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I'll be there at opening on Saturday. Planning on parking myself in the back of El Toro most of the day. Like seriously marathoning the crap out of it. If anyone else will be there, let me know! I'll be there alone so I'd love to meet up! @boldikus--back seat of the bull at opening? I'll be there.

Isn't it connected to regular flash pass wait times? I'm not sure how accurate these are at Magic Mountain, but they seemed *okay* at Great Adventure. Nitro jumped from 5 to 45 minutes in a few cycles on flash pass, so take that for what it's worth.

^Seriously? Gimme a "brake." The Boardwalk expansion brought some of the most popular family rides available. Who cares if a carnival can have similar rides? Knotts did it correctly and it was a success. End of story.

^I was going to post about Six Flags America, but I've decided that instead of being down about it I'd just not renew my pass (which unfortunately means no Great Adventure) and splurge for a platinum pass, planning trips to Kings Dominion, Carowinds, Kings Island and Cedar Point. Sounds like an upgrade over SFA and Great Adventure to me But seriously, the park has been getting better and the park looks to be in pretty good shape but they've invested next to nothing in new rides. Like $3 milllion in 2014, $1 this year and $2 million next year? Kinda sad.

A few come to mind--Fury 325, GateKeeper, maybe El Toro. Millennium Force is a beautiful coaster though. Matthew Owen photography

I always thought the barrier was 135 degrees. Halfway between horizontal and inverted.

Dear God no not again. I thought this thread had finally become tolerable for a bit. Let's not ruin that in April (or right now).

Doing some preliminary trip planning for 2016. Does anyone know when opening day will be next year? Do they have some kind of passholder preview day (we have Platinum passes from KD) beforehand?

^Is there any actually proof of this, or just speculation?

Just got back from the park for its closing day. Didn't end up doing any of the houses because we could tell it was going to be busy and we didn't feel like staying late enough to finish all the houses. Since I've never really left my opinion on all the coasters I'll put my ride count down below. All in all, a pretty good, quick visit and the park looked good, other than operations. Roar (1x): The parts that have been recently retracked are bearable, but the rest of the ride shuffles a lot and isn't enjoyable. The parts that are bearable are pretty uneventful and the ride completely lacks in the airtime department. It's good enough for one ride per visit but definitely would benefit from either a major overhaul/reprofiling or a full out I-box conversion. This ride needs it. Overall, 3/10. Apocalypse (1x): The ride is very visually appealing and was obviously meant to be the big kick to try to get this park back into shape. Well... that didn't work. The ride sucks and there's nothing I could say that hasn't already been beaten to death. Even after learning how to ride defensively and position the seat properly, some headbanging is inevitable. I wish Six Flags would consider floorless trains but it garners as much a line as any other coaster in the same general category at the park so I don't see it happening. Overall, 3/10. Mind Eraser (0x today): There's a reason we didn't ride this one today. In fact, I didn't even point the ride out to the rest of our party. The layout is really fun which is almost unfortunate because the ride is just so, so horrible. New trains could save this ride (I'll be giving T3 a shot next June) but as it is this ride is the worst in the park. Overall, 2/10. Wild One (1x): While it could use some work in some places and a fresh coat of paint, this is definitely one of the better classic wooden coasters in the Six Flags chain, and certainly the better of the two woodies in the park. There's quite a bit of nice floater airtime to be had here, and while it's no El Toro, it's a respectable ride with a surprisingly intense helix. Overall, 7/10. Joker's Jinx (1x): The launch isn't extremely forceful on this version compared to Flight of Fear, but it's a coaster with inversions and no head banging, which is definitely a plus at this park. The launch is over-the-top loud in the tunnel, but not in a good way like B&M's are. There are a few fun, forceful transitions in the second half of the layout which benefits from the lack of a mid-course, and the corkscrew in pretty snappy. The track could use some paint though. Overall, 6.5/10. Batwing (1x): I usually ride this once a visit, and that ride was delayed to the evening due to some technical difficulties in the afternoon. That was probably the best thing that happened today because with the absurdly slow one train operations it was almost pitch black by the time out train rolled out. It delivered a smoother ride than usual today and the loop is up there with the pretzel loop on its B&M counterpart. Sans for some pathetic capacity and sketchy restraints, I enjoy this ride. Overall, 6.5/10. Superman (2x): I've said it before and I'll say it again, this ride is huge waste of potential from an awesome Intamin Megacoaster. Despite that, it's still a pretty good ride. The drop is okay in the back (which is where I always ride) but underwhelming anywhere else. The first airtime hill is mediocre anywhere on the train, and both helices serve the purpose of going fast and turning around. Nothing else. I'm still baffled by the straightaway (I get it at Darien Lake but here...), though it leads into an above average ejector hill. The final bunny hops are very good, stronger air than the B&M hyper finales. Even though it's my favorite ride in the park, the ride is still a stupid waste of track for half of the ride and compared to Millennium Force (which I'm a big fan of) it's just so underwhelming and hard to believe they're from the same year. It's good that it's at this park because it makes the other mediocre coasters worth riding once. Imagine if New England's superhero coaster were at this park. Everything else would look like, well, what it is. Lol Overall, 7.5/10. Ragin Cajun (0x today): The rest of my group didn't feel like riding anything spinning, so we skipped out on this one. It's pretty straightforward, but I enjoy this ride. The spinning (in my opinion) isn't too ridiculous to make me sick, and it was definitely something the park needed. It always has some sort of line so you can tell it was a good move to take it from Great America. I can't really rate it because it's not trying to be a thrilling coaster, but purely based on enjoyment... Overall, 5/10. We also ride the flyers once (they thought I was crazy for wanting to ride this but their minds were blown over how much fun there are), and skipped the drop pole (I have a hard time calling this a drop "tower", sorry). Bourbon Street Fireball makes me feel nauseous sometimes so I don't bother riding it anymore so we skipped that as well. I'm not renewing my pass for 2016 because I've pretty much enjoyed what the park has as much as possible and I don't really care about a new water structure, but the park is making strides and I've had a lot of good memories going to this park the last four years. As a side note, this was the first time I've ever had to park in the second lot which was almost full. I didn't even know this park had a third lot, but I really hope they'd run two trains if it ever gets that full. Waiting for round two on Superman The park had more Fright Fest props than I remember last year. This one was especially cool and weird.

Definitely... Kings Dominion Cedar Point Kings Island Kentucky Kingdom or Kennywood Maybe... Dorney Park Holiday World Six Flags Great Adventure

Best-- From a spectator standpoint, Millennium Force. Nothing gets your blood pumping while waiting in line more than a train full of riders a few feet away at 55 mph, then an overbank, and finally seeing their reaction on the opposite side on the brakes. Worst: I haven't ridden it, but Intimidator at Carowinds looks pathetic. On Nitro, if a train is dispatched just before the previous train climbs into the MCBR, it'll drop off the lift maybe 10 seconds after that train hits the final brakes. If you're dispatched at the same time on Intimidator, the previous train hits the final brakes before the last car begins to ascend the lift. It's really a slow, short, and thoughtless finale.

Wow just found out we might be making a last minute family trip to New Jersey next weekend. I suddenly *really* want to "visit family." Seriously what are the odds? Anyway there's a chance I'll be at the park next weekend now. Might be going alone so if anyone wants to meet up for a few rides on El Toro/Nitro I'd love to (I'm 18 btw, if that's not your cup of tea I understand lol).

This really depends. The erection process can be more difficult for some than it is for others. It's nothing any one manufacturer should be ashamed of though. ...then the last one came. This process also varies. No shame here either. Too far?

Awesome TR! I've actually been to Voodoo Doughnut when I went to Portland in 2014. Awesome doughnuts, weird (in a good way!) place, just like Portland.

I thought Magic Mountain employees weren't supposed to announce they work for the park on the boards...

Looking at making a final visit of the year on Sunday. I'm not renewing my pass next year so I'll probably stay until closing with some friends, arriving early afternoon. Have they been running two trains on most coasters? Are the houses worth waiting/paying for? Speaking of, how much are the houses this year for season pass holders? I did them last year and they were okay at best... I'm assuming they're basically the same this year, sans the one new house. If you've gone to Fright Fest this year let me know how thought it was.

I grey out the majority of my rides on I-305, but it really varies on the person. I don't have an issue with greying out to the extent I do on the ride--for me it's similar to the extent at which I do on Nitro's helix. However, when I brought my good friend to KD (after riding Nitro multiple times and occasionally greying out an acceptable amount, he lost consciousness on I-305. Every single ride. We could have re-ridden as it was a light Friday afternoon during Haunt with minimal lines, but I didn't feel comfortable watching him experience that. He loves intense coasters (El Toro) and actually really does like I-305, but he doesn't recall the first airtime hill at all, me touching him on the shoulder to check his responsiveness during that time, or his eyes rolling back into his head ever so slightly. I'm not a medical expert, but I know that everyone responds to extended positives differently and we decided to take the safer route and sit it out a few hours, get some food and water, and try again later.

^Id call BS. If my understanding is correct the state required Gadv to reprogram the system to not allow the two to run simultaneously at all, such that the roof on Zumanjaro must close before Kingda Ka can launch, with or without riders.

Does Great America hit 3 million annually? I thought Great Adventure and Magic Mountain had the highest attendance in the chain (Gadv's more concentrated), and that park never seems too horribly crowded outside of October Saturdays.

Every time I take a look at the Cedar Point webcams during the day with decent weather Millennium has a mostly full queue, and at the same time on the same day Diamondback is nearly a walk on. Of course there are factors that influence this but it's very consistent. Does Kings Island just not get that busy during the day in the fall? It's really weird and I take a look at the webcams fairly often because I'm a nerd Edit: later in the afternoon it might be a 10 minute wait and build up at night, but until then its almost empty. It's a strange sight to see.

The general consensus on this thread (and other sites) is that the next area for a major development will either be Rolling Thunder's plot or Old Country. The former seems unlikely until they're willing to actually expand instead of just building up/rebuilding what area already exists, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the next coaster in that general vicinity. As for when this might be, some are saying as soon as 2017/18, but I'd be more likely to say 2019/20. A Justice League dark ride and perhaps some more flat rides could be in the cards before the next major coaster.

It's human nature to have different opinions than other people. There are plenty of people on this site that have ridden hundreds of coasters that rank Millennium in their top 10. Enjoying Millennium Force and thinking it is an exceptional coaster is not a bad thing at all, and it doesn't make someone "GP" just because they enjoy it. Its 100% your opinion that MF isn't a top twenty coaster, but the reality is that a lot of people disagree with you. I haven't ridden a lot of coasters because I have a busy life and don't have the opportunity to travel too far to ride roller coasters. I can still recognize that MF isn't the most intense, rip-your-face-off type coaster, but I've ridden it (and numerous other legitimate top 10 coasters (Maverick, El Toro)) dozens of times and can appreciate what it does and what it stands for. That doesn't make me "GP" and it's not right at all to say that anyone that shares this opinion doesn't understand coasters.

Regardless this park absolutely needs something big in 2017. If what they built in 2014 is the best they can do for a "major" investment then Six Flags needs to part ways because they're seriously limiting the park's potential. As a whole it's way better than it was in 2010 or so but they've spent no money at all and attendance hasn't picked up to show any considerable results (from what I've observed/heard). I hope the rumors of a Wild One refurbishment are true, but in addition to something more significant, or in 2018 for its 100th anniversary, not 100th year, after a new coatser in '17.

This one. Have them mounted on a small tasteful plaque. Something He'd want to hang. Maybe align them from top to bottom with the funny ones up top leading down to the more serious ones. End with friend. I second this. If it's possible you could do 10 or 17 with "Friend" in the middle of the square. I think that would mean a lot.