COASTER FREAK 11

Here's the vid the Blog posted this morning. [youtu_be] [/youtu_be]

I race on Matterhorn all the time, but it's just pure luck. The park does not operate it as a racing coaster; instead as two seperate coasters. They do this for capacity, because holding a train more than is required, so that it can race inside the mountain, lowers the hourly throughput. But, it is 100% happening every single day, randomly.

Based on this, I don't think Disneyland is the park for you. Have you considered Magic Mountain?

Waiting patiently...

I still feel like this is Disney now firing back at the city. Disney desperately needs another hotel for their capacity needs. Completely agree. They 100% need another hotel. Otherwise, people will stay off property anyways. This isn't a bad idea! Both the DL Hotel, and the Grand are actually 4 Diamond hotels already. And, any hotel built on that land will be a 4 Diamond Hotel anyways, because of it's location. I am really hoping that a new version of the hotel is announced after the election. But, also, another moderate hotel would not be a bad idea either. But, I think they cold just expand the Pier hotel and build a new tower, with a different but connected theme. Like the Port Orleans in WDW which has a French Quarter area and a Riverside area.

I can not believe that they are ALREADY starting construction of the new attraction! This turn around is really amazing, and I am so happy that the park is not wasting any time.

I can easily see, every table service restaurant selling alcohol very soon. With the same restrictions: You must consume it within the building it's being served. I know people bring in alcohol ALL the time to the park, so I do not think this would ever equate to there being "Drunk people" wandering around the parks now.

^ An new job study was needed to actually show what the new number of permanent jobs would be, and that was never completed. The hotel has lots of ground level square footage dedicated to replacing those Downtown Disney locations. In fact, the total square footage lost was nearly the same as the amount available in the new plan. And the new plan borke that up into several food locations, instead of 3 restaurants like before. But, none of this even matters now! Last night, the city voted 7-0 to anul the tax contracts with Disney. So, were all back at square one. No one is beholden to anyone to meet any requirements. KTLA.com

Here is the old and new, so its easier to see whats actually changed.

So, in a very surprising turn, Disney went to the city, and asked to be released from ALL current tax agreements. This will allow them to avoid the $18 min wage on the November Ballot, if it were to pass. Id guess someone did the math and found that any savings from these tax credits would be less than having to pay people $18 minimum wage. Bloomberg.com

^That is correct. The original hotel plans are still valid with the rebate. The issue with that is, the city didn't tell Disney that in october when they submitted new plans in a new location. They told them over 9 months later, after Disney had started the project. And, in my opinion, I believe the City did this to try and "Have their cake, and eat it too". Trying to get to a point where Disney would still go ahead with the project because of investments already made, even if the City revoked the rebate. It's the city playing dirty, and I have had enough of it. Moving the hotel does require changes to the agreement, and the city is refusing to make them. There-by voiding the agreement.

I think that last statement is the key point here. It's not whether Disney needs or deserves the tax break, the city already voted to give it to them and they made construction plans accordingly. The city looks bad here canceling the deal on a technicality and it will make companies in the future hesitant to deal with them. Correct!

We have both sides. The City Council is holding the Tax Rebate Incentive hostage from Disney because of the change of address of the hotel. Its that simple. The reason the current councils is doing this, is because the majority of them don't agree that Disney should be getting a rebate. But, no matter anyones current opinion of the rebate, the previous council approved it. And, therefore, it should be honored. If the city does not honor the agreement, then that sets a precedent that the city can/will void an agreement legally made; if the council suddenly decides it is not to their liking. That does not look good to new business or business that wants to expand within the city.

As a Tax payer, who lives in anaheim, this is the way I see it - The city/residence should have never approved the tax subsidy to begin with, it wasn't needed. Or, it didn't need to be 70% rebate for 20 years. But, it was so that's done. Disney, and other companies, applied for the rebate and were approved. The hotel was on Disney property, and is still on disney property. The hotel site was moved roughly 1000ft south from the original site. Changing the address from 1401 to 1601. This address change is what the City is saying gives them the right to deny the tax rebate to disney, because it has a new address. Not that I think Disney needs the tax break, but they were approved for it. Changing the site address is not a valid reason for the city to revoke ANYTHING. The hotel was and still is on Disney property. The only real difference the city is citing as an issue is number of permanent jobs created. The original number was 1150 jobs, when the hotel was NOT sitting on top of Downtown Disney. Now that the hotel will use land once occupied by businesses that are now closed, that number will change. However, there were plans released by the city (and then taken down) that show basically the same total square footage being reintroduced, at ground level, for Downtown Disney Shops and Retail. So, a new study would need to be completed. But, it's likely going to be the same number range. So, again, this is stupid. The current City Council has been against anything Disney that they have the power to control. No matter what it is. Simply because, it's Disney and they feel Disney is just bad. But, Disney is the reason Anaheim is what it is. I do not think Disney should be able to do what ever they want, but pulling this petty bullsh*t with the hotel, and also the eastern gateway is totally wrong! Also, Disney moved the hotel back in October, and the city only now chose to notify Disney there would be an issue. After the project had started and DTD locations had been told to close. The city is cutting off it's nose to spite it's face. Does Disney need a subsidy? No. But the city approved a valid application, that it is now trying to revoke. I am done with this current council and they way they think. There was a final article released last night, saying the city might be willing to work something out. Here's some additional reading if you want to get more in depth with the whole saga this is turning into. www.anaheimblog.net Hotel Hold www.anaheimblog.net Tax Revenue City Notice / Disney Notice https://www.ocregister.com Possible Resolution

These are so cool!!

What are you referencing? Probably the terrible reviews from the ride at SFDK! "Shaky" "Slow" "No interaction with the other side" "Rough" "Uninteresting" Oh! I haven't followed that thread in a bit. Thats unfortunate.

What are you referencing?

This is terrifyingly large! I will ride it, but I'll admit it scares me!! Hahahaha

You mean like how Midway Mania makes Astro Blasters redundant? Or the Star Wars lands and Star Tours? Multiple attractions based on one franchise have co-existed in different parks at the same resort for YEARS now. Why would this be any different? I do agree that there can easily be two Pan attractions. It's just the description of the new ride in TDS, does sound very similar to the ride in TDL, but they can easily both exist. But I am going to guess that the TDL one is replaced with a totally new ride/theme. And honestly, I hope it is.

How cool! I'd love to ride that!

You guys....the Pan Boat ride will likely NOT be a boat ride. Though, you're in a Boat Gondola, it's flying. It basically sounds like a different/updated version of the current ride at the park. So, it's really only two boat rides. And, I'd guess Frozen will be the thrilling one, and Tangled will be the Gentle one.

Ooooo, that's right! I forgot that they had a Peter Pan ride. And this new ride does have a similar storyline So, I would bet it closes and a new ride come to that spot! I am sure some purests will be angry at this thought... but the peter pan rides, though fun and unique, are kinda silly. The DL one gets a pass; it was the first, and crammed into a small space. But, all the other ones had the ability to be something much better, and different. And, they really aren't. So, I am really hoping this new ride will be just that! And the old ride gets gutted! lol.

I think you might be misunderstanding the description. It doesn't say we are battling Captain Hook, it says we fly into a battle, to rescue John. I don't think this will be a shooting ride.

I really hope that the Pan ride is a thrill ride. It would be cool to use that IP!