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What makes you so confident of this? I'm not saying it won't happen, but there are other parks in the chain that are speculated to get major additions in 2016/17 as well. Kings Dominion, Valleyfair and potentially Cedar Point come to mind. One of those could be a less expensive addition (say a GCI) or a dark ride, though. Either way, very slim chance that more than one B&M would come to a Cedar Fair in any single year.

No matter what company buys Darien Lake, the park isn't going to ever expand at the rate of larger parks you mentioned. Expanding rapidly and recklessly or embracing a concept of "if you build it, they will come" would put Darien Lake out of business. Too many people accuse ownership/management companies of neglect when in fact they are expanding at the rate that is sustainable for the particular scale of a park. We can argue that Darien Lake might have received less than other parks of it's size over the past decade, but you need to have a stable management group to actually develop plans and see them through. However, enough with this notion that these smaller/medium-sized parks are an afterthought or "neglected" by their respective ownership/management groups. Totally agree. Other examples I can think of are parks like Six Flags America, Valleyfair, Worlds of Fun, the Great Escape, among others. Little investment =/= neglect. Except SFA from '02-'09. That was neglect.

Man, I need to check out Skyrush quick! El Toro is my current fav both overall and for airtime. For steel coasters I would say Maverick, but MF came as a close second for sustained strong floater (Also a shout out to Nitro in the front).

Being in high school, going alone isn't really an option for me (travel and being just generally busy with school/friends). I went to my home park give or take six times this season, every time was with either a close friend/girlfriend/cousin. I did make it up to Great Adventure several times and Cedar Point for a 2.5 day visit, and in both cases with my parents. They aren't enthusiasts, but both generally enjoy coasters. Both tolerated a 14 hour day at Cedar Point. As someone mentioned above, I did actually take my first ride on Kingda Ka alone. I was fully prepared for the ride, but I did get quite nervous pulling out of the station alone. With that said, it was and always is a really incredible experience. I do enjoy riding with someone more (night ride on Dragster ), but it is enjoyable either way. A great coaster/park is just that, whether or not you are with someone else.

You order a large soda for $5 but are given a cup full of ice and 8 oz of soda tops. No lie.

^SFA is my home park as well. I visited 5 or 6 times, about once a month. Being my home park, I've become more aware of the park's difficulties and drawbacks, but I can also see the improvements they've made and appreciate the park for what it is. My last ride of the season was front row on Superman closing day at night in under 40 degrees. Man, other than Millennium Force earlier in the summer, that was the best way to close out a day at the park, or in this case, a great season of riding. (FYI that's not to say SFA is my favorite park at all. Cedar Point is my current fav, but I frequent Great Adventure almost as often.)

Actually... We wouldn't mind...

On the topic, I'm very curious to find out how the blocking system will work. Based on the animation, the trains will fly at least halfway up the second lift, and the chain first begin at the base of that lift. I wonder what happens when a train gets stuck on the second lift. How would the following train make it up that lift? I know, RMC knows what they are doing, but I'm curious to see how it will work.

My opinion increased greatly after about 10 MF back seat re-rides this summer. Previously I thought it was very good, but some night rides bumped it up to borderline #1 steel with Maverick.

^Nice! Go ahead. *edit: I tried to make the park sound very appealing, and outside of the two Vekomas (one of which is decent), it worked! The hot dog stand is legit though.

This park has... A "first" of some kind Two wooden coasters Two Vekomas An Intamin goodie A launched coaster A hot dog stand

1998 was an interesting year. I was quite the enthusiast back then, at the prime age of zero Hard to choose the top three, some top choices include... Riddler's Revenge - SFMM Volcano - KD Shivering Timbers - MiA Ghost Rider - KBF The Chiller - SFGadv Mamba - WoF

Dollywood?

^So that settles it! Wicked Cyclone > Twisted Colossus. They both look like outstanding rides. Wicked Cyclone does appear to have some pretty incredible pacing though; something I'm interested to see if TC is on the same level of quickness. The old Colossus appeared to really struggle on the high portions.

^Well, did they still keep Cyclone's first drop to this point in the renovation? You can't compare demolishing a ride (Rolling Thunder) and leaving a piece of track that requires some precision to remove and leaves a gaping hole in El Toro's supports to this crazy idea that RMC isn't going to remove the old Colossus track. I don't even know where this idea came from, and I'd be surprised if this was even SF's decision. Did RMC renovate Rolling Thunder, then leave the base of the drop? No. It was demolished, and the track is a memorial sort of thing. They are completely overhauling Colossus' support structure, and it may even require the removal of the old track. Please, everybody, just put this idea to rest. I'm all about making fun of Six Flags when they deserve it, but this is just ridiculous speculation that isn't based on any previous examples.

Twisted Colossus is by definition a hybrid coaster. Steel track with wood supports, no different than a ride like Gemini (CP). While it is under the steel coaster category, I would say the longest hybrid coaster is a valid claim, however misleading. As for the track length, you have to queue once for Twosted Colossus to experience 4,990 feet of track, while you had to queue twice for less than twice the track length. Apart from this, it really doesn't bother me that a major portion if the layout was removed.'the ride experience will be better no matter how you look at it, and that's what matters. I'm all about calling out Six Flags, but RMC has been one of SF's best decisions in years.

I think it's still there because Six Flags Great Adventure wanted the "World's Shortest Wooden Coaster" record. Now, hey, maybe Magic Mountain can beat that one. They could also claim the shortest racing coaster, shortest incomplete circuit wooden coaster, and most lazy attempt to memorialize a classic coaster. But who's counting. (Oh, that's right, Six Flags is )

I can almost guarantee they will NOT leave old Colossus track laying to rot. Rolling Thunder's track was left for two reasons: it crosses under El Toro, making it difficult to remove, and as a "memorial." RMC is making major modifications to the support structure, requiring the removal of the track in the first place. It would also look VERY out of place. But then again, so does Scream. My point still stands.

I'm interested to see how this plays out for the last few seasons. As a relatively major park in the Cedar Fair chain, it would seem logical that a WindSeeker tower swinger would come before long as they were first mass-ordered in 2011. I don't see Zero lasting much longer. I am also interested to see if you go with a "big finish" type transformation coaster. 2014/2015 would seem like a good time for the next multi-million dollar coaster, so if you follow real world Cedar Fair patterns, something along the lines of GateKeeper or Fury 325 could be a nice way to top off a great project like Valley Hills. You know when you have your viewers "speculating" you've done some solid work, and I am certainly intrigued. Keep it up.

With a Roar RMC conversion or burning down Apocalypse, that would become much more feasible. I am doing the opposite of exaggerating. That would make me very proud.

Thanks for the replies, everyone! I have some exciting plans for the near future at Frontier Forest, I hope to see you there! Thanks, JonnyRCT3. Valley Hills was actually part of the reason I got back into RCT over the summer. I hope to see Valley Hills finish out strong once you get the time (I'm having the exact same problem- Junior year is not the best time for take on a long term project like Frontier Forest).

I never understood why they made a show out of him riding, for example, Cedar Point's four tallest rides, then hyped it up to make it seem like he accomplished something. The show with the self-proclaimed "enthusiasts" bugs me even more.

Or for a Maverick clone In all seriousness, if revamping Gotham City is the way they end up going (which we don't actually know, but it would be logical as it's a really crappy *themed* section), I could see a SkyScreamer in 2016 (height limit removed), a few flats, and either an inexpensive coaster or a relocation(of a decent ride- something like Gadv's Bizarro). I don't see the park investing any more than about $5 million in any one year until the profits can justify it. As for the dark ride, obviously it would be great for any Six Flags park, but I don't see SFA as a priority for a new ride concept in the chain right now. Notice all the latest Six Flags trends (Skyscreamers, RMC coasters, 4-D coasters, etc) have mysteriously *bypassed* this park? Especially with a more costly ride like Justice League, I don't see SFA as one of the earlier parks to invest in this.

I want to personally thank everyone for the recent criticism to Frontier Forest. Please understand that I take everything you guys say to heart and truly work to see how I can improve the park based on your suggestions. That being said... I would like to introduce the new and improved, fully fenced in, completely re-forested, refreshed 1991 version of Frontier Forest. The captions speak for themselves, but for the lazy readers, Frontier Forest had a BIG year in '91. In fact, the biggest year in history. "We are very proud of the recent happenings at Frontier Forest, and our customers have responded. As a result of our recent success, expect big news in the coming months concerning our 1992 investments of capital. The surge in attendance and profits caught our attention, and prompted a major investment; one that was not previously anticipated." Frontier Forest said goodbye to a coaster than put the park on the map for many, reducing the number of roller coasters to four. Forest Falls is the park's third major water ride, as well as the tallest, looming five stories up. A major part of Frontier Forest's 1991 season involved their dedication to their forest setting. Throughout the winter and spring, hundreds of mature trees were transplanted into the park, going back to the park's "roots" as a forest preservation area. This effort, which served as inspiration for the name of the new attraction, is even regulated by the county to prevent excessive tree removal. Thanks for reading, and as always, comment appreciated! On closing day of the 1990 season, park guests took one last ride before saying goodbye to a major piece of Frontier Forest's history... Catapult, Frontier Forest's first major steel roller coaster, launched into history when the gates closed on the 1990 season after celebrating its 10th anniversary the same year Taking its place was Forest Falls. Manufactured by Hopkins Rides, riders drop from stomach-tightening heights of 50 feet in the air on this all new water adventure Onlookers on the bridge prepare for the splash as 16 riders careen down the slope ahead Along with Forest Falls, Looping Starship made its promised return nearby after a refurbishment to the ride's mechanical system Along with these two rides, an eat in coffee shop and a new guest services building were constructed, extending Main Street past the fountain in the refreshed 1991 season at Frontier Forest Frontier Forest's total investment in 1991 reached over $5 million, including Forest Falls, Looping Starship, new buildings, new fences, as well as hundreds of mature trees throughout the park A construction area was fenced in next to the Mine Train in the fall Final overview concluding the 1991 update

Looking closely from that image if Coyote Creek and frequenting the park this summer, I can say with near certainty that there is not space for a path without the removal of either Renegade Rapids or Mind Eraser. The rapids come within a couple of feet of Mind Eraser's supports, and just as close to Roar's structure on the opposite end. No matter how you look at it, the rapids come too close to the surrounding coasters to allow any sort of path.