QuakerOaties Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 I'm not sure how I feel about this movie. On one hand it seems like propaganda but on the other hand it seems to be a "tribute". Mark "I definitely won't be seeing it though" Luskus
DATman Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 ^This is most definitely not propaganda. Propaganda is like the WWII series, Why We Fight. Propaganda's are political and biased (see Farenheight 9/11), which this film is not.
QuakerOaties Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 It could absolutely be interpreted as propaganda! Propaganda may be biased, but it is not always political. Propaganda is the spread of information for a cause. Heres why it could be interpreted as propaganda. The war on Iraq is a highly controversial event. By releasing this film and giving a theatrical, emotional touch to the chain of the events that lead to the war, more people may be inclined to lend their support to the war effort. Yup, that sounds like propaganda to me. Do I think it was intended that way? Not necessarily.
CoasterExpert13 Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 I think that the movie should indeed be released...and with the permission of the families, who's to stop it? I doubt the movie was soley made to make money. They are trying to show everyone, what happened duirng that fatal day. Yet we all know what happened, we don't really know. I watched the A&E movie version of the United Flight 93 storty about a few months ago, and was very sad and touching...tear-eyed me a little.
kingdanny Posted May 2, 2006 Author Posted May 2, 2006 Exactly. Not everyone knew the story of UA93. My friend barley knew about it. he thought that the plane was shot down. The movie makes you wish that the ending was different. I know some people that forgot completly about 9/11. when they saw the movie, they said that 9/11 was made up. It's so sad that the passengers came so close to saving their lives. They did the right thing about not going down without a fight. My dad is angry that passengers on flight 175 and 77 knew what was going to happen but didn't do anything.
DATman Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 It could absolutely be interpreted as propaganda! Propaganda may be biased, but it is not always political. Propaganda is the spread of information for a cause. The way you put it, King Kong could be propaganda. It spreads information for the purpose of telling a story. You're being too literal. (sorry if I sound like a jerk, it's just that I had a whole class dedicated to propaganda). Now, when has there been a propaganda film that isn't in some way political or biased in some way. This film doesn't seem biased in any way to me. It seems to just tell the story, and not really take too much of a side that it is incredibly obvious.
Teddymonster Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 My dad is angry that passengers on flight 175 and 77 knew what was going to happen but didn't do anything. It's really easy to say that you would respond to something differently when you're not in the same situation as the person you are criticizing. I'm sorry he sees things that way.
kingdanny Posted May 2, 2006 Author Posted May 2, 2006 But wouldn't the people on those flights be in the same position as flight 93? They had hijackers take over the plane just like 93 so they could have done something. If you watched that 9/11 conspiracy video on another thread, it's kind of obvious that the people knew what was going to happen. Here's a link www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23716
rollermonkey Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 Ooh, somebody mentioned Fahrenheit 9/11! If you want a little conspiracy theory, here's my story: Disclaimer: I'm in the US Navy, and I was in the Persian Gulf for almost all of 2003. I was on a minesweep and we went about 40 nautical miles up the Khawr abd-Allah. I had no problem with our mission, or why we were in the country in the first place. Now I'm stationed in Japan, and when Fahrenheit 9/11 was released on DVD (it wasn't shown at the base theater.) I went down to the base exchange to see about purchasing a copy. They didn't have any, and I asked a sales lady if they had gotten any in. She said "Yes, we got four copies!" I said, OK, and asked if they were going to get any more. Her reply was "I'm not sure, documentaries don't usually sell very well." I got my copy through an online store. A few weeks later Super Size Me came out on DVD. How many copies did the base exchange get? 128. Yeah. The Navy would rather we watch a movie about fast food than an opposing viewpoint about Bush's response to what happened that day. I'd say I was going to watch United 93, but it probably won't be shown on the base, and they probably won't get many copies in the exchange. I guess I'll just have to get a copy somewhere else.
Teddymonster Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 But wouldn't the people on those flights be in the same position as flight 93? They had hijackers take over the plane just like 93 so they could have done something. If you watched that 9/11 conspiracy video on another thread, it's kind of obvious that the people knew what was going to happen. Here's a link www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23716 I don't think it really matters, as it's easy to cast judgement when you weren't even there to experience what happened. As far as I'm concered, I don't buy into EVERYTHING the media tells us as being fact. Maybe if you opened your mind a little, you would sympathize for those people as opposed to criticizing them.
kingdanny Posted May 2, 2006 Author Posted May 2, 2006 I'm not critisizing them. I had a family friend in 9/11.
haiderodes Posted May 3, 2006 Posted May 3, 2006 i saw this movie the other night...let me tell you it is very UNhollywood. to me it was very respectful and not like any normal motion picture. it is almost like a documentary (although with a lack of narration). it jumps right in there. theres no cute dialog or personal quips. theres no large pan shots to set up scenes. to me it seemed very raw. no computer generated planes or huge special effects. i have watched the A&E version a few times and let me tell you that one was far more hollywood. it was still respectful, but that one seemed to focus more on the people and thier backstory. it focused on the families. United 93, on the other hand, seemed to involve more about the logistics of the day and how things played out. i can see how some probably cant handle this, but for me it was something i really wanted to see. parts were frustrating, but im glad i saw it.
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