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Or...the world's smallest thrill coaster!

The rumor could also be BS, as the other 10 rumors have been. At the end of the day, I'm still hoping for a T-Rex.

^ I'm thinking something more like Batman/Robin the Chiller, where each side offers a different one trick pony.

This makes sense given the current relationship with S&S due to their work on the Free Fly coasters.

Are you the one with "inside sources" at RMC? Have you heard anything? If it's not Mack, my guess is another Premier Launch

The "victory" is probably the first park to 20 roller coasters...

Yeah well, we might as well give up that fantasy. SFMM is slapping inversions on whatever they build. They even added a "virtual" loop to their version of Justice League.

Purely speculation on my part, but it sounds like Dive Devil and Cyclone 500 will be renamed and themed, with Slingshot possibly moving to the cleared out area next to Cyclone 500. The new ride will go across from that with the remaining buildings on the right side getting an upgrade and theme to the new area, and then a re tracked and renamed Apocalypse will reopen with the new ride (probably some sort of duel tracked one trick pony). Also, I hope I'm wrong, but it's sounding more and more like my expectations for all this should remain fairly low. If nothing else, that area should look a lot better and more organized.

^ Right. When they start digging footers we'll have a better idea. Unless the official announcement comes first.

^ Possible, but as far as I'm concerned, the possibilities are still wide open. How we got stuck on this Mack thing is beyond me. Unless you know something the rest of us don't.

I don't get this logic. So if CGA is getting the 20 million dollar Mack, how is SFMM still getting a Mack spinner? Unless we think that suddenly 3 major parks are getting Mack coasters in the next year or so. Possible sure, but probable? That's quite a sudden boom in Mack coasters... Also, is it just me or is this construction area very linear... Like Superman, Xecelerator or even Full Throttle?

I think I'm just tired of bashing the ride, and choosing to look at the positive of what Goliath did for the park. I absolutely would have taken an Intamin, B&M or even Morgan hyper over it. But the ride is nearly 20 years old now, and is what it is. I've moved on to other, more noteworthy rides in the park. And I'm looking forward to what SFMM has in store for 2019, as well as finally getting another hyper up at CGA.

^ Right. Of course it's not NOW. I'm talking about the span of it's lifetime. It's one of the most popular coasters the park has ever built...whether you like the ride or not.

A good old front seat ride on Goliath every now and then is actually pretty fun. Other than that though, the ride is pretty useless imo. I will freely admit though that this ride just tickles the GP, which ultimately is a win for SFMM. This ride has definitely payed for itself.

^ I hate days like that. I don't even have enough energy to do a loop around the park.

To be fair to the park, there are a couple of important things to note: 1. Has it even been confirmed that there is a lawsuit? 2. Magic Mountain can't just do whatever they want to a ride. It had the approval of Intamin and the state of CA to open. You can armchair engineer all you want, but actual engineers approved it to open. 3. Magic Mountain may not have the best reputation, but I can say with confidence not even they would be grossly negligent in operating a ride. Exactly right! I would also add that SFMM can't just remove a ride when they feel like it. There is a chain of command and much red tape to get past first (not to mention budget approval to do so). Which is often why rides that enthusiasts would just soon wipe off the map, often take years before any action is taken, if it's approved at all.

Well, SFMM is known as the kiddie coaster capital of the world so... 20 is still possible, even if they decided to remove GL.

Tell him what's he's won, Pat! I could see this ride as part of a two ride addition, but as cool as that looks, on it's own this isn't going to be enough to draw guests back who haven't been to the park in years, which I'm guessing with the 365 days a year schedule extension, that's what they're going for with this addition(s). it's just not BIG enough (in terms of scale).

Wow, really short summer for some of these kids...

I'm not sure how this idea that Mack Spinners are small and disappointing got started. Time Traveler is a pretty massive undertaking for any park. If it's a spinner, SFMM's version is probably going to be pretty massive.

^ I would love to see the park get one more iconic ride like X2, Tatsu or Superman, especially on that side of the park. While Full Throttle ended up being quite fun imo, it just doesn't fit that bill. I'm keeping my expectations mild after what happened with FT, but have to admit I've always thought that back side of the park could use something other than Apocalypse.

Confirmed by who?

I say we let Six Flags reveal their plans before people start giving stuff away the park isn't ready for.

^ Oooo...you're closer to my age! So if you can take Crazanity that gives me hope I can actually ride this.

^^ Dang, they are not wasting any time! I wonder how much is being removed?