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Hey that's one of my favorite movies. I got my Rob Zombie movies switched around; Rabbit in Red is from Halloween. Which I love as well. Most of it anyway. So this Super Loop Kentucky Kingdom is getting, is it the same model all the Six Flags have been buying up? Is it the larger Larson Loop? I thought there was a huge one they offered, with more seating. I know they had a winged model as well.

^House of 1,000 corpses fan? Like your screen name! Years ago, I do remember waiting in long lines for Thunder Run. It was so nice and smooth in 1992! The last time I rode it (on a very unfortunate day in 2007), the entire side padding on my friends' side of the car was completely gone. Bolts and screws were loose all over or missing, and my lap bar popped up during the ride. I'm glad it's in much better shape now!

No one ever designed transfer track for it in the first place. Lot of structural work to do for a ride that is currently not the big draw. Maybe down the line? Both Raven and Legend have had 2nd trains added, plus storage. If they need it, I hope they do it.

Damn, you're good Thank you. Not exactly rocket science, but I remember that deserted Calypso at Fun Spot the minute I saw that on the video. Turns out this Calypso was originally at LeSourdsville Lake/Americana. That time I rode Screechin' Eagle 64 times in one day Yes, please!

^Very cool. I hope they decide to put it up for operation! I love those old rides. Another clue from the video... A map showing where the Calypso ran in 1972 (Coney Island, Cincinnati), then up to Fun Spot, then Holiday World in 2017. They also mention a "the names," perhaps they will have a naming contest for the new ride.

Did anyone catch the facebook live feed? Is this a Calypso car? Could Holiday World be adding a classic flat ride!? And here is a Calypso at Fun Spot (Angola, IN) I took last January. Hope I'm not ruining any surprises... A classic Calypso would definitely be a nice addition!

^I do believe Will's grandfather wanted a St. Patrick's Day section with a pub... I don't see the park going with alcohol though. But who knows; I also didn't see them with a B&M coaster and Thunderbird is stellar!

I haven't been to the park since it's re-opened. There were many reports of poor (Six Flags like?) operations, one train ops, etc., is that all true?

^Hey, those are good too! Much better than Intamin and S&S. I wonder how they would theme it?

If they ever get a Valentine's Day section of the park, a brand new one of these would be right at home! Heart Flip! Ain't it purty!

So much crazier. I swear it almost goes upside down Funny you would say that! Years ago, probably around 1987 (!!!) at a carnival in a Chicago suburb, they had a super frightening Paratrooper. It was positioned nearly hanging over a road. It went SO FAST I think we were going past 90 degrees. Then it went backwards. I've never seen anything like it since! Ah, the 80s. Fun Spot looks like such a great place, I gotta get out there. And they will have a sky ride!? Yes please!

Since we're talking about lifts, I'll give another opinion from a "lift hill enthusiast/geek" POV. I like lifts that change speed; Demon at SF Great America does this thing near the top for the past 3 or so years, it almost seems like the train is going to fall backwards, then just slows down. They even worked the VR into that quirk! The Gargoyles land on your helicopter when that slight jerk occurs (the VR is ok, but I love my plain old Demon). It makes the lift seem like it's got a mind of it's own. The Beast used to change speed on both lifts for blocking purposes, does it still do that?

Looks photoshopped to me. I can see artifacts and stuff... smile

^I was just trying to be funny.

In a wooden-tracked coaster, the top 2 layers of wood are made of wood... not a rectangular steel tube filled with concrete composite material. Sure, it seems that the bulk of the track on Goliath is wood, but it's probably provides less than half of the load. Topper track is great, and is the very definition of hybrid track in my book. Wood coaster track has steel running plates, but that's much MUCH less steel than on topper track. Note the motivation behind what Six Flags (and RMC, consequently) calls wood and hybrid is to get more records. They wanted to have the "longest hybrid coaster" in Twisted Colossus (Isn't Ultimate a much longer ride?) and fastest "wooden coaster" in Goliath. That's just fine, but know where the motivation came from... to change a 30 year industry convention. Cedar Point never EVER referred to Gemini as a hybrid; it was always a steel coaster. As others noted, it doesn't matter and they are fun rides... but you would have to be drinking a lot of corporate kool-aid to not notice that change in the last few years. Remember, Six Flags calls Great America "the cleanest theme park in the world," and their Hurricane Harbor the "best waterpark in the country." Just adding my 2 cents. Plenty of my friends disagree with me, but we respect each others opinions. It would be lame if we all agreed 100% . It doesn't matter at the end of the day. We are coaster and park nerds, it's ok to debate this stuff respectfully.

And yet... Well, I haven't followed that dead horse here on TPR, but I was assuming it happened here too like on the rest of the internet. I'm not sure what the consensus is on here. It's ok to disagree, I just like to hear other opinions.

Like Mean Streak? That was too easy. It was just a matter of time.

Fixed that for ya. Even if you count topper track as wooden (which I don't, I know I know... dead horse), half the structure is still held up by steel.

A whole bunch! But after a few rides, the novelty of (fill in the blank record) wears off and I'm stuck with same old favorites. Thunderbolt, Legend, Voyage, Mind Bender... Magnum, and a few others.

^Yes, most of this summer it was running 3. In fact, except for last summer (one of the trains was not even seen), Demon has almost always ran 3 trains on busy days. Same with Whizzer. The thing is, trains always stack. I guess they go for the hope that there will be an occasional train that gets out on time. Gotta give em credit for trying! (Remembering the days when Whizzer ran 4 to 5 trains, no seat belts, no air gates, just get in and go! For Demon, as soon as a train hit the first loop, the next train would be peeking out of the lift rocks on it's way up. Since this is the Magic Mountain thread, didn't Revolution have the ability to have 2 trains in the station and unload the back one? Whizzer did that way back...)

Hey, don't knock em. Those carnival flats can be some damn good rides! EDIT -- Ew, except Larson Loops and fireball rides.

I replied to you a few posts back, sorry if my post made it seem like I was calling you out... I sure didn't mean it that way. Sometimes on the forums, it's hard to have much discussion about making suggestions to a park; immediately people accuse you of telling the park what to do, and how they don't need us. My point is that it doesn't have to be at either extreme. Same thing goes for discussions about forces; I've made comments about something, then right away I get yelled at "leave it to the engineers," and a bunch of lame stuff like that. Black and white thinking, unfortunately, is a way of our society. But it doesn't have to be that way. Especially on a theme park forum. It's not even creative replies, it's knee-jerk and super-generic stuff. I hope some of that makes sense. I would say that is standard operations at any Six Flags park. My home park, SF Great America (which I think is the best run and most well-rounded park in the chain), it's like that too. Six Flags operations are so all-over the place, so inconsistent (except for being consistently bad)... it's not necessarily a good thing to have super cheap season passes, but notice how they try to roll it that way. You pay with your time and patience through horrible operations (on every level and in every department). It's hard to believe they don't, isn't it!? This past summer, people were getting off every single Demon train pissed off.. like, not just a little huffy, but pissed. They were trying this thing where they have 2 VR trains, and one non-VR trains... but why would you have 2 VR trains, which take 5 to 10 minutes to load, while the other 2 trains are stacked with guests? They can't go anywhere. They are locked under those harnesses. It took them way too long, but they not only took a cue from CP with reservations, but they started only doing VR after 6pm. So regular Demon wouldn't be all cramped up during the day. Seemed to work much better. Personally, I think they should do VR in the first 6 hours of the day, then switch over to regular... but at least they tried something different. I wish Six Flags would change the way they operate their parks. It's really pathetic sometimes. There has to be something they can do. I would happily pay 3x the price for a season pass for good operations. My SF pass this year was like $67 and my CF pass was around $190. And it shows in the service.

You sure about that? Whizzer here at Great America has gotten much MUCH more popular over the last few years. People really appreciate a family coaster But then we probably have more families at Great America. If they promoted it right, I think it would be a big hit.

Go Bananas - does that count? Santa's Villiage SF Great America

I always figured if they had more ball & socket joints at the track/structure connection, they would be much smoother. Hinges of any kind would be nice. Look how silky smooth most Schwarzkopfs are. And Giavanola. Even super-sturdy Intamin rides (Millennium Force and Maverick come to mind) have a distinctive *grind* to them. Bhahahaha!!! Thank you for that.