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Hearing that the water on Cheetah has stopped again. Anyone know what's up with that? Makes the s bends so much better and feel faster with the water rushing by....and is just a fantastic touch. Sad to see small things like this go away. But then again.....#PantheonTheming

Well said, @prozach626- however, when you know as a corporation the VERY well-overdue thing that would boost more consumer dollars and flat-out ignore it, it's stupid for the corporation to continue turning away from that glaring need. I understand consumer frustration, to that extent. I also agree with you - don't like it, don't support it. It's just mind boggling to me they have a violent, rotting coaster that COULD be a world-class one and be half the cost of building a new, ground-up build. But that's the sh*t we deal with having SFSTL local - and them barely getting by. A small capital investment would, without question, boost their ROI/Revenue exponentially. See any other park that did an RMC conversion.

I think it has been 5 years, maybe more? I should have stated something other than they "closed" it. It's been SBNO for years. Seems like Falcon's Fury might have the same Intamin Flat luck that Phoenix has. Hope not, though.

The park is closing and dismantling their Intamin flat ship: Phoenix. I loved that thing! I thought it was so cool how it'd hang upside down. Lots of people would just watch the ride cycle. It's next to Falcon Fury, so I wonder what the future of that area will be?

I'm hoping Universal takes a page out of Port Adventura's book with their new coaster collab between Intamin and Sally. Thing looks INSANELY good! Gut F&F and put it in there!

This thing looks brilliant! I'm shocked Epic Universe didn't use this "story-telling" type ride for it. Maybe IoA or Studios could add this? Simpsons or Fear Factor Plot? Or just re-do F&F...

Side note - Spartus is a strong name! I don't see anyone mouthing off to Spartus in HR

Any idea how far planning got? I had heard that as well from a person who has family with Eureka Town Hall....so I wonder if it ever got to serious planning? Pretty cool to think what could have been. But also f'n VERY depressing. I think Steel Boss could have moved the needle for STL as WoF and SDC have had capital (SDC way more obviously than WoF).

Not trying to cause any issues. Just what I, personally, felt and observed. I'm just hoping it's more consistently up....that's all that matters.

Again, I'm certainly not here to argue or stir the pot. I do remember opening year vs my experience last year - I came off thinking it was a bit slower, is all. It was a shade slower cresting those first hills and I remember it not having that "insane out of control" feel. That's all. But to each their own; maybe it was just not a perfect ride. I don't know. But it's not worth getting in a back and forth over

Probably a good question for the Cedar Point thread.

I can be on board with some difference in the day, but that is a huge difference. I went on it opening month(ish) back in '16 (spring-ish) and then again last year (summer) and could feel/see a noticeable slower launch up the hill and not the "pop" of airtime at either of the 2 top points of the launch. I'm no scientist, just saying that I definitely noticed a slower launch and less "insanity".

It has significantly changed. The launch is MUCH slower and the ride time is longer, due to that. When it first opened in 2016, that thing was literally insane. Now, it's still fast paced, but it doesn't really leave you totally spirit-less walking off. You can see the difference in speed over the first launch hill here:

Anyone know if they'd consider turning the Eagle trains around for FF? Or 50th? That's something that would be great to see return!

AND put the racer lights back up! At least on that first drop....that was soooooo cool

I still don't understand why the park doesn't invest in a modern-day Vekoma. Everything I see is brilliant from them. Get that PoS Ninja out of there and replace it with a good Vekoma

It's hard not to be down on a park that has just blatantly ignored a lot of big problems and for whatever reason won't do things to improve the "coaster capital of Missouri" #lolz I also hate to hear capacity issues on a couple of newer/popular rides (Catwoman and Justice). And last time I rode JL, the small things were missing. So much so, my 4 year old was crying because the "Joker looked dead on his bike" and I didn't know how to address that.

Not wrong

I wonder if they'd take on a mine train? LOL I'm sure whatever they would do to it, would be phenomenal. Final lift hill (world's first) mini-launch, uphill barrel roll!!

Scream, the parking lot coaster, in MM is shipped over to us for the plot where Tidal Wave was. At this point, an old B&M would be a jackpot add. That, or we hear the Boss is getting redone (either RMC or Titan). Also, that HITP isn't scratched. I love going there with my family.

Clarifying that I do not have insider knowledge. This was my assumption based on the inside detail the folks behind the article gave.

Based on insider knowledge, it appears the DS idea or pitch is very well still alive. Maybe they cut a deal with Intamin to have this DarkCoaster be a “filler” and the DS project is a 2025 delivery. Either way, I’m pretty jazzed to see the park make good use of an empty plot in this sense. I wish their sister in Tampa would follow the same suit! They’re in desperate need of some “troubled weather” type rides when the FL fronts come thru.

I’m not sure of the policies on this site, but another BGW well-informed site dropped a bomb about DarKastle’s replacement. Anyone heard/know more? From what they report, it’s going to be a very unique indoor Intamin family launched ride with an ending that…..”doesn’t end” (don’t want to give spoilers). If allowed, I’d be happy to link. Otherwise do some searching or check twitter. Sounds like a wonderful addition and a really great concept! If done right, could be a real winner and something some other parks would want to jump on. Cheers

I agree that is doesn't make sense. I'm just relaying what I heard and what the ride ops said. She couldn't have been nicer and knew I wasn't attacking, but just notifying. And she seemed to deliver it as it might be more the norm. WHich, as I said, is sad to hear.

Took my 4 year old to the park on Sunday. He's RIGHT at 42", so we can really only do JL, BBNP, and Mine Train-type stuff. Not sure if it's due to the new corporate cuts or what, but after JL I was talking to a ride ops and just saying the Joker wasn't moving, shooting "gas" and the fire didn't explode (all things my kid looks forward to and is "magical" in his eyes). The ride ops apologized and said due to new corporate cost savings at the end of the year, they've turned that down/off - which was really sad to explain to my kiddo. I'm a 35 year old who has lived local to STL all my life. It's really sad to sift thru some of these comments and see the above type of cuts trickling down. I remember the good ole days of the park as a youngster that fueled my passion for coasters, parks and such. My son asks me to watch rollercoaster videos and such, which is so fun. I hope they realize that the little things matter to the next generations. I know they're not CF, Herschend, Disney, or Universal....but if little things were working and in place, it makes a world of difference. Stepping off soap box