BORG Malfunctions...

[Masked_Maverick]

We Love Vekoma, Oh Yes We Do!

We Love Vekoma, As Much As You!

Oh Vekoma We Love You!

 

Hey Ryan mind if I put that in my sig.?

[xascher]

Question,

Do Vekoma Flying Dutchman's use a hydraulic, or pneumatic, system to hold the cars back, or is it a latching system, or both. I always would have picured it to have a hydraulic pull back/push up system, then some type of "hook" ti secure it.

 

Clarify?

[rctlilman]

Yea, The guy operating it had no business operating it.

 

P.S. Check out skytower's new paint job!

[Alexander Nagel]

Yea, The guy operating it had no business operating it.

 

P.S. Check out skytower's new paint job!

 

 

First off I don't really buy the park's reasoning that a button was just pushed

 

what about the skytower's paint job it looks as bad as Knott's. Plus it was just repainted a few year ago. Why am I not suprised, I miss Paramount Parks and this buyout has sucked from day ONE!

 

 

I have I liked Cedar Fair parks i've been, but I do hate a lot of the way they do things. Also I loved Paramount Parks the way they were...

[Guest]

The operator cannot unlock restraints after the train has started to move and is not lined up with the platen/current collector/whatever Borg uses. Whats even more fishy is the operator should not be able to unlock the seats AT ALL, unless the ride is running in manual mode and the operator is playing around with the maintenence mode buttons but I doubt that hapenning as the ride probably would have malfunctioned before it did. The rides PLC technically wont allow that train to be sent, and if for some reason this was the case like Carowinds says than that operator is knowingly sending people to what could be very very dangerous. I highly doubt thats what hapenned.

 

If what the park is saying is true (to be taken literally) it had to be some smart guy who was riding and reached in and unlocked it by themself. Thats also very unlikely though.

 

The park isnt being clear at all and leaving lots of possibilities (not that i'd expect them to give any details). Theres pretty much no chance of it being an operator error, either there is a hole in the seat configuration somewhere with an actuator pin and a rider did it or it was a mechanical failure, but hopefully the ride isnt SBNO too long.

[bgwfreak]

Scott at the park explained what happened (since the media didn't bother to quote him correctly.)

 

http://www.carowindsconnection.com/community/index.php?showtopic=1574&view=findpost&p=20351

[Vallean]

If what is mentioned in that message is true, which is very possible from a formal technical POV, it's another shame for Vekoma engineers and a proof of very serious PLC (Programmable Logic Controller) programming flaws. Roller coaster automation systems should (and new one shall) be designed to meet at least SIL 3 (Safety Integrity Level 3) according to the IEC 61508 standard. Unfortunately many roller coaster control systems, especially those based on dual conventional (i.e. non-stafety) PLCs do not meet SIL 3 requirements. Vekoma designed some restraint monitoring systems which I still wonder how they passed the safety inspections.

The most basic safety feature you test is to guarantee that retraint locking and, if applicable, tilt locking can't be affected in ANY way once the train starts to move even while collector brushes haven't left the contact strips in the station.