Jackdude101 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 When an older roller coaster is moved to a new park, does some or all of its historical charm get lost once it's moved? Example: Wild One at Six Flags America. It originally opened at a different park back in 1917 (this makes it the fourth-oldest operating roller coaster on Earth), but was moved to Six Flags America in 1986. Does it still feel like a "historic" ride compared to, say, Rutschebanen at Tivoli Gardens, which has been operating in the same spot since 1914? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSous Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 what ever happened to the orignal Zippin Pippin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoshiFan Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 It was relocated to Bay Beach Amusement Park in Green Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackdude101 Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 ^^^Rcdb.com claims that Zippin Pippin at Bay Beach is a brand-new ride based on its opening date and not being marked as relocated from Libertyland, its original home. The Gravity Group made it using the original plans for Zippin Pippin (hence the credit to John A. Miller as the designer) and parts and trains from some other defunct roller coaster. Because most of the wood from the original ride was not salvageable and because of the parts used from that other roller coaster, it has passed the point of being a simple relocation and can be considered a brand-new, Frankenstein-like, roller coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie200330 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I believe the Wild One has been altered too much to consider it anything other than just a coaster. Now from what I understand the Phoenix and Skyliner coasters have been pretty kept intact as their original selves. As for steel coasters, it is pretty easy to just pack them up and move them so I see no real discussion on those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philrad71 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I may have to consult Prince Desmond on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I guess that depends on your definition of "historic." For example, you could make a case for the Schwarzkopf rides on the German fair circuit, such as Olympia Looping. I do think location matters, though, when talking about a historic ride. Could you imagine the Cyclone being anywhere but Coney Island? I think it depends on how much the original ride has been altered in the move, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angle O. Descent Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I'd say Phoenix is one of the few that has, if anything, gained historical significance after being relocated to Knoebels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I really can't think of a well-known relocated ride that has lost its historical significance to the entire coaster-riding community. Maybe, if you were pushing it, Black Diamond at Knoebels would lose historical significance to people who rode it as the Golden Nugget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I definitely think some significance is lost when a ride is relocated. For one thing, I doubt any relocated ride has been 100% original parts due to differences in codes/location/what is salvageable/etc. For another thing, part of what makes a ride historic is the "backstory" so to speak, which gets lost when the ride is relocated. Doesn't quite have as much punch to call a ride historic when it is brand new to the community it has been moved to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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