B&M Hypercoaster Contest

[Xpress]

^Now that IS unique...

 

B&M probably wouldn't do it. ever.. Only Swarzkopf has done it.

[Xpress]

^Now that IS unique...

 

B&M probably wouldn't do it. ever.. Only Swarzkopf has done it.

[jarmor]

progress.

 

These arent the final colors just some colors im working with right now...

 

Hummm...should we all have the same color coaster to make things harder lol...

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Screw it, I'm finding loopholes

[Xpress]

B&M goodness:

 

 

I love B&M shapping, and Newton seems to make it perfect each time Only 1000 more feet to go and I'm onto supporting- which BTW isn't as easy as some say it is...

[Eric_Smith]

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I am not debating on whether or not I should find loopholes, or just fricken build..

Screw it, I'm finding loopholes

 

If you plan on posting anymore of these kind of comments, please drop out of the contest. If you ever hold a contest, I am not going to come and post this kind of stuff about it. It's really immature in my mind...

[jarmor]

what is newtons? my coasters are pretty smooth but I want to make it smoother. Could you give me more info about this newtons?

[Xpress]

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I am not debating on whether or not I should find loopholes, or just fricken build..

Screw it, I'm finding loopholes

 

If you plan on posting anymore of these kind of comments, please drop out of the contest. If you ever hold a contest, I am not going to come and post this kind of stuff about it. It's really immature in my mind...

 

Immature? You want to see immature, because I WILL show you if you think that is immature.. And I'm not dropping out. I have a completed layout.

 

Newton is a program which was created to make track building easier. Of course, this allows noobs to create smoother tracks, of which are unrealistic most of the time. It's an "Easy FVD's" program in basicality. You can get it from CoasterCrazy, or CoasterSims.

[Eric_Smith]

I just don't see the need to post "Screw it, I'm finding loopholes".

 

Do you at least see my point? I don't want to fight, I just didn't see posting what you did.

[Xpress]

What, would you prefer "Forget it, I'm finding loopholes."? That doesn't put as much enphasis on the statement as the word "Screw" does. You see what I'm getting at?

 

And I've been in many competitions, so I know how they're ran. I can help you out with the next competition to eliminate loopholes in the rules, if you want

[Eric_Smith]

Can you just PM me a list of the major loopholes you have found? I am very courious to see what I missed. I must be clueless.

[monkeyoverlord71]

I'll try something.

[Eric_Smith]

You got it!

 

ALL SPOTS ARE NOW FILLED!

[jarmor]

no progress updates from anyone else?

[Xpress]

Can you just PM me a list of the major loopholes you have found? I am very courious to see what I missed. I must be clueless.

 

Where's the fun in that

 

You will find out in due time

[Eric_Smith]

Just let me ask, is there one REALLY big loophole?

[Xpress]

No, only small ones. Just drop it now, as my track is done and I really don't want to spend ANOTHER hour in Newton...

 

Oh, and can you push the negative verticals to -1.2, as that would be a more realistic force, and in %50 and below my coaster hits -1.2 on this one hill, but looks -1.1 normally.

 

Edit: NOO. My entry is a corrupted file Luckily, all of my elements are saved into my elements older

[jarmor]

I say as long as the forces are in the green they should be alright...

 

Anyway here are some more progress shots for the lurkers lol.

Is that terraforming?

[Xpress]

^Tisk tisk. Using colors is misleading. In some countries, the maximum vertical forces are legal up to +7 to -3g. In NL, those forces would be colored red.

 

You should only use numbers to tell the force. Verticals often get above 4.6g on coasters like Vekoma/Arrows, some B&M's, a lot of Intamins, Giovanolas, and even Maurer. I use these values:

 

+5.5/-2.0 verts

+/- 2.0 lats

+/- 2 accel

 

Now provided the forces in the extreme range would be more painful then enjoyable, but that's a good way to measure forces.

[dr.gumbo]

^ I'm sorry but I don't think +/- 2g lats is realistic at all, maybe on a woodie it is but on a steel...

[Xpress]

^Somebody obviously hasn't heard of Arrow

 

Remember Drachen Fire? forces of up to 2.7 were the norm in the first corkscrew.

[Steffen_Dk]

Mhmm mhmm mhmm Jarmor - I can't wait to ride that coaster; it looks so amazingly smooth!

[dr.gumbo]

^^ B&M isn't Arrow the last time I checked.

 

EDIT: And yes, your ride looks pretty good Jarmor. Can't wait to see it done.

[Vid_w]

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I'd keep the forces lower if i were you...

 

+4.5 vertical; + 3.5 for wood

-1.4 negative; -1 for wood

+/- 1.2 or 1.3 (for steel), but only spikes. Those B&M inverts probably go this high in instances... But most of the times I'd keep them under 0.5...

For wood, I'd go up to +/- 1.6

+2, -1.5 acc; (-1 for wood)

 

Also, I don't think B&M hypers ever pull -1G, or even close for that matter.

I think they're trying to keep the Gs over the hills at 0G, but becouse of the lenghth of the train they vary a bit. So, about -0.2 to -0.4 for me...

[Screamomatic]

so ya, i think teh template sucks so don't be surprised if i miss the deadline...