knowit Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Um, ok. I think you are confusing Westboro baptist(who are the true haters) with Liberty. Making a blanket statement like that is pretty prejudice, and down right wrong. That's like me saying that your favorite coaster broke down because we went to war with iraq. It's doesn't take. The stand of Liberty is not one of hate. Yes, they believe that the gay lifestyle is wrong, as most Christian institutions that follow biblical principal, but they don't hate them. Just out of curiosity, why do you have such a HATRED towards the institution? I think you hate them as much as their "supposed" hatred towards gays. Can you give me one shred of evidence that the institution or Falwell himself said anything to the effect that "We hate gays"?
cathyJ Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Um, ok. I think you are confusing Westboro baptist(who are the true haters) with Liberty. Making a blanket statement like that is pretty prejudice, and down right wrong. That's like me saying that your favorite coaster broke down because we went to war with iraq. It's doesn't take. The stand of Liberty is not one of hate. Yes, they believe that the gay lifestyle is wrong, as most Christian institutions that follow biblical principal, but they don't hate them. Just out of curiosity, why do you have such a HATRED towards the institution? I think you hate them as much as their "supposed" hatred towards gays. Can you give me one shred of evidence that the institution or Falwell himself said anything to the effect that "We hate gays"? I don't recall Jerry Falwell, the man himself ever saying that he "hated gays". However the group he launched in the late 70's The Moral Majority, yes I do remember some of their members actually saying that. Actually there was a woman who has since died that used to live down the road from us and she was a "proud" member of that group and every month like clockwork she would write letters to editior saying how much she hated people who were gay. She even went as far as trying to get people who she felt were gay fired from their jobs, kicked out of their homes and so forth. At one point she tried to get our local county school system to bar boys from jumping rope becuase she really believed that would turn boys into future gay men. To me what she did was nothing but hatred. In her mind, two guys sitting beside each other in the movie theatre are gay. I guess she would consider two guys sitting beside each other on a roller coaster as homosexuality. Anyway needless to say when she died a few years back, not many went to her funeral. That infamous Westboro Baptist Church, actually that isn't a church at all. All it is is people who will do anything to get themselves in front of the TV camera and have people talk about them in the media and online. And sadly it works, everytime they show up at a funeral or whatever, the TV people flock to them like bees on honey.
redfoot12 Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 I have to travel to Lynchburg for work every now and then. I don't make it a priority to stick around too long and the huge Liberty/Falwell presence is evident. If they put a coaster up I'd sell my soul to get that credit.
Revolucion Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Since they say "mini-roller coaster", I would guess a Wacky Worm or something. Next headline "LU Student expelled for riding the 'Wacky Worm' with 300 different guys"
ginzo Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 That infamous Westboro Baptist Church, actually that isn't a church at all. All it is is people who will do anything to get themselves in front of the TV camera and have people talk about them in the media and online. And sadly it works, everytime they show up at a funeral or whatever, the TV people flock to them like bees on honey. They do have a chapel and Rev. Fred Phelps holds services there. Now basically the entire congregation is composed of only his relatives, but they are a church and many of their members, especially Fred Phelps, are quite well read on Old Testament. They just have a very odd interpretation of scripture. And, yeah, they are desperate for attention and the whole church is just a big scam for Fred Phelps to spread his hate.
cathyJ Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 They do have a chapel and Rev. Fred Phelps holds services there. Now basically the entire congregation is composed of only his relatives, but they are a church and many of their members, especially Fred Phelps, are quite well read on Old Testament. They just have a very odd interpretation of scripture. And, yeah, they are desperate for attention and the whole church is just a big scam for Fred Phelps to spread his hate. There is a debate as to the number of those members. Ranging to just a handful of family members to several thousand around the country. Old Testament? I always throught they were into some new kind of religion where ONLY homosexuality is a sin and nothing else. Shriley Phelps I heard not only lives with her boyfriend but has had several kids out of wedlock but she doesn't consider that lifestyle of sin. Which of course it is. But going back to the orginal topic, Liberty University's coaster. If they do get one, wonder if they will run it on Sundays? Sounds silly but I can still remember a time when most retail stores, restaurants, theatres and so forth were closed on Sundays because of that "day of rest" rule. Until four years ago in a county next to mine they had a similar rule where carnival rides could not on Sundays. Even though the law was dropped some churches tried their best to keep that rule into effect. Colorado's Focus on the Family, I seem to recall they wanted to get into the amusement park business at one time. I would like to say they wanted to get their hands on that Santa's Workshop amusement park not far from Colorado Springs but I am not totally sure. I know Focus on the Family offers games and attractions at their complex in Colorado Springs, but no rides.
jamesdillaman Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Um, ok. I think you are confusing Westboro baptist(who are the true haters) with Liberty. Making a blanket statement like that is pretty prejudice, and down right wrong. That's like me saying that your favorite coaster broke down because we went to war with iraq. It's doesn't take. The stand of Liberty is not one of hate. Yes, they believe that the gay lifestyle is wrong, as most Christian institutions that follow biblical principal, but they don't hate them. Just out of curiosity, why do you have such a HATRED towards the institution? I think you hate them as much as their "supposed" hatred towards gays. Can you give me one shred of evidence that the institution or Falwell himself said anything to the effect that "We hate gays"? "And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say, "You helped this happen." -- Rev Jerry Falwell, blaming civil libertarians, feminists, homosexuals, and abortion rights supporters for the terrorist attacks of Tuesday, September 11, 2001, quoted from John F Harris, "God Gave US 'What We Deserve,' Falwell Says," The Washington Post (September 14, 2001) There's what the man said. That's what I based it on. That sounds like hate speech, blaming the terrorist attacks on feminist, gays, the ACLU, and abortionists. -James Dillaman
larrygator Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 I blame Todd Snyder for missing two slow rolling ground balls and costing my company softball team a shot at the championship last year, but I don't hate him. ^Now I'm not a fan of evangelical preachers, but that is not a hate filled statement. Warped, close minded or twisted MAYBE. Hateful, no.
knowit Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 It certainly isn't hate speech. what is your definition of hate speech? if you disagree with someones lifestyle and vocalize about it, is it hate speech? God does say things in the old and new testaments about these things. Do I agree with the way he said it? No. Do I agree that all these things were caused just by people being gay, lesbian, ACLU ect?? No. We are all to blame. For him to group an entire nations problems on a few groups is definitely wrong, but it's not hate speech. They have freedom of speech too. I can only assume that any coaster on campus would be closed on a sunday, but who knows for sure
BrownStreak Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 I think that this topic should be merged with the OLD topic of "rides that the Holy Land park should add" photo-chop contest- they all apply again!
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