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Re: Potential Europe Trip Questions

Postby SharkTums » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:27 pm

^He wasn't calling you out, he was calling out the person giving terrible advice. No problems with your post!

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Re: Potential Europe Trip Questions

Postby Rollercoaster Rider » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:58 pm

SharkTums wrote:^He wasn't calling you out, he was calling out the person giving terrible advice. No problems with your post!



Oh.

Another tip is that most Europeans tend to ride in the front row for their coasters. Also the parks extend hours if the park is really busy.
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Re: Potential Europe Trip Questions

Postby robbalvey » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:41 pm

Nrthwnd wrote:Of the three you had listed over three days I could see putting Toverland and Bobbejand together in a day's visit. If they're
not too far from each other (I forget) and they have nice early opening and late closing hours.

But they don't have early opening and late closing hours. The latest Toverland stays open in the summer is 6pm. YOU only remember them having early opening and late closing hours because TPR bought out those parks early in the morning and later in the evening.

Again, and I'm going to ask this as nice as possible, if your name isn't "Alvey" please do not give people advice in the "Ask Alvey" forum, especially if you don't know what you are talking about!!!!!

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Re: Potential Europe Trip Questions

Postby Nrthwnd » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:55 pm

^ Noted. And apologies.
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Re: Potential Europe Trip Questions

Postby ItsMe » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:55 am

SharkTums wrote:^I completely disagree about public transport. Sure it's a better option than trying it in the US, but if he can rent a car that's much easier than trains and waiting for buses/taxis. Most of the parks don't have their own train station (or it's a bus/taxi ride away) and with an ambitious schedule it will be easier to have your own car.

The only country in the world I would do public transport for a roller coaster trip is Japan and even there, there are times when you're looking at a $40 taxi ride to/from a park.



Not advice, just backing up this opinion... so true! Also, public transport can be pretty expensive. Renting a car and sharing those costs really is cheaper. Also, for example (what Elissa says): bus from nearest train station to Walibi is about 20/25 minutes. Efteling is also 20/25 minutes. Excluding waiting time.
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Re: Potential Europe Trip Questions

Postby eKs_Productions » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:06 pm

Edit/comment: Sorry, I'm new in this part of the forum and I don't see the rules for "Ask Alvey". – Normally I would delete my answer, but I think it helps a little bit or give some nice ideas for the trip. – Sorry!

Perilous Chris wrote:Days 1 - 2: Travel from Lax to Amsterdam, and rent a car
Day 3, 4 and 5: Walibi Holland, Toverland, Efteling, and maybe Bobbejaanland
Day 6: Drive to Phantasialand, half day at the park
Day 7: Phantasialand
Day 8: Drive to Europa Park, half day at the park
Day 9: Europa Park
Day 10: Holiday Park
Day 11: Drive to Frankfurt airport, fly to Hamburg
Day 11: Rent a car, Heide Park
Day 12: Hansa Park
Day 13: Drive to Djurs Sommerland area
Day 14: Djurs Sommerland
Day 15: Maybe Skara Sommerland, Legoland
Day 16 - 17: Drive to Hamburg airport, fly back

1. Do the drives look relatively reasonable, or would it be better to use public transportation?
2. One park I would love to visit is Liesberg. However, it does not seem practical, without adding extra time. Is there anyway to fit that one in?
3. In shoes, I am a tiny bit above 6'4." This past summer I was height checked for Ride of Steel at SFNE, and was fine. I noticed many parks have maximum height limits. Should I be concerned?
4. I may try to add Tripsdrill, and Klotten. Is anything else recommended?


Hey Chris, greetings from Germany. I have some personal problems with this plan, but I try to get what you want.

First, the Questions:
1. 90% of all parks don't have a good connection to public transport. So you will need a rental car. (And you will love the "Autobahn" :b )
2. Book a flight from Hamburg to Göteborg (Liseberg), daily for about 40-60$ and flight back to Amsterdam for cheaper flights to LAX or you flight to Stockholm and visit Gröna Lund, in booth parks you don't need a rental car, they have great opening times and have some of the best coasters in the world. (And from Stockholm there are also some flights so LAX.)
3. In European high you are 194/195cm. Some rides have these as maximum limit (or 196), but in the most coasters it will fit in. It's more for the people over 2m (6'6).
4. Klotten is nice, but not special. And the streets are not the best. – But Tripsdrill is an European Classic. Old, small, family owned. Four coasters and three special and nice one (first Gerstlauer coaster and the first Infinity-Coaster, also the Mammut-Woodie).

The route: The point is: Europe looks small, but you need time for parks, hotels and the route. I don't get in the list of your parks if you want to count all the coasters or want to enjoy the parks with all there views, theming and landscaping. I've done all of your wish-list-parks except from Bobbejaanland (to do 2017 with Movie Park/Slagharen-season pass).

First Park: BeNeLux:
Days 1 - 2: Travel from Lax to Amsterdam, rent a car, visit Duinrell and go to hotel
3: Walibi Holland and try to get the new Gerstlauer at Slagharen (and you will have some Jetlag)
4: Drievliet and drive to Efteling, half day with night time!
5: Efteling half day, afternoon at Bobbejaanland
6: Toverland and Movie Park Germany
7: Phantasialand (On-Site to use the evening for counts!, special hotel opening of klugheim)

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8: Holiday Park, drive to EP
9: Europa-Park (On-site!)
10: EP 2nd day (morning opening for hotel guests)
11: Tripdrill and flight from stuttgart to Hamburg or Hannover
*) When the flights are in some stupid times, you can make: Day 10: Half day EP, 3h drive to Tripsdrill and 3-4h in the park for main attractions and flight in the evening/night. So you can safe one more day but its possible to miss something in EP.
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12: I recommend a flight to hannover because you will drive better to Heide Park (see map)
13: Hansa-Park

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Then you want to drive through hole Denmark. Of course, Djurs and Farup are very nice (DON'T DO LEGO! JUST NO! (The old Lego charme is gone away, Merlin ruined it totally!))

14: Djurs / 15: Farup (you can combine it with Tivoli Friheden, five special coasters and the worlds only really free free fall, because the park opens very long) /16: going back to hamburg (or doing lego) and flight back.

But why you don't:
A) Drive with the car over the famous Fehmarn-Belt to Bon-Bon-Land (Park Reunides Season Card inkl.; Day 14; or: 13 with half day at Hansa-Park) and to Kopenhagen with Bakken and Tivoli Kopenhagen (Day 14 or 15, booth long open into the night) and flight from there for one day to Göteborg or flight back to Amsterdam. (see map down)
B) Flying from Stuttgart to Hamburg and have no one-way-car-rental, and flying from hamburg to Göteborg (and Oslo?), back to Amsterdam.

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I hope i can help a little bit. GoogleMaps make it really easy to plan the routes. The times are good calculated.

I think you will need one season passes for a little bit of saving some money: Park Reunides: Free: Slagharen, Movie Park, Bobbejaanland, BonBon-Land; 50%: Efteling and 25%: Toverland
PHL and EP will be in the Hotel entry and the most of the other parks doesn't have any great discounts/benefits for one-day-visits.

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Re: Potential Europe Trip Questions

Postby Perilous Chris » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:32 am

^ Eric,

Thank you so much for the detailed reply. I really appreciate you taking the time to write all that out.

I actually already booked a flight into Amsterdam, and I'm flying out of Billund, for a total of 19 days. 3 days are for flying.

I want to ride as much as possible, but I do not want to rush parks like Europa, Phantasialand, etc. Here is what I have come up with over the past couple weeks, before reading your post.

I would love to visit Grona Lund, Tivoli Gardens and Bakken, but I'm thinking about saving those for a future trip.

Days 1-2: Fly to Amsterdam, rest.
Day 3: Rent a car, Walibi Holland
Day 4: Efteling
Day 5: Toverland, maybe Drievliet
Day 6 (Sat): Bobbejanland, fly from Brussels to Gothenburg
Day 7: Liesberg
Day 8: Liesberg, fly to Cologne
Day 9: Phantasialand
Day 10: Holiday Park
Days 11-12: Europa Park
Day 13: Tripsdrill
Day 14: Fly from Stuttgart to Leipzig
Day 15: Rent car, Hansa Park
Day 16: Heide Park
Day 17: Long drive, Djurs
Day 18: Farup, maybe Tivoli
Day 19: Fly from Billund to LAX

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Re: Potential Europe Trip Questions

Postby eKs_Productions » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:48 am

I think you have to swap/change:
Day 15: Rent car, Hansa Park // Day 16: Heide Park
Because (see the maps in my posting before) Heide Park is more south than Hansa-Park. And if you don't book your flight yet, change it from Leipzig to Hannover. It's a very long extra-way without any benefits. (Leipzig Airport >> Heide-Park: 3,5 - 4 h // Hannover Airport >> Heide Park: 1h) ;)

Very interesting mix of parks. You will love them all! (Some more, some less :p )
Planing a tour through Europe is very difficult; sometimes I have problems with some parks to reach and combine two small parks in one day. Europe has different regions for planing or standing alone (Scandinavia, Great Britain, The Mediterranean, central Europe ... and since Energylandia also East Europe).

All the best. – BTW.: When are you now here? So If you want I can come over for one park and show you some special places...
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Re: Potential Europe Trip Questions

Postby Perilous Chris » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:24 am

^ Thanks again for all your help.

It looks like I will be cutting Heide Park since Colossos will be down. I'm disappointed, but glad they announced this early enough, as I have not booked other flights. Time for some re-routing.

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