WestCoasterKing

Yes, they are warehouses that are used for haunt mazes. They could easily build new "warehouses" for haunt mazes. I couldn't sleep last night so I figured out some calculations just for fun. -The current theme park is 41.5 acres (approximately). This is just the park itself and does not including areas outside the park gates. -The main backstage area to the south of Ghost Town is 11 acres. -The south west parking lot (at the corner of Crescent and Western) is 10 acres. -The hotel is 6 acres. -The south east parking lot (at the corner of Crescent and Beach) is 5.5 acres. -The Marketplace parking lot is 2 acres. -The area where TGIFridays and the sports shop are located is 1.5 acres. -The west overflow lot is 11 acres. -The north overflow lot is 8 acres. If I were in charge of planning (just thinking as a homer and not accounting for cost), this is what I would do. -Remove Grand from the underpass turnoff to Crescent. -Raze the TGIFridays and the two adjacent shops south and make that the new Marketplace/CDR parking lot. -Construct a five story parking structure on the main parking lot next to Soak City/Independence Hall -Raze the current hotel and build a new resort across the street at the corner of Beach and Crescent. -Move the backstage areas and park offices to the west overflow lot. -That would open up 29 acres for expansion to the south.

^ That track doesn't look blue to me. It looks more teal or aqua. By the way, this is what is backstage at Knott's, in case you were curious. *Based on what my friend told me.

Space Mountain, Matterhorn Bobsleds and Big Thunder Mountain Railroad at DLP. Pony Express (hate the ride itself) and Jaguar! at KBF

^ Yes, I've long thought about doing exactly that, but in order to adequately replace the parking lots they would need at minimum a five story parking garage. Such a project would cost $50 million easy. Constructing new backstage buildings is probably another $20-30 million. Then in order to really best utilize the space to the south they should construct a new hotel elsewhere on the property and that would likely be another $50 million. So basically unless they can come up with $150-200 million they are confined to the current park space.

I've actually had a similar idea before. I know it would be expensive but being strapped for space Knott's has basically two options when it comes to improving their portfolio: Tearing out something old and building something new or sprucing up something into old into something new. Now Knott's and Cedar Fair have already done the later with Mine Ride and Log Ride so why not with Bigfoot? Here's my idea. Construct a show building disguised as a mountain over part of the ride and queue. Add theming elements such as animatronics, lights and sounds. Part of the rapids should even be in complete darkness. Imagine the Haunt overlay they could do with this. I'm going to go draw up a diagram now.

^ Interesting

^ YES! Thank you.

I remember seeing footage of a powered single rail coaster concept awhile back, but I can't remember who was designing it. I've searched and can't find any videos or articles or nothing. Does anybody else remember this?

If they could get everything between Harbor, Katella and I-5 that would be about 156 acres. I could see them incorporating the existing the Anaheim Garden Walk into a eastern Downtown Disney and remember they have a huge 90 acre parking lot south of Katella and east of Harbor as well. I think they call it the Toy Story Lot. Granted that is probably twenty years or more down the line if ever. But I've heard rumors that Disney wants all of that. They also want the final piece of land on the northwest corner of Harbor and Katella right behind Cars Land and the future Marvel Land.. By the way I wonder if they would ever close off Harbor if that third park were to ever happen.

I have no doubt Disney would love to have all that real estate east of Harbor.

I know that all those independent hotels pull in a lot of dough. That's why the tiny hotel Disney bought was $32 million even though it was a dump. But I wonder how much the resort will hurt them? I mean the current hotels don't seem to effect them much.

Road wheels?

Disney still has a huge 90 acre overflow parking lot southeast of the park off of Harbor and Katella and they have shuttles which disembark on the east side. The east side also where other buses and personal vehicles can drop off passengers. Or at least they used to. Plus all of people staying at the non-Disney hotels access the park in that side.

So according to this they will relocate the Downtown Disney parking lot south of Paradise Pier. I assume that means DTD visitors will have to walk through the resort to reach DTD. Disney's new hotel plan

By "third gate" I assume you mean a third park? What is this gondola you're speaking of?

Uh, no. Just don't see that happening. At all.

True but I suspect Knott's invested money on several decent families coasters in recent years so they remove Jaguar and people would be okay with it.

Can't say I agree. As much as I'd love to see jaguar get replaced by something better, Knott's won't get rid of it anytime soon. It's very reliable, has low maintenance costs, has great capacity, and is one of the most popular coasters in the park. If anything Knotts would probably take out Bigfoot Rapids or Xcelerator before Jaguar. Xcelerator and Bigfoot are both far more popular than Jaguar.

I think any ground up RMC would take a big chunk of land and if they can swing that kind of project I'd rather they put in a giga hyper. Unless they can somehow get RMC to design a giga woodie hybrid. Or...RMC Raptor/T-Rex design I'll take a T-Rex. Not a Raptor. Knott's is just too busy a park to have such a low capacity ride. I would really love them to replace to Jaguar with a better ride but keep the temple. Maybe a custom T-Rex?

I think any ground up RMC would take a big chunk of land and if they can swing that kind of project I'd rather they put in a giga hyper. Unless they can somehow get RMC to design a giga woodie hybrid.

Saw this photo of HangTime footings over on Facebook (all rights to the owner). Does anybody know what's up with the spiral hole down the center of each concrete footing? Photo courtesy of Jennifer Felton. Originally posted on Knott's Network Forums.

Saw this on Facebook. HangTime track sitting over by the old fire station. All rights to the owner. By the way, my god the framing for the new fire station in the background is huge! Photo courtesy of Jennifer Felton. Originally posted on Knott's Network Forums.

I don't necessarily think it will be "a long, long time" before Knott's gets another coaster. Since taking over Knott's in 1997 Cedar Fair has added 7 roller coasters in 21 years (counting HangTime in 2018). 4 of those coasters are considered major attractions. GhostRider, Xcelerator, Silver Bullet and HangTime. There was four years between GhostRider and Xcelerator but then only two years between Xcelerator and Silver Bullet. Then there was 14 years between Silver Bullet and HangTime! But during those 14 years they still added three smaller family coasters in 2007, 2008 and 2013. I think we could see another coaster by 2020 and I wouldn't be surprised if it replaced Coast Rider. Ever since they installed the shin guards everyone just hates that ride. I do however agree that the next major coaster won't come for at least another decade (unless Monty and/or Xcelerator completely bite the dust in the next few years) and that coaster will replace Jaguar. (Please keep the temple). But I actually see more non-coaster related additions in the coming years. I think Iron Reef will get a makeover of some sort and Mystery Lodge will be upgraded to some type of show along the lines of Mass Effect at CGA, but western themed. And of course I see more flats. I also wouldn't be surprised if they replaced Timberline Twister. Now I can see some you shaking your heads because I didn't include Windjammer in the timeline. That is because even though it opened in 1997, it was actually a Knott's family project, not Cedar Fair.

Cedar fair bought the park the year MIA was supposed to build a Morgan Hyper. The fear was that if they were going to continue with massive growth that people from Michigan would start going to MIA instead of Cedar Point. Cedar Point pulls massive amounts of people from Lansing, Gr, and even west Michigan. If Michigan had a closer less expensive park why would people drive 6 hours to Cedar Point or Six Flags great America Why do I drive Silverwood instead Wild Waves? Aftershock?

^ I think that's the point and disproves that MiA is a threat.