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That's definitely not true and hasn't been for at least the past few years.

I agree, itwould/will be a good move when all the empty areas are filled up. In regards to the laser show, moving it near ride of steel might be difficult as they would have to make sure none of the lasers go near ride of steel or else it would have to close for the show just like how boomerang, giant wheel, red hawk, blast off, and sling shot currently have to. The whole park is closed by the time the laser show starts. The lines may close at 10, but the rides finish out their lines which sometimes results in Ride of Steel still running cycles until 10:45 pm.

I agree, itwould/will be a good move when all the empty areas are filled up. In regards to the laser show, moving it near ride of steel might be difficult as they would have to make sure none of the lasers go near ride of steel or else it would have to close for the show just like how boomerang, giant wheel, red hawk, blast off, and sling shot currently have to.

The cost of paving new parking lots across the street and building tunnels would be counter productive, at least at this stage when there is still space to expand within the park. If you consider the averages for parking lots, each car takes an average of 200 sq ft on the low end (this includes the aisles, parking spots, roadways in the lots, etc. Darien Lake would need approximately 4,000-5,000 spots. Mutiply that by 200 and that's how much sq ft would appropriately be required. Now the average cost of paving per sq ft is $1.50 - $2.50 Based on these figures, we are talking about $1.5 million just to pave some new lots. Since this would also require a new toll plaza to be built, add a couple thousand more onto the request. The tunnels you propose would also be costly, likely driving the total cost close to $2 million at this point. But wait, since the plan involves moving the front gate there's even more construction needed, add at least another 100,000 onto the bill In the end it would cost likely well over $2 million and that's even before any rides have been added. Now can we stop talking about this ridiculous idea?

I don't believe anything anymore until I see it. There have been too many people saying they "have seen corporate talking in the park" or have "insider sources giving them information". How many users have there been on this thread alone that join, post some rumor claiming they know somebody important, then disappear once they realize their "rumor" (really just pipedreams) didn't come true. I'll just be overwatching the real sources (that don't always make thing public) for any new information. - The assessor's office will publish a sale of the property pretty soon after it is made - The planning board will publish notes from meetings and documents of any plans - Local newspapers/websites sometimes get information first and make small leaks hidden within articles It will also be listed in a SEC filing by CNL so it's a good idea to regularly check the Edgar system for any new filings they post. So far there's been nothing other then stating they have done properties that are being held for sale but it doesn't go as far as disclosing which properties those are.

The moment when you realize that it's very likely Especially knowing they are one of the contenders, (or maybe the only ones), that want to purchase Darien Lake. People, take note... ^ hes dropped more than a few hints that hes in the know about HFE buying DL, so pay attention... Unless he is corporate HFE or CNL, which I somewhat doubt, I wouldn't consider him a reliable source regarding any sale of the park.

Darien Lake's fall events have been announced. This year its called Harvest Fest and the full details can be views on Darien Lake's website: https://www.darienlake.com/harvest-fest/ The event is set to include various live entertainment, food trucks, craft beers, crafts, and other fall themed activities.

Since the beginning of this week and it is expected to be an extended downtime.

The coasters are. However, Giant Wheel, Twister, and of course Ranger are currently down. There isn't an ETA on when Giant Wheel or Twister will be back up.

CNL released their quarterly report the other day. No news on what attraction properties are being sold beyond them stating that 3 of the properties are currently being held for sale. Higher attendance has been confirmed in the report as well, as we have all already noticed. Here is the report if anyone wants to see it. Coasterkid - There are going to be some fall events happening on the weekends during September but the details haven't been released yet.

Yes, depending on the weather and special events I have seen it happen before. When its happened, I've seen parks use some type of auxiliary lot that they overflow into, which is usually grass or gravel. Not sure if CW has any of those areas around.

Where did you hear that CNL is divesting their theme park properties? Is this for certain? If you got this information from a website, I would really appreciate it if you could post a link to the website or at the very least, provide the web address in a new post to this forum. It has been noted in their SEC filings. They aren't just selling off their theme parks, they are selling everything. www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1261159/000119312515112488/d832390d10k.htm

The Grand Theater and Gazebo stage are labeled on the map, so I'm sure there are plans involving those locations. The Galaxy has been left out though, so it looks like that will SBNO this season.

Looks like installation has started! From DL's FB:

I don't know about corporate but even just in a leadership position at a park (ie. manager, supervisor, etc.) will change some of the magic because you start evaluating the operations as you wait in line, ride the rides, walk through the park, etc. You'll spot things like incorrect uniforms (for example. maybe just an untucked shirt) and notice other things that are being done incorrectly more often. I'm still able to go to the park I work at and other parks and have fun, but I'm also usually going with other people who I work with. If I went with a non-employee friend I would probably annoy them by noticing all the little things.

2015 hours have been announced on the website http://www.darienlake.com/park-hours/. Looks like the park won't be open in October this year. The summer hours are pretty much the same as they've been for years now.

I wonder if it has more to do with the skyline as it means it will have less of an impact then if it was clashing with the giant wheel. Basically, it will be less noticeable to those living in the area. The traffic thing is interesting as it indicates a really large attraction which would effect traffic might have a harder time getting approved. Something else that's interesting on that report is the projected cost of $1 million.

I saw that photo in the plan that Darien Lake submitted to Genesee County for the construction, so I would guess DarienLaker probably got it from there. As for that building next to the area where the UFO used to be... Half of it is Subway and the other half is the old queue for the UFO.

I've worked in rides and admissions/parking departments at a park for 3 years. Some days rides was great but other days it was terrible. On the other hand I've loved working in admissions/parking just about everyday. Many of my employees seem to enjoy it as well, but operations can differ from park to park. Another key point is that unless your 18 you won't be able to operate the majority of rides depending on state and company policy. If you're under 18 and hired to work rides you can only attend (which means not press any buttons.. just check restraints and signal clear) or work in kiddie rides. Foods usually has a lot of positions for under 18 years old but that can be a rough department to work in as it tends to get really hot in those stands, a lot of them are cramped, etc. I can also tell you from experience that no matter where you work you will have to deal with complaints. Admissions it will be what someone listed above. Rides will be parents who is upset their kid isn't tall enough to ride or that a ride is closed. Foods will be food that isn't hot or the guest doesn't like it. Its a hospitality field so avoiding hearing at least 1 complaint daily is pretty unlikely. The one thing that is really awesome about working in a park I found is that if you prove yourself to be a good employee you can move up into a leadership role in only a year or two. If that's something you are interested in, it can be great opportunity as you will have a pretty decent job to return to season after season and being able to not have to work while going to school/college.

Then don't. Elitch Gardens was under Premier's control when the ride was named I do believe... Therefore they could very well call it the same thing, but who knows. I do think the name and ideas for it shouldn't really be the main point of the discussion here though. -- Its sad to know that UFO won't be coming back as it was a cool and unique ride, but it also makes sense considering it was probably pretty hard to get parts for it. Sure, the park could have probably have had them custom fabricated but that would have been very expensive and taken a lot of time. Not really worth it for a such an old ride that isn't going to draw in a ton of people on its own anyways.

Yes, one that is a combo theme and water park but pretty small called Clementon Park and Splash World and then one that is just a waterpark called Ocean Breeze Waterpark. They also own a marina.

Not that I know of. It's because these properties are owned by an investment company rather than an operations orientated company. While it is working, but I think it could be debated how well its working.

DarienLaker, Premier is not taking over as the owner. They've already managed Elitch for almost a year now. It should be interesting to see what will come to Elitch during this off-season, as that would be Premiers first real project there. In terms of day-to-day operations, I heard they ran a couple of car load sales this past season. Sk - Premier manages several other CNL properties - Frontier City, Elitch, and a bunch of waterparks. I haven't followed any news on those parks so I don't know of any changes that have occurred at them.

I don't think so because the way its worded indicates differently to me. "seeking attractive exit alternatives for the remainder of our property portfolio" sounds like dumping the properties. If they file an IPO the "company" (CNL Lifestyle Investments) would still exist and hold the properties. But like I said, that line makes it sound as if they don't want to hold the properties. Of course, the first line of that statement regarding the liquidity, indicates that an IPO could still be an option but that isn't their focus right now.

This line in the SEC filing indicates differently: Based on that line, as of right now, they are looking for ways to offload the remainder of their properties while leaving the door open to say that they could consider doing something else (basically the first part of the statement).