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I know I have read it somewhere but why did the park turn off the fire effects?

^ Or maybe they just ran out of black paint.

^ No of course not but it really just does not hold it's own compared to other mine trains. I would take almost any Arrow built mine train over this Zierer Tivoli. Another thing that just feels off is the tire drives, as well as the super long trains which cause the ride to hardly ever change speeds throughout the layout which makes it feel like a large powered coaster the entire ride.

^ That's weird since I can see the image just fine. That is pretty bad. Knowing SFMM I bet they are only using one side of the station.

^ Basically, but I think we can all agree that it was at least a poor attempt at one.

^^ THIS. There are plenty of inverts around but wingrider's are still pretty new. It just makes better business sense to get something most people won't have experienced.

^ I think it really comes down to what corporate is willing to let the park spend on new attractions. Some parks get big attractions almost every year and then there are other parks that hardly ever get attractions (SFA comes to mind).

^ You can theme a mine train to Fiesta Village. Look at how Expedition Everest was fit into it's land. I am just using mine train as the term for the type of ride, not for the theming. I should have clarified that better, sorry.

^ First off, great work. Second, for the windows just use a ruler so that you can get the cross hairs exactly correct. Keep up the great work.

For the flagship park of a major chain MM really does not get the resources it should in terms of running it's attractions. Tatsu should always be running both sides, but hardly ever does. A few of the park's other coasters often go down to one train operation due to a lack of a third train to swap in. It really is just sad. It would be a dream come true if instead of adding a new attraction the park spent it's years attraction budget on a third train for it's major rides and then repainted the ones that are starting to look bad (Scream, Tatsu, ect...). Sadly, we all know that that would never, ever happen.

Well now I am really excited to be going to Disney World next year. This looks absolutely stellar.

^ I think they should consider just taking out Jaguar and building a real mine train utilizing the temple and still threading Monty's loop. Jaguar is a bit rough and the trains are terrible too. Plus the ride looks bad in the park and dosen't come close to being a good mine train/family coaster. I would take SS and PE over Jaguar any day. I would even take Coast Rider over it if it turns out anything like the other wild mouses I have ridden (which it should).

^ This is a good point. They could easily put in some soundtrack or some effects in the tunnel to add to the ride and give time for the other train to get in position. Three train operation could happen if they wanted it to.

Screamscape just reported that Funtown pier may opt out of rebuilding. Apparently clean up costs alone are around 3 million. Really sad to hear. Guess not every pier has the resources to rebuild. www.screamscape.com/html/us_news.htm#NewJersey

^ This is very true. Another advantage to having low to no expectations is that you can be happily surprised. I was even happy with the 2013 addition because it just seems like a great fit for the park when I was expecting a towering roller coaster to further ruin the feel of the park. The addition should do the opposite.

^^^ I really don't think Knott's would take out another water ride when they just got rid of one, especially this being California, a generally very hot state. But again this is Cedar Fair so who knows. I have to agree with the people saying that this 2013 project is to get ready for something bigger. It has been a long time since the last major thrill ride and Knott's has slowed down adding the massive attractions like they did the first few years being owned by Cedar Fair, which makes sense considering how much love this park got in it's early years. I feel that 2014 is going to be the year, not that it being a decade since SB has anything to do with that (being serious).

I think a fiesta village makeover would be great. The area just kinda falls flat along with the boardwalk which hopefully will get better thanks to the addition. As for a dark ride I guess KOD's building makes them most sense but it would have to be rebuilt from scratch. I don't really know of any other location in the park where a dark ride could be fit in unless they used one of the ware houses that are used for haunt mazes and other stuff.

^ I am sure there is a good reason for this. The spare train may be in better shape than the other one so at least they might be sending over the better train.

^ Check Screamscape cause it sounds like it's not getting a new train after all...

Now that we know what is going in PP's spot for 2013 it brings back the question: what's next? There have been rumors about a giga, Ghostrider rehab, and even a dark ride. But with PP's land being used it makes me wonder if a giga can be fit in with the need for the station, transfer, ect... that coasters require, as well as the lift. I don't think we will see a dark ride being added in next year due to a family addition this year and the lack of a space for one (knowing that KOD's building is already used and hazardous upstairs). So I guess that most likely leaves a Ghostrider rehab or some other large coaster being fit in some creative way.

^ It's at the top and there is a picture.

So anyone want to take any guesses as to why the piece of track was removed? http://www.screamscape.com/html/kings_dominion.htm

I think it would be a great idea for the park to fix Ghostrider as the park is low on free space which makes adding new major attractions difficult. It is almost a no-brainer at this point. Hopefully all these rumors about the re-track and new trains turn out to be true.

^ They are building it right now in Dejavu's old spot/proposed spot for RRE.

^ Don't forget the upcharge slingshot.