jALIg Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 I was just wondering who decides for example how many trains to put on a certain roller coaster on a certain day is it the ride supervisor or operations manager? Thinking especially on SFMM and parks which everybody complains about their slowness. Jonas "many difficult words for a Scandinavian" ali
Rollerholden Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 Your English is much better than some people on here! I don't have as good of an answer as some people on here who are ride ops, but I'd say the number of trains depends on what day it is, and how high attendance is expected to be.
jALIg Posted August 12, 2006 Author Posted August 12, 2006 :'> Your English is much better than some people on here! I don't have as good of an answer as some people on here who are ride ops, but I'd say the number of trains depends on what day it is, and how high attendance is expected to be. thanks;) im gonna improve it tough but in all normal parks they do that they run 3 trains on peak days and 1 the rainy ones for example. My homepark tusenfryd closes rides only for technincal reasons but it seems like SF parks closes rides temporarily for comercical reasons, no wonder people dont like their parks. But i think it really shows lack of customer care and after all their the ones who could be paying their debt. So just by seeing who decides that for example we can understand wether this anti-guest attitude is just with the people working in the front line or or higher up in the ranks
easytoremember Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 I also have wondered this. It is the one thing that bugged me about Holiday World. at the beginning of the day they were running two trains on Raven, then later when we came back, they had taken one off, so their was a ten minute line. excpecting it to be a technical problem, we asked the Ride op why, and he said that they didn't need two. Whats the point of taking one off, causing it to have a line? I know it doesn't really matter that much, but really, whats the point?
Electerik Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 Of course, not all parks are the same. But, in my experience, it's usually the ride's lead or supervisor who decides how many vehicles to run and when to take them on and off. However, there are many, many factors that inform this decision, including the philosophical bent of higher-ups (who are often just parroting someone even higher up--making it almost impossible to say who really makes the decision), staffing levels (most parks have fairly hard and fast safety rules about how many operators must be present to be able to run addition ride vehicles), and vehicle readiness (which can be a lot more complicated--and political, in an interdepartmental sense--than it might at first seem). As a general rule, though, I would say it's more of an overall philosophical thing at most parks that determines how many vehicles should be run. And that usually starts somewhere near the top.
Scaparri Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 I also have wondered this. It is the one thing that bugged me about Holiday World. at the beginning of the day they were running two trains on Raven, then later when we came back, they had taken one off, so their was a ten minute line. excpecting it to be a technical problem, we asked the Ride op why, and he said that they didn't need two. Whats the point of taking one off, causing it to have a line? I know it doesn't really matter that much, but really, whats the point? It can be more of a pain for the ride ops and cause the trains to stack more frequently. If the ride ops are constantly having to fasten seatbelts, it can take a lot of time when you don't have that much time before the other train comes back around. Also, a lot of rides, depending on the temperature, need to have nearly full trains to make it around the circuit, which can also lead to taking off a train if the line isn't consistent enough to keep the trains loaded.
mboz773 Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 At my park, we always have the standard set two train operation levels everywhere everyday. When we have a projected high attendance like on weekends, we will staff for three trains everywhere and max units. Usually it is operations full times but supervisors play a big role in it as well. For example, it is the supes job to staff the ride and we need more operators for more trains. Also if the day is really slow or it gets rained out, full times will usually tell the supes to take off a train at rides we can because first we dont need it (walk ons), also to save a little budget money (sending that extra operator home) and to save the operators a little work and maintenance (less wear and tear on a train).
kidcoaster Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 Mayb e some parks are Maintmence. My dad used to operate the Bluestreak at Conneaut Lake Park. One day the Bluestreak operated 2 trains. For the only time ever. He said maintmence ordered that but when that happened the ride supervisor help run it so with 3 he said it was still hard. I am sure the work load will keep only one on.
arrowfanman Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 There are occasions where maintenence makes the call, if they do not authorize certain units to be operated. However, in truth (at SFMM), a number of people could make the call. The lead at the atttraction cannot do it by his or her self, but can request that another train be added to the main line. A supervisor can also make the call. However, if the decision has to do with cost cutting, that decision most likely came from high operations management, and other boyfriends of moms. -Jahan
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