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Hmmmm, interesting on them dimming the lights at the Rollercoaster restaurant, they did not do that at Foodloop in Europa when we were there! I think Joel loved that place as much as any coaster, lol. If/when we make it to Alton Towers, Wicker Man is definitely my most anticipated coaster so happy to hear it was really good.

Yep. Saw that yesterday too. Lots of chatter on the FB page about it as well. It will make the coaster last longer and be more rideable for lots of people, as well as be more cost effective for the park in the long run, so overall I'm fine with it; but it will alter the feel of the ride. Curious to see how much they put in. Also, while I admit it was clearly a pipe dream at this point it does pretty much shut the door on any discussion of an RMC conversion for a long time.

I think that is correct on the chariots being last, I seem to remember it that way as well from the restoration demo we got when they were first starting the project. There is supposed to be a carousel only Friday update in early March so we will hopefully get a status update then.

Well I got an email that says my memberships are going up to $22.99 which is hilarious because it's less than I pay now. I mean only by a buck but still. Also, got notified that they are taking away the rewards points which I could care less about but compensating with an extra bff which I am much more likely to use. All just signs to me that they are going to announce one pass and/or membership for ALL the parks sometime this year.

And just like that my last post is partially invalid, lol. I actually received this update, maybe the email issue is finally fixed ?(I probably shouldn't talk about it out loud and jinx it) Anyway I'm not sure anyone cares about the rewards program being paused, it really didn't get you much. I maybe used rewards once for a discount on a t-shirt. Interesting that they are throwing everyone an extra bff, but the important part of this is that they are clearly implying that some new passes/memberships to cover all the parks will be announced this season, which I think most of us were anticipating. Dear Passholders and Members, We’ve heard your feedback and are excited to share that Six Flags Passholder Rewards is evolving to create a better, easier, and more rewarding loyalty program for you. We look forward to sharing a glimpse at what the future of loyalty looks like across the legacy Cedar Fair and Six Flags portfolio soon. In the meantime, Six Flags Monthly Rewards will be paused effective March 1, 2025. Any existing Passholder Rewards with remaining validity will be honored until their listed expiration date in your mobile app. 2025 Season Passholders with a purchase date up to February 17, 2025, will receive one complimentary Bring-A-Friend ticket. 2025 Memberships purchased up to February 17, 2025, will receive two complimentary Bring-A-Friend tickets.* We look forward to seeing you during the 2025 season for thrills and family fun, including a lineup of new entertainment offerings.

I haven't checked prices in a while because I have no reason too, but we are grandfathered in at $24 a month which gets us entry, preferred parking, 2 meals, a snack, unlimited drinks, one bff a year, the various merch discounts and 4 skip the lines a visit at every legacy SF park. Not sure how that compares but for us at the moment it's a pretty good deal. This year we did get the add on for the legacy CF parks, although that only gets us entry and regular parking, no food, but it was only $100. On the other hand if there has been any update to that I have to check the app or website for benefits to find out because I cannot for the life of me successfully get them to change my email from the now defunct one that I used when I first purchased the memberships so I never get any sort of update emails anymore. That is despite about a million attempts to do it myself online, several phone calls where they assured me it was taken care of and at least one in person visit to pass services where they also assured me it was taken care of ?

I'm still very very curious to see if the memberships survive past this season. Now that we are into the first full year of the merger I keep thinking they will come up with one pass to rule them all but I may be fruitlessly speculating; and I'm not necessarily wishing them to go away because the price we are locked in at for what we get is really a very good value, just a bit surprised they have lasted this long.

Despite what some on here might think or be sarcastic about; the updates on FB are very well received by the populace and as I've said before are only a win/win situation. If you think they are boring and/or not important, that's totally fine and I would recommend you not waste your time viewing or commenting on them. Spending a lot of time publicly and vociferously denouncing things really just says that it is actually important to you, or that you sadly crave attention in weird ways, or both, or whatever. For those that enjoy the updates, which seems to be the vast majority, they are good PR which only boosts the popularity of the park thus making it likely to increase interest/attendance which is beneficial for everyone in the end. Providing as much information as possible is usually not a bad thing.

I personally wouldn't have any problem with that, although I'm not sure how big a logistical pain in the ass it would be for the park. Price increases are definitely a way to cull the herd a bit and the park can legit say it is due to demand and no one would be able to argue with that. I do agree that privileges have been abused or perhaps in my view very very unappreciated. I have seen entitled behavior amongst some coaster enthusiasts increase (of course I guess you could say the same in general across all walks of life) but not necessarily more people feeling entitled but rather those that veer that way getting louder and more insistent. As we were leaving an event very late one night I was thanking all the employees on the way out for staying so late for us to have fun, which I could tell they appreciated, and another attendee kind of mocked me and said "you know they get paid right?".........ummmm, ok, doesn't mean you can't exhibit some gratitude. Geeez.

Man I hope some of these changes extend to the other legacy SF parks! I've been waiting for the paper cup option for a long time, the refillable cups are such a pain to carry around. And as far as most SF food, for the most part it can only get better, and while burgers/pizza/fingers are a rather dull "improvement" and I would like to see some different stuff......at this point I'll take it if they are truly better. Although I would sure love a grilled cheese stand like at KI; Tom & Chee is the greatest grilled cheese that ever was or will be and I won't hear anything bad about it!

Thank you Bert for the invite!! This will be the first time I have gone to a theme park since my son was born without him, lol. However, he's an adult now and will have to deal with it. We were with Bert the only other time he was at the park and not only did we get rained out, we also went on a day open to school groups and had to deal with about a million middle and high schoolers that vastly outnumbered the adults in the park. Nobody wants that. Good reminder why I retired from my middle school teaching job as soon as I was eligible and now just work a couple days a week with elementary kids.

Oooooh, yes! The return of the running lights would be awesome.

Glad to see they are continuing with the Friday winter updates. I've stated before and still believe that is only a win/win situation and the comments seem to be mostly positive. As far as the Boss goes, I've always thought they neutered it by taking out the helix. For me it was the best part of the ride and the removal kind of messed up the pacing and forced a more extreme mcbr. On the roughness factor, yes it is rougher than it used to be, obviously, but I am 56, not in terrible shape but past my best shape days and while I notice it more than I used to when riding, it doesn't bother me afterwards or anything. I find the best thing to do with rough coasters is ride like a drunk person, trying to brace or hang on tight makes it worse. I would love an RMC conversion, but that's because I am an RMC fan and I realize that appears to be a quickly fading pipe dream; therefore, I would be happy with a Gravity group retracking if it prolongs the life expectancy and improves the ride experience. If I had to choose though, and hopefully they will give attention to both, I want the resources put into maintenance for Eagle. This is THE classic woody in the park and since she will be turning 50 in 2026 I would really love to see her looking her best. I mean at least give her a fresh red, white, and blue paint job. Please.

OMG, Legoland Deutschland, lol! When we were waiting in line for Maximus one of the ride ops almost got in a fist fight with a rider. It was kind of hilarious watching them get right in each other's faces and yell a furious barrage of German. Unfortunately, it slowed an already long line due to poor ops down even more and amazing to us no supervisor of any sort showed up to calm the argument or discipline the employee or remove the rider or whatever. I would have totally done the log flume but we had a pretty short window that day and were going right to the Munich airport for an evening flight to Poland so really didn't want to be wet under those circumstances.

I can tell you that I once listened to a co-worker (like a lot of GP he only knew his local park, in this case SFSTL, and Disney/Universal) go on and on about how amazing and scary and spectacular the vertical lift was and that there just isn't anything like that anywhere else.............? When I started showing him pics of all the coasters with vertical lifts he was astounded. He just couldn't fathom anything outside his small little bubble of experience. So yes, I think the GP found it visually impressive and just don't have a well rounded enough park experience to realize it's kind of a gimmick, a fun gimmick with a cool lighting package, but just not that great of a ride.

I offer NInja at SFSTL as tribute!

To be honest I haven't ridden it in about 8 years and I'm not motivated to ever do so again. While I can handle roughness, because of how short I am the restraints hit literally right on my ears, which is just particularly painful. Every time I've walked by it's almost always just a walk on or station wait. I have no idea what maintenance is like for it but with the rate that the new corp is cutting older, unpopular coasters I wonder if this will be on the chopping block soon. I for one would be fine with that if it got us something new.

I get all that. I understood you. I wasn't blaming you so much as trying to figure out the point of listing credentials. I'm just not sure why you went there when this all started with me responding specifically to Zach about the carousel issue. My point was exactly what you just said, it doesn't matter who's been on here for how long or whatever; differing opinions are allowed and valid but pointless complaining about one issue is exhausting. I 100% get that there have been management issues, I witnessed them somewhat through my son's employment but unless you are able and willing to specifically address them or give examples for us all to discuss civilly then why just throw blanket statements about being lied to or promised things that didn't come true? Explain what you are referring to or don't bring it up. For example, the park has given more than one date for the carousel to open. Those dates were not achieved. I agreed that the park should explain why. Did they lie? Did something out of their control happen? No one on here knows for sure, or if they do they aren't saying, so we speculate and argue about it. My opinion was that it's annoying but I would rather it take as long as necessary to really do the job properly and in the end a long refurb for a carousel is not that big a deal or worth getting upset over. Zach's main opinion is that it is a ridiculous amount of time and there is no excuse and that it is detrimental to the enjoyment of the park. We disagree but both are valid opinions, by the very nature of being opinions. In the end I feel like you read too much into our ongoing argument about the carousel, perhaps an online forum is just not the place to have this type of disagreement. In the end I'm guessing the vast majority of people on here are tired of us rehashing it, so we should probably move on. I will, if you will.

One other weird question. Do they just do a generic Christmas soundtrack throughout the park during Christmas Town or do they do Christmas music themed to the various countries like the normal music.

Thanks for the post on Christmas Town as I now think my family will be in the area next year during Christmas week. We will have non riding family members with us that will just come for the Holiday stuff and I was thrilled to see that they were open on Christmas Eve and day. I assume that is a regular thing? My son and I will be at the park in May for the ACE spring con (and have been before) and with a trip to Fl in the fall in the works will probably get the pass that gets us entry into all the SEAS parks, so not too fussed if there are rides down in Dec and parking will be covered. Did they have the closed rides listed on the app before you arrived or was it a last minute thing? I mean, to be fair it's always a risk when you try cold weather theme parking. Also, are the lorikeets out in the winter? I always thought of them as a more tropical type of bird. Asking for my husband who would literally spend all day playing with the lorikeets rather than ride stuff and get "jostled around" to quote him, lol.

I agree with the exception that I think it was more corporate looked upon us as an afterthought than necessarily took a negative view. I think because the park was lower attendance than the big parks but still made a profit just didn't make us a priority a lot of the time. Also, not having our own park President to advocate isn't helpful. It will be interesting to see if the new corporation shuffles priorities and/or changes the methodology for choosing where new rides go. They seem to be on a minor rampage with getting rid of older, problematic, lower popularity rides at the moment.

Sure...............except me responding to you is a reaction to something you said, while you are responding to no one, just airing your grievance over and over and over again for no discernible purpose. Hence the common saying that I used. Do we need to have a lesson on metaphors and hyperbole? Or are you just trying to get me riled up by calling me old, lol?

Well I have been on here for going on 9 years so I'm not sure what your criteria for a newbie is but that isn't the only way to have knowledge about the park. Yes, you have been on online forums longer than me, but, I have lived within 15 miles of the park for almost 50 years, been to somewhere around 70 parks around the world at this point and as stated my son worked there for 5 seasons; does any of that count? See, this is a silly game. I do take some offense at your implication that I, whom I believe you are alluding to, falls for park BS. What utter nonsense. I already stated that I thought the park was making a mistake in not being transparent about what is going on, a while back I posted about how a rides manager at the park was really not properly doing their job which affected my son's job status, and I really don't take everything that is said for gospel. However, I am optimistic and hopeful, sorry that's just my nature and I will continue to point out that as important as this might be to all of us, nothing that happens at the park is of major real world importance. I care about the park, want to see it successful, have a lot of nostalgia for it for various reasons, feel it's important economically to the region, etc, etc,.........but that is not the same thing as falling for BS. Beside who says things haven't gotten better? Which is a very subjective term by the way. New rides have been put in, just perhaps not the ones you want. I mean the vomitron means nothing to me but you cannot deny its popularity. The park highlighted structural improvements over the winter, boring sure, doesn't mean it isn't an improvement. EV chargers mean nothing to some people but the ones that do use them consider it an improvement. Some people could care less if they have entertainment, but still an improvement if the amount and quality goes up. My point being things getting better is an extremely vague statement. What specific lack of maintenance are you talking about. Rides? Infrastructure? Landscaping? Food? Entertainment? I'm happy to have a discussion with you but at this point you and Zach just sound like old men yelling at clouds.

Good to know. There are so many local sources they could mine for talent. Everything from all the high school drama clubs, to Stages (they have acting classes for kids and adults), to the Muny (not just Muny kids but they use local actors as well in lots of the productions. Of course they have to market it all correctly too. Yeah. That's been a disappointment for sure. I wish they would re-open it because it was the one place you could get light, somewhat healthier fare, like salads and wraps. The quality wasn't bad at all and it was welcome on hot summer days. BUT if it really isn't viable as a restaurant then they need to repurpose or tear down, I agree it is rather sad looking.

Appreciate any and all park news that you are willing and able to give us!