts in general? As for the contest, I think it stinks. Maybe weigh the early entries more heavily? Can we alogarithm for the Coaster Poll?
QueerRudie Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 OK: Here's a prototype for 'weighting averages' for the ToTW contest. YOU NEED EXCEL FOR THIS! This is a simple 'starter' equasion set based upon the freqency of direct yield equasion used for pricing airplane seats (Yes, it's why you pay 2500.00 for a walkup ticket and less than 99.00 for a 3 week in advance purchase ticket). This one is modififed a bit to fit our needs here for the ToTW contest. How to use it: Open up excel, and read across: The column headings are "Day Uploaded" "Number of Votes" "Average Votes" And "weighted Average" Pick the day of the week the track was uploaded (Say, Day 6 (Wednsday) and then enter what the exchange says (Average score, 2.5 stars) and Number of votes (6). The 'weighted average score pops up on the end- with a bit of a kicker- the earlier on you vote, the higher the overall score- thus, weighting it in favor of people uploading earlier- and thus increasing the score. This is just a TEST MODEL, however- I've got a numbers person on it to do a 'penalty/bonus' equaison that will work better in the future. R.D. ToTW worksheet 1.0.xlsx
A.J. Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 This seems a little out-of-place as well - Basil Marceaux 24.252.242.233 June 10, 2011, 6:56 pm Update rank (4) on Track 2196 Basil Marceaux 24.252.242.233 June 10, 2011, 6:56 pm Update rank (0.5) on Track 2196 Basil Marceaux 24.252.242.233 June 10, 2011, 6:56 pm Update rank (4) on Track 2196 Basil Marceaux 24.252.242.233 June 10, 2011, 6:56 pm Update rank (4.5) on Track 2196 Basil Marceaux 24.252.242.233 June 10, 2011, 6:55 pm Rank (2.5) on Track 2199 Basil Marceaux 24.252.242.233 June 10, 2011, 6:55 pm Update rank (4.5) on Track 2196 Basil Marceaux 24.252.242.233 June 10, 2011, 6:55 pm Update rank (5) on Track 2196 Basil Marceaux 24.252.242.233 June 10, 2011, 6:55 pm Update rank (4.5) on Track 2196 Basil Marceaux 24.252.242.233 June 10, 2011, 6:55 pm Download Track 2196 Basil Marceaux 24.252.242.233 June 10, 2011, 6:55 pm Rank (4.5) on Track 2196 Basil Marceaux 24.252.242.233 June 10, 2011, 6:55 pm User Login This user seemed to want Timberliner (#2196, which is essentially an imported and smoothed Bigger Woodchip from RCT1) to win so much that he deliberately voted Lakeshore Flyer (#2199, my own track) down. I understand I'm a whiney boy defending my own track, but this seems a little suspicious. I've never seen a ranking changed so much in so little time.
mcjaco Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 It is suspiscious. And I'm DQing it. Here's why: I'll banning the Basil account for good. BigDipper is DQ'ed, and banned a week.
A.J. Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 Should all ratings from Big Dipper and friends be deleted from the logs?
mcjaco Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 I want it up. If any one asks, we can point it out. No more BS from these kids.
QueerRudie Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) ToTW 'points' generator v.1.01 (Or how I learned to stop worrying and love the functional equasion of advance requirements) OK: Here it is: After some tinkering and some experimenting, version 1.01a is now ready to be used. It's simple: I think we're ready for a 'dry run' of the spreadsheet with today's contest- we can then take a look at how close it plays out to what's desired. Instructions are the same- but I think it will make it easier for us to get an accurate 'point-count' in the future. I'm already working on V.1.02 and V2.0 for the future- stay tuned. R.D. ToTW worksheet 1.01A.xlsx Here it is- have fun... Edited June 13, 2011 by QueerRudie
robbalvey Posted June 13, 2011 Author Posted June 13, 2011 So did we really get in 9 entries this week? That's not too bad....
A.J. Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 (edited) Running the results through the spreadsheet gave me the following - Gryphon by coastertroy - 7 points Permanent Waves by Blatch - 10 points Wolverine by lankanboy101 - 12 points Furius Canis by gerstlauer1 - 9 points CBC by coasterfreak80 - 70 points Rush by RCT-Maker - 18 points Lakeshore Flyer by A.J. - 60.75 points Timberliner by BigDipper_80 - 40.5 points Acre Wood by lankanboy101 - 37.5 points Second place? I'm okay with it. At least riders' heads stay intact on my ride, nyah. Edited June 14, 2011 by A.J.
robbalvey Posted June 14, 2011 Author Posted June 14, 2011 What's the track of the week for next week - do we want to keep it No Limits since we have an RCT challenge going on at the same time?
robbalvey Posted June 14, 2011 Author Posted June 14, 2011 Is there something more "common" we can do to keep the momentum going? Like is there a B&M invert in No Limits?
QueerRudie Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 Is there something more "common" we can do to keep the momentum going? Like is there a B&M invert in No Limits? B&M Sitdown looping for me- although inverted works out well, too. Running the results through the spreadsheet gave me the following - Gryphon by coastertroy - 7 points Permanent Waves by Blatch - 10 points Wolverine by lankanboy101 - 12 points Furius Canis by gerstlauer1 - 9 points CBC by coasterfreak80 - 70 points Rush by RCT-Maker - 18 points Lakeshore Flyer by A.J. - 60.75 points Timberliner by BigDipper_80 - 40.5 points Acre Wood by lankanboy101 - 37.5 points Second place? I'm okay with it. At least riders' heads stay intact on my ride, nyah. How did you like it? I'm looking for ideas for the next update for it already; I've got a few ideas, but I'd like feedback on how you liked it's design. Also, I'd run the numbers tommorow morning, just to be on the safe side- I just found the last competitior in the bin a few minutes ago (On a different schedule right now due to the Paris Air Show). (And yes, your ride DOES have that special feel to it that I really liked, A.J. The CBC clone knocked my head off- and got 'demerit' points when I ranked it.) As for the new 'points' system for the ToTW contest: Perhaps we should explain that we're changing up the system officially starting tommorow- and explain the earlier you get your park in, the better it is for a potential 'win' in the challenge. Any thoughts about this?
robbalvey Posted June 14, 2011 Author Posted June 14, 2011 yeah, let's do B&M Sitdown looping - it's common, people love it, and they probably already have tons of tracks they've already created that they can submit.
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