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I'm pretty sure that the skip the line thing will revert to just one since they are getting rid of the old SF fastpass system and using the CF system chain wide. Although, since that works on a wristband and not digitally I'm not sure what a one time will look like. May just be a paper pass. Also, I think one mug will work and I've been told that SF parks will start putting in drink stations where you can just get a paper cup versus carrying around the plastic jug all day which we greatly prefer. Will see how long that takes to implement and if they do it at all parks. But there still seems to be a LOT of internal confusion regarding how this is all working. The person I spoke to at my home park, SFSTL, was very sympathetic and flat out told me they had simply not been given all the information yet and were themselves trying to sort out all the answers. Of course we knew there would be merging pains but still frustrating. I will be at SFSTL for an ACE event on Sept 6th and if I haven't gotten an answer yet will literally corner the higher ups and enact mild Karen mode (just an expression I'll be nice, firm but nice) until I get said answer. Of course that will be after the "sale" deadline on new passes so if advantageous to switch over I might regret waiting.

So, back to my post from several days ago. Do you know if this includes the legacy SF Diamond Elite VIP membership inclusions? For 2025, when the all park passport was added on it only included parking and admission for legacy CF parks. The meals, drinks, etc, etc continued to work at all legacy SF parks. The recent email gave a list of things that would now be included at ALL parks (mostly things already on there) and mentioned drinks but not meals. Although I haven't given up trying to get an answer from some actual live human that works for the new mega corp!

Hey as Bert said that's pretty good for a non-enthusiast. I ride almost everything with my son but I'm the one that got him involved in the first place so Kudos to Mom's everywhere. We've been to CP many times but my son was there on Monday 7/28 which turned out to be the recent and already infamous flood day. He was at a weekend event in Columbus with some non-enthusiast but willing friends so they went up just for the day. However, unlike good old Mom here they were late getting going not understanding his pleas to get there early and be first in line to get in and beat the rope drop crowd to at least one of the new coasters. They took so much time getting in, doing SC and TT2, and grabbing food that was all they had done when the storm hit and they were then trapped in Millie's station for 4 hours. Only had about 2 hours after that so just got on a couple other rides. Although good on the park for opening up anything at that point I guess. His opinion is SC was great but as a huge fan of the original TTD he was not at all enthused about TT2...............thought it was horribly slow and declared no need to every wait in a line for it. Said if it was basically a walk on then sure he would ride again but won't cry if it's a one and done for him. Just reporting, don't kill the messenger, lol.

Agreed! I particularly love the people that complain about it but then state that they aren't ever going back to Disney because it's too woke or too expensive or too much stress to plan now or forces to much phone time............ok, then like why do you care? We're going mostly to Universal at the very end of Sept but spending just about a day and half at Disney first. Going to hit MNSSHP and pick up our credit on Tron which we don't yet have.

Yeah, that's my dilemma; what to do? On the other hand what is the worst I am risking by waiting to see what happens? Just the sale price, probably not that big a deal in the long run.

So for anyone who wants to know: 1) Called corporate. Waited on hold for about 15 minutes before it forced me to leave a message with the promise of a call back. Doubtful that will happen but hopefully, I will be wrong. 2) Called SFSTL where I had a conversation with a truly very nice and helpful guest relations woman. She was sympathetic but stated that they themselves have not been told about the food issue and as far as she knows SF has not decided on that issue yet for the memberships. She suggested that I use the chat feature on web site because then she would get a record of it and be able to pursue it with corporate. So, 3) I did that. Twice but was never able to connect to a live human despite being on hold on the chat waiting for one for 45 minutes. Although I did get an email from the same person I spoke to yesterday this morning. So I wrote a response that she can hopefully then pass up the line about how basically it is bs that they are announcing the changes without knowing all the changes, etc, etc This may all be completely for naught but as a troublemaking former social studies teacher that has more time on her hands than ever before I will continue to fight the man until I get an answer of die from exhaustion. Stay tuned. I'm double posting this on SFSTL thread since it's my home park and the SF corporate thread for maximum audience in case anyone else finds out anything.

So for anyone who wants to know: 1) Called corporate. Waited on hold for about 15 minutes before it forced me to leave a message with the promise of a call back. Doubtful that will happen but hopefully, I will be wrong. 2) Called SFSTL where I had a conversation with a truly very nice and helpful guest relations woman. She was sympathetic but stated that they themselves have not been told about the food issue and as far as she knows SF has not decided on that issue yet for the memberships. She suggested that I use the chat feature on web site because then she would get a record of it and be able to pursue it with corporate. So, 3) I did that. Twice but was never able to connect to a live human despite being on hold on the chat waiting for one for 45 minutes. Although I did get an email from the same person I spoke to yesterday this morning. So I wrote a response that she can hopefully then pass up the line about how basically it is bs that they are announcing the changes without knowing all the changes, etc, etc This may all be completely for naught but as a troublemaking former social studies teacher that has more time on her hands than ever before I will continue to fight the man until I get an answer of die from exhaustion. Stay tuned. I'm double posting this on SFSTL thread since it's my home park and the SF corporate thread for maximum audience in case anyone else finds out anything.

I agree about the communication problem; it's why I am definitely not looking forward to a customer service call but I'll give it a go anyway. Would actually be nice if multiple people called so we can see if there is any consistency on this issue. It has been announced that Zimmerman is stepping down at the end of 2025. Whether that was planned after the merger was set or strictly a result of the worse than expected earnings report or a combination of the two I really don't know. Perhaps someone on here has more information. No worries about stealing my thunder, I think we all have enough hot air to hash out several different topics at once

And actually upon a little more investigation, it appears they haven't even updated the member portal in 3 years. Great.

I'll report back if I get a coherent answer!

I'm thinking that may be correct because their have been several changes to the dining plans over the last 5 years and it has never affected our memberships. In fact some employees are a little surprised we have 2 meals and a snack. I've even wondered a couple times if it was maybe supposed to change but slipped under the radar since it is often the case that the left and right hands don't know the other exists. I think I need to talk to someone at the park to sort it out but God only knows if I will get a correct answer, I'm really not sure if it is badly worded or purposefully ambiguous.

Not that I can see. If I log into my membership account there are no add-ons available at all. Unfortunately, I think this is going to necessitate a call to customer service to confirm or I might just run by the park one day.......probably easier in the long run. Then pending the answers I will have to decide what is the better deal. Preferred seating at the waterpark I don't care about and frankly I don't buy enough merch at this stage to feel like that discount is worthy of consideration. Preferred parking is nice but hardly a dealbreaker and the drinks package if we have to do separately is really not that expensive. I guess it comes down to the food and whether we get that or not and if not is it worth it to keep the memberships. I'm not sure if it is just badly worded or they are being purposefully ambiguous.

Posted this on the SF corporate thread but I'm not sure how much traffic that is getting so thought I would get the opinion of the regulars on this thread: So we are still Diamond Elite VIP blah blah members. I've kept it because it was locked in for such a good deal. Received this email today. It doesn't mention dining at all, we currently get 2 meals and a snack. Does this mean they are simply doing away with dining for the memberships? Or am I reading that incorrectly? Just trying to decide if we hold onto them for now or are better off switching to the new passes. To Our Diamond and Diamond Elite VIP Members, We are pleased to inform you that, starting Jan. 1, 2026, your Pass will grant you access to all legacy Cedar Fair parks. You will no longer need to purchase the All Park Passport. Combined with your access to all legacy Six Flags parks, this means you can visit more than 40 parks throughout the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. This new benefit joins a growing list of incredible benefits you receive as a Diamond or Diamond Elite VIP member. You also receive: Major discounts on food, beverages, and merchandise Free Bring-A-Friend Tickets on select days - Free Preferred Parking (at participating parks) Skip-the-Line passes - Haunted Attractions Pass each visit Waterpark Exclusive Seating And much more! Plus, you will receive a free All Season Drink Bottle to fill up with your favorite beverages whenever you visit! We’re excited to see you, Your friends, and family at the park!

I too was kind of expecting Ninja to be on the chopping block, I mean it's just about always a walk on (which I know strictly from observing the line while on Mine Train, lol, I'm never getting on that thing again) so clearly isn't much of a crowd pleaser. Maybe it will still get removed sooner rather than later but delayed a year until they are willing to fund a replacement?

So we are still Diamond Elite VIP blah blah members. I've kept it because it was locked in for such a good deal. Received this email today. It doesn't mention dining at all, we currently get 2 meals and a snack. Does this mean they are simply doing away with dining for the memberships? Or am I reading that incorrectly? Just trying to decide if we hold onto them for now or are better off switching to the new passes. To Our Diamond and Diamond Elite VIP Members, We are pleased to inform you that, starting Jan. 1, 2026, your Pass will grant you access to all legacy Cedar Fair parks. You will no longer need to purchase the All Park Passport. Combined with your access to all legacy Six Flags parks, this means you can visit more than 40 parks throughout the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. This new benefit joins a growing list of incredible benefits you receive as a Diamond or Diamond Elite VIP member. You also receive: Major discounts on food, beverages, and merchandise Free Bring-A-Friend Tickets on select days - Free Preferred Parking (at participating parks) Skip-the-Line passes - Haunted Attractions Pass each visit Waterpark Exclusive Seating And much more! Plus, you will receive a free All Season Drink Bottle to fill up with your favorite beverages whenever you visit! We’re excited to see you, Your friends, and family at the park!

Agreed. I'm in STL and for at least the last 10 years I know they have gone to daily ops by Memorial Day. In the mid-west almost all schools are out by then.

He has expressed disdain for enthusiasts and this hobby repeatedly and yet he spends a lot of time on here communicating with said enthusiasts; a classic bully. Don't waste the time, he isn't worth it. Instead lets celebrate you! Congrats on doing what makes you happy and achieving a goal, doesn't matter a wink what others think. As a parent and teacher I want to congratulate you personally for advocating for yourself! I know from first hand experience that is often a difficult thing for someone on the spectrum to do. So, live the life that makes you happy, be kind, be accepting, and focus on the things and people that make you feel happy and fulfilled. Good luck!!

It looks great! I have some friends that are equestrians more than theme park people that cannot wait to come and check it out. ACE Heart of America region shared this post on fb and I replied that I was a bit surprised they re-opened it so quietly. Elizabeth Gotway responded (for those that don't know she has been the marketing director for the park for a long time, although she did not respond with her official title or as a park employee, just her name) that this was just the phase 1 opening and that they would do a big celebration for the phase 2 opening. I have absolutely no idea what the heck that means but thought I would share

Careful...................them's fighting words, you'll restart the very divisive "corporate hates us" argument again

I agree that they have definitely put some time, effort and money into the park; as previously discussed just not so much on the ride front but on infrastructure. Not sexy but necessary and would lead you to believe there are plans to keep the park profitable and working well for the future. I don't think an RMC conversion of the Boss is likely now since they put the money into doing the titan track section, hopefully they add to that. IF we do get a major new attraction I think a small footprint coaster is much more likely. As I said I don't think they made the SDC/SFSTL Coaster Con pick because they know something new will be coming BUT if the park had plans they might be more motivated to have it ready to go by then. Clearly all speculation, maybe nothing will happen, time will tell. P.S. - There is an ACE event on Sept 6 and a group ride on the carousel is in the printed itinerary. While those schedules are never concrete it does indicate the park has a fair amount of confidence that it will be operational by then. P.P.S - Shell bought out the company that originally put in the EV chargers so they are no longer free. Still totally worth it for those traveling from further away that need to charge while in the park. Locals no more free juice but you really didn't need it anyway, lol.

Will be fun to see what, if anything, happens with the area in question. It has been announced that ACE CoasterCon in 2027 will be at SDC and SFSTL. Now some people assume that this means something new will be put in place by then. That is not necessarily true. ACE doesn't get secret phone calls about future plans, on the other hand it would be nice timing. I am sure the bigger draw for this pick is SDC which will have the new hotel and possibly a new water park, or some other attraction ready to go by then. They also take into consideration other area enhancements and the two new Vekoma coasters at Lake of the Ozarks will be good to go by then which will give attendees from far away a chance to ride them while traveling between the two parks.

That's so bizarre to me because every time I've ridden it this season I thought it's been running really well. I do almost always sit in a non-wheel seat, usually front row or second to last row. I know some people will poo poo that as nonsense but you can tell a difference. Just ask Bert about front row Voyage versus second row Voyage, lol. I do agree that they need to do some work on it for the 50th, at least a good paint job for God's sake, and maybe some special merch?

They could definitely open up some space there. Spinsanity could be moved, or rethemed for a new area, and if you got rid of the bathrooms, TS gift shop (and there are at least two other gift shop locations that have been closed), outpost snacks and possibly even the old Chevy show building, which I think has just been used for storage for several years now; there would definitely be room for a nice new themed restaurant which I think would be awesome. Now if we are really playing the wish game and they got rid of Ninja, there would be room for a new restaurant and something else. It would obliterate the last vestiges of that original themed area (I think it was Spain or France) but those are pretty much non existent anyway so I don't think anyone will care too much at this point.

Went to the park on the evening of the 4th. We arrived about 5, spent the next 3 and a half hours leisurely riding and eating our way around the park. It was moderately crowded but we really didn't have an agenda other than hanging around until close for the fireworks so we really just did things we wanted to do. Most things were up and running. Log flume had water going on both sides but only the right open.....maybe they will have the left open over the weekend, I know it takes a lot of staff. Coasters that we rode all had two train ops. Supergirl down when we walked by but no idea if that was all day or what. Boomerang AND Fireball both operating which was not the case on either of my two previous visits this year. Tried to catch the new "show" on the train, I saw some of the actors while on MT but we rode it late in the day and it was no longer going, keep that in mind if that is important to you or someone in your party. Landscaping: This has filled in nicely since I was there in May and they really have done a great job on the flowers and other seasonal plants this year. Palace gardens and area by JB's/JL in particular looked really good. Justice League: It was no longer in old lady mode like it was 5 weeks ago but also not running exactly well. Screens all on and car stopping where it should, but no fire effects, no Joker effect and the guns were not firing accurately at all. Spinsanity/Tsunami Soaker: This area was a bit dead. TS is of course not looking like it is coming back at all and Spinsanity was not fully assembled and looks to be down for an extended period. Fireworks: A bit of a goof here. They started right on time but seemed to only last 5 minutes and then nothing so we started heading for the exit thinking wtf? Then just as we were going through the entrance plaza they started up again. About a 5 minute or so lapse. We then, with most of the other guests, watched from the area right in front of preferred parking and just outside the security checkpoint. The rest of the show was a good 15 minutes with a fabulous traditional grand finale. So, there must have been some sort of choreography or technical glitch. Would have been very nice if they had made an announcement to stay where you are the show will continue momentarily but I of course have no idea what caused the problem so maybe that wasn't possible. Carousel: I swear I am just reporting the facts here Carousel has the inner 2 segments of horses installed and couple on the the 3rd segment. I cannot imagine it will take them more than a couple more weeks to get the rest installed. Now I have no idea if there are any mechanical/technical issues to address after installation but they are clearly getting close. They do have a corridor blocked off from the Old Glory to the carousel; I am sure that is to enable a secure pathway for the movement of said horses. So you are not currently able to go from there under Pandemonium to Bugs. The horses that I could see looked fabulous.

Thanks for posting this! I saw it a couple days ago but thought if I was the one to post it, I would be accused of ulterior motives and WW3 might erupt Seriously though, I wonder if they are trying to have it ready to go for National Carousel Day on July 25th?