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UPDATE SATURDAY / MARCH 10 * All leftover wood and debris from the Psyclone demolition have been cleaned up and cleared out from the former Psyclone area. The ride's queue switchback area is the only reminder left of what used to be there. * Psyclone's midway signage has been removed. Photographs of these noted changes can be viewed here. -------------------------------------------------------------------- UPDATE FRIDAY / MARCH 2 * Psyclone is no longer standing, having been dismantled during the last week of February. Only remnants of the attraction that are still present on site are portions of the buildings that housed the transfer/maintenance shed and the loading platform station. * No immediate signs of changes or work has yet been spotted over at Flashback, although we can expect it to be dismantled over the course of the next few weeks now that Psyclone has been "taken care of." Photographs of these noted changes can be viewed on Page 38 of this thread. -------------------------------------------------------------------- UPDATE MONDAY / FEBRUARY 19 * Pre-dismantling has been underway at Psyclone for approximately two or three weeks now. Workers have been removing small components to the ride such as lights, electrical parts, the operating system in preparation for structural dismantling. All Psyclone's vehicles have been moved over to Colossus where they are being stored for the time being. * Nothing has changed in regards to Flashback. Any kind of changes as they happen, will be noted here. Photos of the updates described above may be viewed here and here. -------------------------------------------------------------------- UPDATE TUESDAY / JANUARY 23 * Psyclone to be removed and scrapped sometime around mid-February. (Within four weeks from 1/22/2007, according to park spokeswoman Sue Carpenter). * Flashback to be dismantled and temporarily stored for the rest of the 2007 season. Park explores the option to possibly re-assemble it sometime in the future. Source: LA Daily News -------------------------------------------------------------------- UPDATE MONDAY / JANUARY 22 The park has updated its main ride page at its website and is pubically alerting potential visitors of the situation regarding Psyclone and Flashback. In addition, the park has also removed links to the ride pages from the drop-down menu in the Thrills section, which was somehow missed before. Six Flags Magic Mountain Rides Page -------------------------------------------------------------------- UPDATE FRIDAY / JANUARY 19 Both of the coasters' ride profile pages on the park's website and links to them (except from the Thrill Rides drop-down menu) have all been removed. On the park ride's main page, the park describes the 15-roller coasters (it used to say 17). Six Flags Magic Mountain Rides Page In addition, the park's spokeswoman Sue Carpenter has personally confirmed the dismantling process for both roller coasters. -------------------------------------------------------------------- CEO Mark Shapiro noted in the January 12 live conference call that more focus and money will be put into Magic Mountain and the company's largest properties. Shapiro mentioned a new 3-stop "train/monorail" attraction would be introduced in 2007 at Magic Mountain. He also mentioned that the park would be home to a Coldstone Creamery and a indisclosed branded indoor restaurant this year (think Johnny Rockets at Knott's and Cedar Point). Listen to the Six Flags Conference Call 1/12/2007 PERSONAL SPECULATION: * My assumption is that the new "train/monorail" attraction will be a fully refurbished Metro with a new name and theme. * The recently cleared area out back behind Psyclone and the space freed up by the roller coasters' footprint may be large enough for an elaborate Thomas & Friends or Wiggles World themed area(s) as well as a potential location for either one of the two new proposed food operations.

It's location is so ugly! I used to love to look at pictures of Revolution because of where it was placed and how nicely it used the terrian. Now every decent picture of Revolutions loop has an eye sore in the background. Ew. Get over it. From your tone of voice, you make it apparent that you haven't seen Tatsu at the park up close. It really doesn't look as cluttered hanging over Revolution as most pictures make it look. It actually makes the entire area by Revolution look a A LOT nicer in person. Tatsu is hardly close to being an eyesore. And if that still isn't satisfactory, then you're more than welcome to gawk at the hundreds of photos online of pre-Tatsu Revolution.

If having 17 roller coasters does any kind of good for Magic Mountain, it would be the park's jaw dropping skyline. It's more mesmerizing heading south past the park on Interstate-5. Here's the best picture I could find of this view going down the I-5. It's small and not clear, but you can get an idea of how amazing the park's skyline looks from the freeway, especially with the beautiful mountain backdrop behind it. Other parks that have great skylines as you approach them by car that I've seen are Cedar Point and Knott's Berry Farm.[/img]

I know I'm replying to my own post, but I call Wiggles World or Thomas & Friends! (Now with the official knews and knowing the park will be kept under Six Flags ownership) I doubt that parcel of land is being returned to Newhall for a well project.

^ 1. You're the one who has to get the spell check, not everyone else. You come on here looking for answers and expect answers when people have to guess what you're typing? 2. You look like a complete moron if you don't type correctly when you know you can if you just only tried. And that's not an opinion either, so don't bother rebutting any of this.

The ride itself from after the lift-hill to the final brakes is 49 seconds. Six Flags advertises 3 minutes, but that includes the lift-hill trip, the loading procedure, and unloading procedure.

Anheuser Busch is a company operated by professionals. There won't be any tricking involved.

I read in an online article somewhere (I don't have the link anymore) where a Busch Entertainment spokesman said the company has no interest in acquiring any of the Six Flags properties, especially Magic Mountain. I remember the quote stating how the Anheuser Busch parks target a completely different clientel and in order to bring Magic Mountain up to par with their brand image and quality of their current parks would require a lot of time and investment --- and how the company's focus is primarily building on and improving their current assetts, rather than acquiring new venues. It's wishful thinking to hope Busch Entertainment acquires Magic Mountain. But that's the key phrase. Wishful thinking. It's not going to happen. You can all agree that a Busch take-over of the park would be spectacular and list all the ways that they could manage a change, but in the end, it doesn't overpower the fact that the company isn't going to buy it.

The Childrens' season pass is only valid for children 48" and under. That's the catch. I don't know of any parents neglectful enough to not accompany a child of theirs that's below 48". These kids will be pretty much be stuck hanging out at Bugs Bunny World all day because they're not tall enough to ride anything else -- even Gold Rusher. The kids the park "babysits" are the junior high school and high school kids that are over 48" that can be dropped off for a day at the park sans the presence of mom and dad. The idea is that if they can give away childrens' season passes for free, mom and dad are likely to visit Six Flags more often than if they didn't have the free kids pass. More mom and dad means a stronger family presence at the park, meaning a hope for the increase of in-park-per-capita spending. First smart promotional move I've seen Six Flags pull at Magic Mountain in a VERY long time.

It's not that big of a deal and I'm sure a number of us know that Knott's website has been in "overhaul" ever since...ever. I noticed that they began integrating other park pages to fit with the new home page design, but a lot of it still is in the same format as the old website, which I think for a park like Knott's to own is a bit unexpected and almost unprofessional. For example: GhostRider - http://www.knotts.com/park/tour/gtown/grfacts.shtml Perilous Plunge - http://www.knotts.com/park/tour/brdwalk/plunge.shtml Fiesta Village area - http://www.knotts.com/park/tour/fvillage/index.shtml The Boardwalk area - http://www.knotts.com/park/tour/brdwalk/index.shtml

I'm just speculating here...since Jahan brought it to my attention that the park has recently cleared out the "graveyard/boneyard" behind Psyclone... ...could there be a slight chance that Magic Mountain may soon be home to a Wiggles World or Thomas & Friends themed area? Six Flags has announced that numerous parks will build these children-oriented areas in their parks next year. On the flipside, some are saying the clearing of the area was a sign of Six Flags packing up their bags and signaling the sale of the park to a new operator. However, Six Flags states that the 9 properties may be sold as a bundle, sold individually, or may be kept. In that case, if Magic Mountain is clearing a large parcel of land for a new childrens area, it would be natural to assume that Six Flags may be keeping Magic Mountain under their wing.

Six Flags still intends on an announcement regarding the 9 parks for sale. Be patient. Even if they decide to keep Magic Mountain, they would still make an announcement.

I can see why Shapiro has a beef with the crowd that his parks are attracting. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1509063179

^ No. That piece of track is actually near the center of the transition from the corkscrew to the zero-gravity roll --- right above the coaster's exit ramp. You can see it easily from the loading platform (the station side that faces in the direction towards X and Viper). If anyone remembers, that was the last track piece installed on Tatsu. http://www.rollercoasterpro.com/updates/sfmm4.2.06/DSCN5392.jpg http://p2.rcdb.com/picmax/six-flags-magic-mountain/tatsu57.jpg

^ Who would go out of their way to photoshop cell phones into employee candids just to "sabotage" the employees there? I don't think anybody would.

^ According to the show --- 49 seconds from disengaging the lift to hitting the final brakes. No. The ride WAS dispatching as quickly as 40-45 seconds when it first opened up until around June. I saw it in person --- the queue for the ride was constantly flowing quickly. Then again, I said "when it first opened." They DID. For some odd reason, it aired in Canada before it did in the U.S.

Great update as usual Jahan. Real interesting to see that they cleared out the area behind Psyclone. Can't wait to find out what that's all about. And about Psyclone...I don't know why the park keeps attending to it trying to "fix it." I know there's no real reason for the park to have it razed considering it's mechanically up-to-par, but the ride really is so unpopular that they might as well consider bulldozing it as a means to cutback on funding for staff/maintenance and reallocate that money elsewhere in the park. Then again, Flashback and Metro need to be addressed first before Psyclone is brought up...

http://dsc.discovery.com/tvlistings/episode.jsp?episode=9&cpi=30507&gid=0&channel=DSC January 3, 4, 6, and 10. Check The Discovery Channel website for air times.

Two days later and no responses! Anyway, we have nothing to worry about anymore. Magic Mountain Parkway will remain Magic Mountain Parkway. http://www.dailynews.com/santaclarita/ci_4883385

Looks like a lot of people are opposing it... http://www.dailynews.com/santaclarita/ci_4870449

Few things first... Firstly, a park doesn't deserve an uphill climb. It has to earn it. Secondly, people said the same thing about the park a few months before Tatsu opened. And around June, the ship sank. Fast.

All four Six Flags units have been sold. My guess is all of them will be dismantled within the next few months. http://irmpri.com/current.htm

Yeah, but there's a different selling point and enough differentiation between a 1989/1990's Arrow Looping coaster and a B&M Floorless coaster to warrant the idea of both in one park. The unique open-air coaches are different enough to set two multi-looping coasters apart. The parks market the rides not based around their 7 inversions, but emphasize their open Floorless coaches that provide a sense and feeling of being strapped in a "Flying Chair" --- gimmick or not, that's really marketable and distinct from a traditional sit-down looper. But what would be the selling point of a Batman clone at a park that already has a Vekoma SLC? A B&M Inverted coaster and a Vekoma SLC are both feet-dangling suspended track coasters that go upside-down and have non-swinging coaches that are fixed rigidly to the chasis. Aside from row-per-row seating arrangements, both types are exactly the same type of ride with not even a difference or change significant enough to be marketed as something new. It would just be a pointless move, IMHO. Even in the case of Six Flags Great America's Demon and ShockWave (both were Arrow looping coasters), ShockWave came more than a decade after Demon and was the world's biggest roller coaster upon opening. And aren't most SLC's taller than the Batman clones by a few feet?

^ Well, overlook it because it's been stated more than once or twice where a Busch Entertainment spokesperson commented that the company's vision and clientele do not align with what Magic Mountain is. Something about focusing on their current assetts and growing them rather than pick up a park that would require substantial amounts of funding to bring up to standard with the other properties and what they have to offer in reflection of the Anheuser Busch brand.

It's not for sale. It was all a mixup. The park's PR gal Sue Carpenter contacted a few enthusiast sites and stated that Superman The Escape is not for sale, Freefall is.