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^Yes I asked that question. But the difference was that I properly asked the question and explainded it. There was no room for misunderstanding while this question here is quite misleading. Does he mean the dip in the bend or does he mean why they have a bend.

 

Excactly, its a valid question but its just not clear what exactly he was asking, so its not necessarely a dumb question.

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What is the point of the U- Turn curved drop out of the station on most B&Ms before the chain clanking marathon begins?

 

I still don't see how that could be misunderstood.

 

"U-Turn curved drop out of the station"

 

It doesn't get much clearer than that.

 

On top of that, it's a very good question. Why create a turn at the beginning when the same amount of space could be used with a turn at the end, a la Apollo's Chariot?

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Maybe becuase that is how they designed it!? Because maybe they need a piece to connect the station to the lift hill!? That is just the way it is made and designed for the park?! I mean technically it can be a straight piece of track. It can be a slightly curved piece of track. It can have a drop. It can just be straight on to the lift. It can drop turn and do a few bunny hills. It can even fall out of the station into a big drop do a turn and another drop then onto the lift hill. etc, etc, etc. It is all up to the designers. I am actually a bit confused on the question to be honest.

 

Edit from Joe's post below: Is there really a "real answer"? I dont think there is because it is just an extremely vague and contraversal question and there can be many answers! Hence why this thread has gone on for 6 pages already!

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I had already written Dylang a PM yesterday telling him I misunderstood what he was talking about.

That's fine

 

(I really do not see why this thread was left open in the first place)

Perhaps in case someone DID know the real answer? To me this is just as fair of a question as "Why do some B&Ms have pre-drops?" which someone did eventually answer at one point....

 

- Joe / "please be nice guys"

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Well after thinking about it for a while this is my best guess

 

We will use Nitro as an example

http://www.rcdb.com/ig1106.htm?picture=15

 

1. It increases the cycle time and gets the train out of the station faster

2. Saves money- Less steel for support structure and it elminates the need for costly drive tires throughout the whole U-turn.

3. added bonus- it makes the ride more interesting with another fun little drop.

 

I am pretty positive (99.9%) these are the reasons for the infamous U-turn dip

 

JEFF

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^I'd be willing to wager that the cost of producing twisty track is probably about equal to just adding ten feet onto a support.

 

I think they key reason is just because it's fun. They don't have to do it. They could just angle the entire station and turn to make it leave the station faster and not use drive wheels. But honestly, I think it's a "because we can" thing, because not all of the coasters with u-turns out of the stations necessarily have that dip, either.

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Well after thinking about it for a while this is my best guess

 

We will use Nitro as an example

http://www.rcdb.com/ig1106.htm?picture=15

 

1. It increases the cycle time and gets the train out of the station faster

2. Saves money- Less steel for support structure and it elminates the need for costly drive tires throughout the whole U-turn.

3. added bonus- it makes the ride more interesting with another fun little drop.

 

I am pretty positive (99.9%) these are the reasons for the infamous U-turn dip

 

JEFF

 

That's what I thought (#1) but with the other items you have added it makes it even more plausible.

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