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Also Via Reddit Wolverine Wildcat got a partial GCI titan retract!?

Busch Garden’s and Sea World’s social media presence is insane, they posted that quick lol. I’ve also had BGT like serval of my tweets I don’t think I’ve ever had any other park do that once.

Yeah that storm was crazy, we were in line for flight of fear just hanging out when the it went through, and it looked and sounded like the park got struck three or four times in a row lol. One looked like it hit Windseeker and everyone gasped at the same time. Between my Orlando trip and yesterday my luck with weather has been horrible this year, hopefully it gets better soon. I haven’t had a full day of coasters yet this year.

So today we did a bit of a stupid maneuver, we planned an impromptu day trip to CP, I wanted to go to Kings Island, but the weather in Sandusky looked good and the weather around Cincinnati looked horrendous all day. Mistake one for both parks: relying on any weather app or terrible meteorological models. Anyway in Toledo (came from Michigan) I had a feeling to just turn on 75 and go to KI, but didn’t follow it. Get to Cedar Point and notice the weather at KI got significantly better. The weather at Cedar Point? Significantly worse. Rode SV, joked about leaving and going to KI (didn’t because I said it was such a stupid idea). Got lunch (took like an hour mind to get lunch, CP was pretty busy lol), got in line for dragster because the weather looked fine, thirty minutes in it started to rain, dragster closed (didn’t open again until like 7 or 8 I believe). Forecast changed to heavy rain and severe storms for around three hours. With that knowledge, the idiot in us left Cedar Point at 2 PM, and drove to KI. I won’t say if it was worth it or not, still neutral on it, but we drove the wild route you have to take to get there, ended up getting stopped at two railroad crossings, drove through a severe storm or two, a road about to wash out, and at a little after 6 arrived at KI. Anddddd, the storms were back in the forecast. Lol. Rode flight of fear (honestly liked it I won’t lie), then a wicked lightning storm hit and even that closed. Lasted about 45 minutes. By the time stuff opened it was 8. One of the most insane 30-45 minutes of coasters followed. Rode flight of fear again, rode Mystic Timber’s, Diamondback, Beast, Stunt Coaster (then rain came and ruined Orion and Banshee, with how short the lines were we probably could’ve done all of that by 9-9:10 at the brisk speed walk we were taking). I honestly had fun, it was/would’ve been my third trip to cedar point this year, so I wasn’t expecting an amazing trip, saw a lot of interesting places in Ohio I’ll probably never see again, and (I forgot to mention this, I’ve never been to Kings Island) got a lot of new credits at the same time (If gas or money spent was a concern for anyone reading this, the car we took is a hybrid and got around 40 MPG the entire time, spent roughly 35 dollars on gas round trip). Apparently Cedar Point cleared out too, and the rain did last until latish, and from what we saw most of the rides at Cedar Point were closed for nearly the entire drive to Kings Island (yes, even Gemini, Corkscrew and Cedar Creek apparently) I’ll be honest, I had low expectations for The Beast, but I loved it, Mystic Timber’s was also significantly better than I thought it was going to be, but I also haven’t ridden a good wooden coaster in years. Diamondback was okay, I liked it but the part of the ride after the MCBR felt like it has a lot of missed opportunity, I definitely prefer Mako or Behemoth overall. Stunt coaster has a weird place in my heart, I honestly also love it. In the end I’ll never let myself do this again, but it was a fun experience and something my friends and I have always joked about doing. I’ll also plan a KI exclusive trip so that I can ride Orion and Banshee, I want to see what all the commotion is about the vest restraints on an invert and what I think about Orion.

Anyone have bad experiences with the virtual lines? Today was crazy busy and the virtual line was a nightmare. I tried to get Hagrid’s virtual line passes at 2 and 4 and only got into the party size page once, and by then they were out. I guess it’ll be yet another year to ride that one. Velocicoaster also had over a 90 minute wait (also at 120 minutes for a while) so didn’t get to try that either. Got just about everything else but by the time we were by Jurassic park there was a storm coming, so it wasn’t worth it. Overall lesson learned, avoid Orlando Saturday crowds, and when the parks open at 8, use all that time.

Gotcha, honestly I’ve seen some complaints lately about the parks operations but even with a much worse than average daily rainstorm had a good time. Kraken closed at 5, but I assume that was employment related and they get a pass for that right now. Had 3 rides on everything else otherwise. Honestly I think the new dolphin show is a downgrade. Also got my first ride on Infinity Falls and it was a lot better than I expected.

Does anyone know what’s going with Antarctica? We just went on it to avoid the rain and it was just the walk-thru part. I like seeing the penguins, but I also kinda like the ride even if it’s a little lame. Anyway today has been nice but has turned into a super rainy day, just hanging out waiting for the storm to pass. Ice breaker looks cool too, I hope they open it soon!

“On the banks of the red cedar...” *pauses to brace for the trick track even though it’s been gone for years* “man I’m glad the trick track is gone” Whenever I’m bored in line I always sing the MSU fight song, and I love how the rivalries work out at Cedar Point, in a way there is almost a three way mutual hatred. Also love both of your guys’ takes, and it reminds me I really need to make it out to Carowinds for Fury. Something about Yukon Strikes works more for me then Valravn, but honestly the new restraints are just way too tight (definitely a broken record on this one). I’m a pretty small person and it feels like it crushes me, also I don’t know what’s going on with Gatekeeper but I feel like the restraints got worse, I was barely able to ride it this year. I think it’s partly just psychological but I get back to the station guppy breathing every time. But MF this year? Absolutely been magical. I was on the last two rides of the day one of my visits and it blew my mind, I don’t know why.

Does anyone know why Corkscrew is closed? It’s been closed all day (at least every time I’ve checked) and when we went of Windseeker it was stuck at the base of the lift. Also the park is pretty dead for any day in July, maybe the tropical system scared everyone off because I’ve never seen it like this on a weekday in July. All rides have had sub 60 minutes wait times with most not running all trains, and Raptor and Rougarou only had one.

I mean even if there are electronic circuits don’t like much influx in voltage and controlling where thousands of volts goes can be iffy at best. (Not that I don’t questions RMC’s engineering especially considering the problems their rides have had though.) Either way hope it opens soon.

Went to Cedar Point yesterday and had a great day! Very short lines, rain held off, everything was open for most of the day and running pretty good ops for so early in the season. I also tried out the Ride Force app from this thread and got some decent result. (From what I've seen the app has potential but isn't flawless yet) anyway starting from the top: I just like how you see the pre-lift airtime hills! (Measured from the on-ride pocket) I got a better sample from my watch but the I accidentally deleted it, the G's are pretty sustained for Maverick. Just thought this graph turned out sick hah. The app sometimes records too much (including me getting off which led to the weird airtime calculation) Same as gemini but hey its pretty cool seeing the the G's for the Tophat! Looks like a weaker Raptor tbh HOLY Gs Honestly pretty good airtime You know what? Valravn has some nice airtime too, shame the new B&M restraints are so restrictive... Magnum and Corkscrew both can't be opened because they crash every time. Now for the issues: I wasn't running the phone app for Millennium, and the Watch app crashed after I recorded it on there, Iron Dragon and Cedar Creek weren't strong enough to trigger the phone app (hah) and the location/jostling of the rides led to some weird results, especially on my watch. (It read +13Gs after Raptor before it crashed). Hope you guys enjoy these results as much as I do. (Also i wish there were spoilers to cut down on the spaminess of the pics.)

Two years ago I downloaded this app called sensor play because it can measure G's as well and one issue is its a pain to define G's based on which direction the phone is facing, which produced some weird results. Its entirely possibly he figured out a good way to keep track of this and if that's the case it should be pretty accurate. I'm going to CP tomorrow and I'll analyze the app myself and see if I notice anything that hints at it's accuracy. EDIT: As long as your phone or watch doesn't jostle too much it should actually be pretty accurate. It sounds like it calibrates based on the assumption that it figures out which direction is up in relation to the phone, and as long as the phone doesn't move too much it should be pretty accurate.

I've spent quite a large amount of time analyzing the park and I can say without a doubt the building is still there, you can see a slight change in tone in the green color from the angle of the roof changing, as well as if you look close enough you can see the fences and pillars that make the front deck. The moss on top is just very vibrant and thick this year I suppose. Btw in case anyone is wondering why I knew this, that building was one of the first I made for my recreation of Cedar Point in Planet Coaster over here.

At first I found it far too massive to take on but by slowing working on little bits at a time it's slowly seeming very doable, just tedious. And thanks! Also I just took this screenshot from Maverick's WIP station during golden hour, and its bringing me back to my favorite scene from the point. There is still detail to be added but this is 100% my favorite view from the point Unfortunately you can't edit the background to be water and in order to fit the top half of the park I couldn't line up the cardinal directions, but it is close enough.

Thanks! I also have a small update, I've gotten a break in my busy college life to put some work in. Recently I finished the lift and airtime hill custom supports for Millennium Force, as well as put more work into the unload station and queue. This required a small re-profile from before the final airtime hill to the end of the final over bank. This also made me notice the coaster's were in the wrong place, so I saved everything and have begun realigning them. Since then I started working on Rougarou and Maverick's stations. Here are some screenshots: Notice the wide bottom, and general large supports along the drop Another angle Oh my I love this The unloading/loading station before I re-profiled the the last bit The basis of Rougarou's station! Getting the sizes for this station is incredibly hard, there aren't many pictures of it A further point of view Another picture of the loading/unloading stations after the re-profile From the side of the train (note the train tracks are gone due to having the wrong layout) The new overbank I added the truss supports to these airtime hills, they still need a bit of work though Trying to keep the level of detail up with this one Honestly really happy how the station walls turned out so far considering how simple they are Pre-launch block break and tunnel And that's where I ended for the day. Stay tuned, there will be more coming soon!

Now I've been working on this project for a little under a year (at the time of posting), and have wanted to start a thread about it but have never gotten around to it. First i'll start with a little backstory: I've been wanting to recreate Cedar Point (and really any park) for years but lacked the skills and time, after playing with Planet Coaster for a while and becoming comfortable with the controls and building I started making rides I knew very well (Shivering Timbers lol), and decided I didn't need to work on this all at one time. Thus I started this daunting task by making -nearly- every coaster at CP. It took me maybe 3-4 weeks to make the coasters and then I lost a bit of inspiration because I simply wasn't as interested making the scenery as I was the rides themselves. Eventually I had a change of heart and have started back on this project again. Some project details: I've created every coaster EXCEPT Corkscrew, Blue Streak, Woodstock Express and Wilderness Run I will have to split the park into two parks unless Frontier updates the map sizes. I already have the top half setup though I plan on making as many of the Park's buildings as possible This project has a YouTube Playlist! A little more about the project: I really like how a lot of this park has turned out so far but there is a lot of work, and it is incredibly daunting. I have ran into MANY roadblocks with this and each piece I add has it's own difficulties. For instance getting the distances on Gemini was a pain, and is proof that everything in this park is still open to change. Looking at Gemini from above you can see that some angles it makes are different than real life, but I do hope to fix it soon. Cedar Creek is a very weird ride to recreate and ironically it is the worst and least accurate of the rides in terms of it's layout. I also like the fine tuning aspect of it. GateKeeper was incredibly hard to get some of the inversions as I had to custom make them to get the right angles. Pictures: I'm just going to post some for the time being, but look forward to more as I progress! I will try to update as often as possible as I work on it.

I've never wanted a rumor to be false to this extent before. Having had years and years of absolutely amazing trips to SWO and only having fairly lack luster trips to SF parks (Although I am used to CF if that helps), I would hate to see this happen. If it does I wouldn't want to be an alarmist as I would hope they would keep enough SW and BG staff around to keep the park's experience the same, I feel SF would make more poor decisions in the long run about the animals, and could harm the animals getting even better habitats than what Blackfish has already ruined (What ever happened to the larger tanks and realistic habitats anyway? Can't even remember the name of it).

Didn’t CF go flat ride shopping in Europe? Maybe they’re bringing an old flat back that they found there. I’ve never been to KI, but I feel like that could be the be something.

Oh my what a ride! I really think the layout is pretty good but tbh I think the MCBR won’t be too functional, I think the drop after will be fun, but it will only mildly increase capacity. Love the first half of the layout though! I can’t remember if I heard it might have a vertical loop or if I dreamt it, but I swear I’ve thought about it for this ride before! Seems sweet and the layout looks a lot better than Valravn. I will say that after riding SheiKra I wish Valravn and Yukon Striker would have the old restraints, but I’ll love the ride none the less. Plus I think enthusiasts focus too much on the small things like the tiny bit of layout after the MCBR or the restraints, enjoy the ride for what it is!

This is a next day post, I was there yesterday the 25th, and had an amazing day. The whole phone thing really isn’t too bad, although we did have FP+. I would like to see Cedar Point come with a better tactic in the off season, but I get why they’re doing it, especially after marathoning SV and understanding just how insane the airtime is. Anyway I feel like one reason they don’t have a better system in place at this time is due to time and this being a problem they didn’t foresee. I definitely could see them doing something better during an offseason when they actually have time to change stuff without closing down their best ride. Anyway I finally got a night ride on SV and oh my god. It’s even more insane. Mostly because of how disorienting the darkness, wood and incredible layout make a night ride. Definitely the best night ride I’ve had, but I’ll be honest Shivering Timbers is not far behind. I got a smooth night ride on it and let me tell you it’s pretty good too (mostly because it’s 100% dark from drop to camera). I also tried Maverick at night, which was still incredible as it’s my #2 ride in the park, but honestly in terms of night rides I would put it behind Cheetah Hunt. Something about the out and back part on CH, as well as the water and rocks on it being pitch black makes it seems better at night IMHO, plus I rode Maverick after Steel Vengance so maybe it’s awesomeness hurt my opinion. There is also another poster, I don’t know if anyone has posted about it yet but I was so confused when I saw a different one than what I saw on here a few days ago.

Well I guess my favorite ride at CP is back to Maverick after these last few pages. That sign a couple posts above just adds insult to injury, but Maverick still has the bins and it’s gaining some major respect in my books. I hope Cedar Point gets enough negative criticism to change this in a more creative way by next year, before becoming a Univerisal type phone communist

I’m late to the whole fluffy bunny goo thing (I can never remember 100% what the filter is), but I don’t think it would be too bad to have them free for the time your in line/riding it. I thought that’s how it was at USO and I felt it was easy and nice. Not really complaining about the price, but I consider Universial to be a tier above Cedar Point when it comes to customer satisfaction, and I don’t think it would be a bad idea for Cedar Point to follow. On another note I couldn’t imagine waiting opening day without my phone. Or the four hours I waited the first time for Top Thrill. I hope they’ll let Cargo Pocket people bring them if they do heavily enforce it. Hundreds of rides with phones in my cargo pockets and they’ve never failed me once.

Currently at the Frontiertown station and SV is currently testing with two trains. They’re not sending them too fast though. There are also spare breaks sitting on the ground next to the transfertrack. ^BTW they didn’t run all three on opening day. Was there and Blackjack was for sure in storage. I think it’s in my picture I took before the accident.

^ Got off about 30 minutes ago and with only my one opening day ride to compare it to, and seeing as my ride today was in the back, there was really nothing notable different. If anything my ride today was so much better being in the back vs the middle. And I agree this ride is undoubtedly my number one of all time. The back’s ejector air was unbelievable.

90% sure they just tested it with no trims because it was going a lot faster over the late few bunny hills than the previous run. Since I’m in line and it’s down I’ll give update when available lol. Update: finally got a look at the trim and it is on but this thing still flys even with it.