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Mr. Freeze at Six Flags St. Louis had a really cool loading system. It was very interesting to watch it run two trains.

Just got this too. I'm so fricking stoked.

Yep that was the one. Thanks!

I completely agree. I wrote an article reviewing Maverick for another site, and all of the feedback either totally agreed, or thought I was insane for thinking so highly of what they considered to be too rough of a ride with crappy restraints. I think Maverick is just polarizing, and I think a person's size, height, and disposition all factor in to whether they enjoy it or not. Personally, it's one of my all time favorite rides.

It's a good hands up ride, there's no doubt about that.

Totally respect your opinion, but you don't like the restraints on Raging Bull? I don't know that I've heard that before, most people, myself included seem to love the B&M hyper restraints. I'm curious to know what you don't like about them.

I too would be quite curious, and would love to see a Windseeker (or anything else) at my home park. Good on Carowinds for getting cool large rides in such quick succession.

I recently had to pierce a guy who told me one of the stupidest stories I've ever heard, and then verified it with a cellphone pic. This idiot was on acid at Cedar Point and puffed his gut out far enough during the restraint check that he was able to pretty much stand on Millennium Force. He had the girlfriend operated cellphone pics to prove it, not that I cared to see them. I really shouldn't wear roller coaster shirts to work, even though normally it's a good ice breaker. And the log flume video is ridiculous too.

I will happily take anything new (or used!) at my home park. That said, this would really make Shivering Timbers look height impaired. Maybe a windseeker would mean we need some taller coasters too!

It's an editorial, different emotions can be expressed.

Just about every modern B&M has trims that grab, not just CF ones. Like Raging Bull... The only bad trim in Illinois.

Well obviously!

I do agree, but I think that's where the weird factor comes in. My favorite type of ride is a "hyper coaster" style layout. Judging by the way the big yearly polls usually turn out, most enthusiasts agree, or at least those willing to join a poll. I think most of us love the idea of a park having both of these types(styles?)of coasters, its just that the proximity of opening dates is weird. That said, is there any park out there with a hyper that we wouldn't like to also have a giga?

Ugh. That disgusting thing shivered my timbers bad enough to have to unleash a thunderhawk at MIA. And of course the wife told me I was a moron for getting it. Never again.

Whether MIA deserves one or not has nothing to do with my desire for them to get one, regardless of the unlikelihood. As for the ride itself, I think it looks like a riot, but I am definitely not bored with B&M hyper coasters (perhaps because I've only ridden two? Most likely). I do really want to know how long the ascent to the top is going to take, could be pretty crazy.

As a resident of Michigan, I agree completely.

Right, exactly. With good ride ops the B&M hypers are serious people eaters.

1500 people an hour versus 1000 per hour is a huge difference. As slow as I've seen both S:UF and Manta load, and as fast as I've seen DB and RB load, I would find it hard to compare them at all. Not to mention, I've seen hyper coaster crews really push through crowds, like getting challenges from other parks after a particularly fast hour to try and beat the other parks new per hour record.

Flyers load much slower than a B&M hyper, there is no comparison to be had there. My experience with floorless trains is fairly limited, but neither of the two that I've been on loaded anywhere near as fast as what I've seen done on a hyper. Again, my capacity theory could be wrong, I just don't see a flyer being the solution. Behemoth: 1,545 riders per hour Tatsu: 1,600 riders per hour Loading time may be longer, but capacity is as good or better. I'm with SharkTums below. I've never seen a flyer load anywhere near as fast as that.

Rajin Cajun and Dark Knight at Great America. Definitely some similarities there, as well as a few differences.

Flyers load much slower than a B&M hyper, there is no comparison to be had there. My experience with floorless trains is fairly limited, but neither of the two that I've been on loaded anywhere near as fast as what I've seen done on a hyper. Again, my capacity theory could be wrong, I just don't see a flyer being the solution.

Is it possible that the reason that a coaster so similar to another ride already in the park is being built has to do with the incredible amount of people that CW sees every year? This is a unique--for B&M--coaster, that is going to dominate the skyline, but also dominate crowds. With the fast loading system they've seen success with from Behemoth, it's possible they wanted to accommodate as many guests per hour as they could, something well accomplished on a B&M hyper, in my experience. This is a different ride with many similarities to one already in the park, so on the outside it seems like a mistake. It could be that there were concerns over having a ride that would force enormous lines on a park desperate for a new ride. No coaster kills a crowd like a B&M hyper, and there are going to be enormous crowds drooling over this thing. Again, all theory, no substance, but the queuing on this will be fast, and upkeep should be minimal, two things the exec's at CF should feel confident in expecting from a B&M with just the clamshell style restraints.

I'm sure Robb and camera will be there soon enough at the behest of the park. Somebody has to film the new stuff, may as well get the best.

If I find out this was meant for Michigan's Adventure I'm going to start throwing things.

Very cool, I'm super excited about this! Guess its finally time to get a passport. On a side note, this is just weird as hell for me. I write fiction, and actually had my first novel published earlier this year. The sequel to that novel, and a novel my editor ultimately decided not to publish in lieu of another one I had written, had a theme park featured as a place of interest. This fictional park was called Pine Island, and featured a pair of new roller coasters that led my protagonist there. One of those coasters was called Leviathan, and it was a 300 foot hyper built by a fictional version of B&M. I wrote this in September of 2010. Not that that I think I'm prescient by any means, just wanted to share what I thought was a nifty and weird story.