Thorpe Park Discussion Thread

[hesukaheadRBLX]

So really, Air isn't meant to be at Alton Towers?

[Henry M]

Not at all. As it was a prototype coaster though, it was not very tall, so only needed a bit of digging into the ground, but you can see the station is in a hole to lower the ride down.

[hesukaheadRBLX]

Hmm... So you're implying that because Thorpe didn't have enough land, Alton took the ride straight from under Thorpe's noses, and then recently modified a ride that shouldn't even belong to them to such an extent that it wouldn't be fitting at Thorpe?

[Henry M]

You do know they are both, and were both owned by the same people and often work together, like the Stealth-Rita thing that went on, byt the fact they were both meant to be one coaster, but then they could not get the second launch in, so they did some geeky stuff and split the two designs, to make two coasters. That is why Stealth seems as short, as does Rita.

 

So in answer to your questing, essentially yes.

[Henry M]

You do know they are both, and were both owned by the same people and often work together, like the Stealth-Rita thing that went on, but the fact they were both meant to be one coaster, but then they could not get the second launch in, so they did some geeky stuff and split the two designs, to make two coasters. That is why Stealth seems as short, as does Rita.

 

So in answer to your question, essentially yes.

[hesukaheadRBLX]

Okay, that kinda seems dirty of Alton, even if they were both owned by Tussaud's (now Merlin).

[Henry M]

I don't see why it is dirty. The thing is that at the time, they could not remove the land from what was Thorpe farm, in order to keep the water volume the same when they make the new island. However with the Swarm, they had the money and ability to get rid of some land to keep the water volume the same, however, it being Tussaud's (like Merlin), they did not wait as they wanted to have the worlds first, so built it at Alton Towers.

[hesukaheadRBLX]

They do know that there were tons of peninsulas that could have been bought out in a matter of hours, right?

[Henry M]

I am pretty sure Thorpe Park knew what they were doing. i only have so much information, and am not going to make up anything I do not know as true. All I am saying is that this rumor of a B&M flying coaster probably came from the fact that Air was going to be built at Thorpe Park.

[hesukaheadRBLX]

I personally think that Air should be relocated, should this be true. Of course, I am only one in a few million Thorpe Park and Flyer lovers, but it'd be an interesting prospect nonetheless.

[Henry M]

it is now Galactica, which is a strange strange ride. I think it is there to stay, sorry. E-mail Thorpe park and tell them your complaint, I am sure they will take you very seriously.

 

I do think that Air now sits very nicely into Alton Towers: http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=72375

 

See the TR.

See the holes in the ground.

Taken on Saturday. It will not leave.

[hesukaheadRBLX]

I still don't think it works at The Towers. Maybe Thorpe should clone it? Put it where it should be? After all, Alton will be their crappy little selves, leave the paint to fade, moss to build up on the ride and for oxide to develop where the wheels have stripped back the paint.

Edited September 6, 2016 by hesukaheadRBLX

[Henry M]

I still don't think it works at The Towers. Maybe Thorpe should clone it? Put it where it should be?

That seriously makes no sense at all. Cloning an out of date, mild, prototype coaster is not a good thing. At least Batman is awesome and not mild. Thorpe Park and Merlin in general do good to not have clones of rides, and if there are, they have the first one of the kind and there are not many (Colossus).

[hesukaheadRBLX]

Well it's not my fault that Alton Towers have essentially stolen rides and that I think they should be returned to where they should be... You do know it is possible to relocate rides, right? That's why we have flanges and track segments. Not only for delivery but for removal.

[silenthillXD]

A very interesting fact is that Air was originally designed to go to Thorpe Park, however it would require creating more land on the island, and taking away some land from the main land, which at that point, they did not want to do or could afford. This meant that the B and M flying coaster was moved to Alton Towers and themed to a heroic thing as a juxtaposition to Nemesis. That is how Air came about.

 

Out of interest where did you hear this? Alton have been very open that Air was originally intended to open in 1998, but the design wasn't ready so they opted to sit on the design till most of the flaws were fixed and opted for Oblivion instead. I don't understand how that fits alongside what you've said.

 

On another topic, what do people think about the whole Loggers Leap situation?

[hesukaheadRBLX]

I'm glad that Loggers' Leap is being renovated.

[Henry M]

I heard this on the VIP behind the scenes tour I did. The hot told me this along with some other things. This may annoy you, but Colossus was originally intended to go to Chessington.

[Dar]

Jesus, the past couple of pages have just been garbage.

 

In actual, real, news Derren Brown's Ghost Train has re-opened. No idea what's happened, or why it closed in the first place but it does seem to be having some trouble. I wouldn't be surprised if it got some more attention over the close season!

[hesukaheadRBLX]

And yet you've no solid evidence? So you get me all worked up about Air, and then some guy disproved you, but then you tell another thing I can only call a lie? Start producing evidence.

[silenthillXD]

I heard this on the VIP behind the scenes tour I did. The hot told me this along with some other things. This may annoy you, but Colossus was originally intended to go to Chessington.

 

Oh that's interesting, not too sure about the Air one as it doesn't make sense, but I have actually heard about that Colossus intended for Chessie one before. Perhaps Air was meant to go to Thorpe, but as an altered layout maybe. I doubt it would be the exact same layout. It's all interesting though

[RyanTPM]

I still don't think it works at The Towers. Maybe Thorpe should clone it? Put it where it should be?

That seriously makes no sense at all. Cloning an out of date, mild, prototype coaster is not a good thing.

What on earth does that mean, out of date? it's a coaster not a biscuit. I've pretty much read all of those comments on the last few pages and almost none of it is true. Like this whole Rita and Stealth thing you keep mentioning is absolute fiction, it's never been confirmed by anyone at all as true, in fact it's a very old rumor that someone must have just said at some point as some sort of joke. Are you seriously trying to say they designed one coaster and then cut the design in half to make two, just no, they're two separate coasters. I don't know where you've got this 'Air was meant for Thorpe Park' thing from either, that's not true as well.

Edited September 7, 2016 by RyanTPM

[silenthillXD]

Are you seriously trying to say they designed one coaster and then cut the design in half to make two, just no, they're two separate coasters.

 

Oh my god that one is my absolute favourite. I can't believe people still throw it around. Most of these things are just here-say. I think the most convincing of all these is the Chessington one as John Wardley has said in the past they were originally thinking of putting thrill rides in the park. Seems outlandish now, but I guess that's due to the advent of Thorpe in the 00's.

[RyanTPM]

^Yeah I think the Chessington one could be true, I think I've read it somewhere. But the others, no chance, they're ridiculous.

[Dar]

I've heard the Chessington one from multiple people, apparently it was because Thorpe had looser planning restrictions so Chessington became the family park and Thorpe became the thrill-seekers one.

 

I agree that the rest is utter nonsense!

[Henry M]

Guys, guys, chill. I am only saying things that my VIP host told me during the tour I did at Thorpe Park. Now, if he told me absolute bull sh*t, then I will bring it up with him as I still have his E mail and am going to ask him tonight. All I am trying to say is that the Thorpe flyer rumour may have originated by this. Then somehow I began getting interrogated by that person saying that Thorpe Park should have Air. Personally if Thorpe were to get a flying coaster, I would prefer to see a new more modern design with a pretzel loop and 540 degree zero g roll.

 

I was surprised about this fact, however I know not everything he said was false, like Stealth originally being called the Edge. I even have evidence for that one.

See behind it, it says edge and with a slightly different logo.