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I know this is way late, but figure better late than never. I did end up stopping by Kennywood on both my way to and from Cedar Point during my late-July trip. On the way out, I did stop in for a ride on Steel Curtain. The queue was about halfway full, and it was a 53 minute wait for the front row. In addition to the one-train running, operations were kinda horrible - at points they weren't letting anyone even line up in the station until after the previous train had de-boarded. As for the ride itself, it was pretty good but nothing too spectacular. I had a couple of pops of air, but the ride is basically non-stop inversions. I did like the "Banana Roll," which is basically a cobra roll with a corkscrew sandwiched in the middle, which I'm pretty sure I invented in my 2007 No Limits creation, DecaDemon (attached for anyone that still has No Limits). The ride really does seem like someone's No Limits design in the way it just slams you with inversion after inversion. Anyway, the ride itself is a 7/10 I guess. Here's a photo of the empty station while they let the previous train's passengers exit: The theme, and the theme of the area, as a non-Pittsburgh native, however, is a -20/10 for me. The announcement recording during the queue by the former Steelers Coach with all of the horrible football puns is an absolutely joke. I can see how locals eat it up though, since just about everything in the region is Steelers-themed. Anyway, on that brief stop, I also wanted to grab Lil' Phantom but it was closed, so I swung by the park on my way back from Cedar Point and got that credit. Whatever, it's a kiddie coaster. I unfortunately somehow lost my Zippo lighter on it, though. Anyway, just thought I'd follow up my previous report with the conclusion. DecaDemon (Arrow Multilooper).nltrack

Probably Monday.

By "regular hours" to you mean daytime? If so, yes, the park is not open to the public during the daytime on Sunday, October 2nd. I'd say 12 hours is probably enough to hit everything you want at least once. "Great Pumpkin Fest" is the name of their daytime, family-friendly Halloween stuff. All rides that would otherwise be running run on those days. But not that day, October 2nd, during which they have no public hours posted. If this is confusing, you should probably call the park or send them a message on FB.

Congrats on being one of the enthusiasts that give us all a bad name and make us hesitant to identify ourselves at parks.

"Too many" pushaw...and it's still less than it did in the first year before they reprofiled the first turn. Anyway, according to the Wikipedia page its 4.3g. Coasterpedia lists 4.5g. So somewhere in there.

At first I laughed, thinking you were referring to the clientele, then I remembered they had the safari park.

Nobody listens to me when I tell them this place is a shithole that happens to have the tallest coaster in the world and a woodie that was once awesome but has deteriorated horribly in the past few years. I live within an hour and a half of the place and I've been something like three or four times in the past 10 years.

Premises liability only goes so far. If someone takes a deliberate action in violation of stated/posted rules, the liability then falls on the individual person. If someone gets punched in the face inside the park, it is not the park that has the legal liability, because they have a stated/posted "no fighting" rule. That someone chose to disregard it is out of their reasonable control. Same thing with taking a phone out on a ride.

That sucks for those injured. Guess it's time to replace the cable lift with something else. That'll work to fix TTD, right? That second line is total sarcasm, obviously.

Possibly planning a trip here in the next few months...does anyone know if they run all of the rides during Winterfest like Knott's, or is it more like the eastern CF parks where they close 90% of the rides? Edit: Second question, can adults ride Lucy's Crabbie Cabbies and/or Woodstock Express without a kid? I figure no, as is CF's standard, but it's worth a shot LOL.

Because after the lockers, there is no "FL queue" You're still a hundred people back from the station (when you count both stairwells). At the merge point, which is about 50-75 people before the lockers, they do typically let a decent group of FL-ers through.

I admitted as much as that I didn't know. And I haven't lived in NJ for almost 20 years. Welcome to the forums, newbie. You're off to a rocking start.

Been a while since you've been to a SF park, huh? I haven't seen a grouper at one since COVID times. Sorry, I can't remember if they had groupers at SFGAm from my trip in 2017. I don't think so...?

I, for one, was enough of a whore to spend $7 for the Wacky Worm haha. And you should've checked out their so-bad-its-good-not-really dark ride, aptly called "Dark Ride." Did you ride Squadron 33 at Castaway Cove? That thing is nuts.

Most of the 50th stuff is kinda easy to miss - the history in Tower Gardens, the art on display in one of the stores, the once-a-day-and-now-it's-over(?) parade, the nightly fireworks/drone show. Um...Shake Rattle and Roll (their Troika) is awesome, and you forgot about Backlot. Or maybe you didn't, you did say "attraction of note" LOL. As for Mystic trying to lift your shirt over your head, I thought I was the only one it does that to!

Xolo Loca, in one of the traditional spinning cars, at Casino Pier, Seaside Heights NJ. #289.

No arguments there. On topic, my last coaster was Xolo Loca at Casino Pier; #289.

You can keep them out of the park, but you can't keep them from shooting people in the parking lot.

I'm convinced that was just a scheme to increase their stock prices and was never a serious offer. I hope LOL.

I believe they counted each of the seat flips where your head points more towards the ground than the sky as an inversion. EDIT: Confirmed by the Wikipedia entry that this is how the Guinness Book counts the inversions.

This is very true. SF websites are known to not be the most reliable.

Kings Dominion at one point had four (Backlot, Flight of Fear, Volcano, and Hypersonic XLC), but yeah I think 3 is the crown right now.

If these are in fact Kumbak trains, the comfort collars will be the least of your worries. On the one coaster that I rode with their trains (T3 at KK), there was definitely some SkyRush-esque thigh clamping, and I was pushing the restraint out as hard as possible during the entire ride.

$40 for parking at SFGAdv, wow. That absolutely blows my mind. When I first started working for the park at those very booths where you pay for parking in 1998, it was $7. That is a 471% increase. For comparison, the inflation rate for those 24 years totals 82%.

Care to enlighten us when that was the policy? The 1980s before they bought Dorney and the Paramount parks? As long as I've been following parks, and the history that I've studied since, that is absolutely not their "policy." The lack of major additions to the smaller parks more than once a decade makes that clear. And yes, "if they're still drawing crowds there's no reason to do major ride additions" at these smaller parks is what I've been saying all along. You think it's a change, but in the past 25-30 years, it has absolutely been par for the course. Cedar Point, and to a lesser extent Kings Island, are true "destination" parks. People plan trips solely around going to Cedar Point, much like they do Disney or Universal parks. This is why they need continual major investment; there isn't enough local population to support the park, so they need to keep drawing in the "destination" crowd. Not everyone is me who's willing to do a blitz 8-hour-each-way roadtip to visit CP on a long weekend regardless of what they add. Keep the dream alive, kid, keep the dream alive.