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  1. If you do not mind spoilers, the county requires that concrete foundations which includes coaster footers be filed with the county. These documents are public records and coaster fans will know very quickly after the park files the blueprints. With Mystic Timbers several individuals went to the county offices and requested to see the documents and posted pictures of them online. They were filed June 16th and appeared online on the 17th. This is required before the park can pour any concrete. So before we see a single footer we should already know the layout, and model for certain and since we already know most B&M coasters feature a 45 degree lift hill we will be able to calculate height pretty accurately.
  2. About the Glokenspiel, I believe kinda like the fountain the work is not done yet. Not sure how much work is left but I have heard the fountain will not be fully operational until Memorial Day weekend. Which is also when the new fireworks show debuts, they are still doing the show from last year.
  3. X-Works is generic, it is used so enthusiasts cannot easily figure out where the track is going. The stickers had park names at one point years ago until some parks announcement was spoiled.
  4. Totally not disappointed in the coaster, it’s a fantastic ride, I just built it up to much in my head. I had assumed I was going to miss it and kept hoping for the best and looking at construction photos and then was surprised when the opening announcement occurred and I knew I should be able to ride it. Then with it being the end of my trip I was really looking forward to it for two weeks. I wrote that on my flight home and I think I did a really poor job explaining myself. The coaster is fantastic, I just put it on a pedestal it could live live up to before riding. In comparison the coaster that totally blew me away was Back Daaan at Tokyo Dome City actually, I went in having not done any research, no videos, pictures, etc had zero idea what to expect, and I was surprised by how good it was. Hakuegi is a much better coaster but you can totally do too much research.
  5. I am just finishing up a two week trip to Japan and visited Nagashima Spa Land yesterday. I was able to ride Hakugei three times during my visit. It’s a great coaster and a fantastic addition to the park. But I went in expecting too much and I guess I am a little disappointed. It’s possible it was the temperature or the wind, because it was very windy and sadly Steel Dragon 2000 never opened, and the high was around 60. I want to ride it again on a hot summer day sometime but I know it’s likely to be a few years. But for me both Steel Vengence and Lightning Rod are still better. Also every time I visit Japanese parks I realize just how poorly the US parks handle loose items. Hakugei has free lockers under the station half way up the stairs. Leave your items in a locker right before you reach the station and get them back right after you get off the ride.
  6. Keep in mind at most the park can only sell a few hundred season long fast lane passes. My guess is somewhere between 500 and 1000 maximum. For the number of passes that can be sold, $849 makes perfect sense. Last year Kings Island sold out of season long fast lane at $499 until they opened up a second wave part way through the season. At this point the next step is a chain wide fast lane product, $999 sounds about right to me. Not sure it will be offered, or if it would be worth it if you do not live in Ohio.
  7. That is ONE year in which we know the increase was due to the hotels, I am happy to concede that it was likely due to Cedar Point, and likely a lot bigger than 6%. The problem is that we have no idea how the hotels did in the other years because without more quotes like this we do not have enough information to separate those numbers. My point was that we do not have an accurate reflection of the amount made by JUST the hotels. In 2011 for instance like my numbers show 30% and likely more of the out of park revenue came from sources other than the hotels. I will also agree there is no point to this because you do not seem to understand that this category is way too broad to be used in this way. There is more than just hotels stuck in it, we have the marina which sells fuel, the restaurants outside of Knotts, the gift shops outside of Knotts, sponsorship deals which would include the funds paid by Coca-Cola for exclusivity. For instance how do you remove the change from Red Gold to Heinz which occured in 2015? This is a sponsorship deal the one with Red Gold was for 5 years and ended in 2014, did the chain receive less or more money, is it per a year or a lump sum? No details of the transactions were released as far as I know, so how can you possibly correct for changes like this.
  8. Nothing that your showing changes the fact that you do not know how much of that is actually even from hotels, let alone the ones at only Cedar Point. Go back and look at older annual reports, compare the accommodations and other, with the out of park spending category which you are trying to use. The difference between the two is huge, 2011 for instance, accommodations and other was 83 million, while out of park was 117.5 million. In that year alone it was at least 34.5 million dollars from non-hotel out of park sources and likely more because we have no way to determine how much of the 83 million was purely accommodations. There is a LOT of money from other out of park sources which you have no way to separate. That category is not mostly the accommodations at Cedar Point, there is just too much other stuff in it for you to use it to make the kinds of comparisons your trying to make.
  9. Here is how Cedar Fair defines out of park revenue. “Out-of-park revenues are defined as revenues from resort, marina, sponsorship, online transaction fees charged to customers and all other out-of-park operations.” Feels like there are way too much lumped into one category to try to act like it’s all Cedar Point. Also 3 other parks have camp grounds, and there is the hotel at Knott’s.
  10. No one is saying they will never build another coaster, no one is saying that there are no projects going on, or that they are not laying the groundwork for future attractions. People are saying your timeline and reasoning why it is a 2020 coaster makes no sense. Look at Valravn, the good time theatre was removed at the end of the 2014 season, just like the Cedars dorm was removed after the 2018 season. Valravn opened in 2016. If a new coaster is replacing Cedars, the work involved in moving the road, expanding the boundaries of the park etc, will likely occur this summer and construction on the coaster would start next year for a 2021 opening. During the construction on Steel Vengeance several people kept claiming it would open a year before it did, even during the 2017 season there were a LOT of claims it would open by Halloweekends. It ended up barely being ready for the 2018 season. Your arguments make about as much sense as those posters did. Your throwing a bunch of feces at a wall and saying see it says 2020, when the rest of us are just seeing a shit stained wall. I have been making this argument for several years now but here is what I feel the most likely schedule for coaster installs over the next 5 years at KI and CP. 2020- KI coaster, 150th at CP 2021 - CP coaster 2022 - KI 50th 2023 - KI Coaster 2024 - CP coaster Kings Island has already filed paperwork with the county showing a project with B&M which was expected to start in 2018 and finish in 2020, then a month or two after that paperwork was filed the park announces the closure of Firehawk, that is evidence complete with a timeline. Nothing that you have posted is even close to the evidence we already have had for months about a project at Kings Island.
  11. I do not know exactly what interview you are referring to here. But I have not seen anything from Cedar Point, or Cedar Fair which suggests whatever is coming will be a 2020 attraction. I have seen interviews with Rob Decker in which he states that coasters are not installed on a predetermined schedule and that they are done for business reasons. Here is the problem there is no business case that I can think of in which a park would install a big new ride in a major anniversary year. The anniversary will be the focus of 2020 and there is a decent chance there will be construction during the anniversary and the ride will open the following year. Anniversaries already drive attendance on their own, no need to spend $30 million to build a big new ride to try to bring people to the park. But you can tease the guests with construction on a big new ride and you open it the following year to try to get the guests to come back. I cannot think of a single amusement park which opened a big ride in an anniversary year, but I can think of several which opened a ride the year after the anniversary. For instance Dollywood had its 30th in 2015 and opened Lightning Rod in 2016.
  12. The resort runs two outlet stores at local outlet malls. They send all the clearance merchandise to those stores, they frequently receive items from festivals and holidays. Your looking for Disney’s Character Warehouse. There are a number of fake Disney outlets around Orlando but the real ones are run by actual WDW employees. There is one in an outlet mall on I-Drive and at the Orlando Premium Outlets. I have run into items from Shanghai Disneyland, and from the Disneyland resort at the two outlet stores in Orlando. I asked an employee and they claim those resorts do not have outlet stores and they just ship leftover items to Orlando to sell. Seems strange to me but I do not have a logical explanation.
  13. I ran across the color version on another forum so I figured I would share. Here is the original appearance of the train for the Beast. According to posters with more knowledge of the history of the ride this was done 100% by PTC because the park was still undecided on what they wanted it to look like. So it might not even be fair to say its the original appearance. PTC has never painted the trains on the Beast, the trains were delivered to the park with only primer applied and the park painted them in house and has done all maintenance for the trains in house.
  14. They were replaced with the sculpted logo they have today before the ride opened due to the park expecting a lot of media coverage. Basically they wanted the rides name and logo in the pictures. The ride did open with the leather seats complete with buttons you see in the photo, but it was replaced pretty quickly in I believe the first season. If your wondering about the headlights, consider that there is an entire Beast lead car out there somewhere. The lead car of the 4th train was completely refurbished and given to Ruth Voss when she retired. Voss was the head of Media Relations at the park when The Beast was built and is credited with coming up with the name. She passed away more than 20 years ago, so there should be a real Beast lead car out there somewhere, likely in a private collection.
  15. That’s from IAAPA 1978 and was the original design for the train for what we know as The Beast, although it is also before the park had decided on a name, they changed the look after the ride was named.
  16. One of the designers of the Beast, Jeff Gramke, still works for the park and has discussed this at enthusiast events before. The maintenance staff has done all the modifications to those trains, from shorting the cars, to changing the lap bars, adding the seat belts, and the headrests. Those trains are the original trains, or at least pieces of them are I have no idea what percentage is original at this point. I recommend going to Coasterstock and asking him yourself. He is doing a Q&A during the event this year. Although if you have been in previous years he has explained in the past why the cars were shorted and how it was done.
  17. I suspect you already have. The current trains are actually the original trains, the parks maintenance staff cut the 4th row off the cars and turned them into the 3 row cars. When the ride first opened it had 4 trains with 5 cars each, when they shorted the cars they scrapped the fourth train and used it to add an additional car to the remaining 3 trains.
  18. https://twitter.com/Scott_Erickson/status/1087900009541128192 So a composer who has done work for Disney is working on a project for Kings Island. Fountain show, Fireworks show, or station music? I am leaning towards new fireworks show. I assumed they were just going to use classical music for the fountain shows.
  19. While guests might overlook the pavers. The concrete wall surrounding the fountain has been removed, they are replacing and adding additional fountain nozzles which will be computer controlled and feature LED lighting. The pump room under the band stand is being replaced, and the band stand is being totally rebuilt with a larger stage. I would like to think people will notice the fountain shows set to music. So far it sounds like a nice upgrade.
  20. I like Fun Spot, and even have an annual pass, but thats way too much time. Do them in the evening after another park. For instance SeaWorld typically closes at 6, sometimes 7 this time of year, go hit one of the Fun Spot locations afterwards because it is open until midnight most evenings. Universal will be open a little later but even still only until 7 or 8. For Universal staying at one of the three original hotels on-site like the Hard Rock hotel includes unlimited fast lane usage. You get it all day from the day you check-in until the end of the day you check out so if you stay one night you get unlimited for both days of your visit. If there is a discount ticket offer for the hotel, it might be worth considering due to the fastline even though the hotel is expensive. Although this time of year you likely do not need it. This is only true at Hard Rock, Portofino Bay, and Royal Pacific Resort. Good ticket deals to Universal are rare, as a warning if you are a big Potter fan there is one ride, the train that goes between the two parks which requires a park to park ticket. If you do decide to drive to the parks, the cost of an annual pass for one party member is typically worth it due to parking, and discounts on merchandise and food. Their best offer is typically extra days free, for instance get a 4 day ticket for the price of a 2 day ticket. 3. Sounds correct to me, I have used these tickets in the past and they can be a good deal, and I like the food at SeaWorld and Busch Gardens.
  21. There is not much the park could do. The park banned drones flying above the park but since the location is near enough to Great Wolf Lodge, there will be people with drones who do not even have to fly them above the park to get pictures. Also recently an enthusiast in the area who has access to a plane took demolition pictures of Firehawk. But as of right now the only obvious construction work is the dorm, and the demolition of Firehawk.
  22. I suspect the park is using their Winterfest budget to pay for park infrastructure upgrades. Last year for Winterfest the park installed a new computer control system which can control the lighting for the entire park. Plus RGB lighting on some paths and International Street. This year they installed similar lighting on Racer and Mystic Timbers and I suspect other locations I did not notice. Last years upgrades were what made the fireworks show this year a possibility. Otherwise it would have just been the same old show, just play some pop music and launch a bunch of fireworks.
  23. They have 2 locations. We went to the Fairfield ohio location. I guess the other location is not as big from what we were told. I went shopping at Jungle Jims over the weekend and ran into a manager and asked him. According to him the size difference is minor, Eastgate is actually the larger of the two, but we are talking 215,000 sq ft. vs 185,000 sq ft., except they used the extra space to make the aisles wider so he believed they both have about the same number of products. For people who have never been to either, a super walmart is on average 179,000 sq ft, so either Jungle Jims is a massive grocery store. If you want to just go shopping, visit the Eastgate location, it is closer to the park and has fewer customers and wider aisles so it feels more like you are shopping at a typical grocery store, except that is what the problem with the store is, it has random huge statues, boats, etc., but it is not the insanity of the original. But if you want the whole experience, go to the original store in Fairfield. Good luck getting two carts past each other in an aisle, but there are just so many more things to look at around the store, plus finding your way through the store is an adventure by itself. Either way both have an international food section which feels like it is as large as a normal grocery store.
  24. The monorail works and is used for special events. The other station is next to the event space on the second floor. It is extremely rare to see it being used.
  25. Legally Fox is still in charge until the merger closes. This is expected to happen on January 1st, 2019. But Fox has been making a ton of moves to clean up contracts and stop anything which cannot be finished before the merger occurs. But at this point in time Disney is supposed to have zero say in the contract or its negotiation. Although that’s rarely completly true, Fox executives know how Disney operates and are likely working towards what they think or know what Disney wants. From a quick read through of the lawsuit it’s pretty obvious Genting is in violation of the contract. The only question that needs answered is if it really is Fox’s fault that it was unable to meet the deadlines. A lot of the complaints sound pretty standard for attractions based on IP. I think a lot of the problems are due to Genting having zero experience building attractions based on IP. They own Universal Singapore but Universal would have handled everything. I would not be surprised if the companies do work it out in the end. Disney has shown that they are willing to work in good faith on contracts which they inherit through mergers. But I am amazed that either company thought they could build an IP based park for only $130 million.
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