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Grouchy, Party of One, your table is now available. WINNING! I had to say this before in another thread: The haters gotta hate, the grouches gotta grouch, and there will people who will find some ENDLESS fault with a new ride that's not even OPEN yet!!! GET OVER IT. IT'S A NEW COASTER. BE HAPPY ABOUT IT. Grouches gotta grouch.......lol!

^What about steel coaster trains, would they cost more to rehab?

Okay CF, we got you higher attendance/earnings, how about rewarding us with a new coaster?

If they were to send trains out to be rehabbed, wouldn't that cost the park A LOT more money than doing it in house? You would have the cost of shipping it there and back, the cost of parts, labor charges..which would be pretty high. That just seems like something a park would never do due to the cost involved. And to do that for multiple trains for multiple ride? That just seems like way too much. Yeah, that's never gonna happen!

Arguing about seats..... Figures.

And schedule around all of the other coasters that's have multiple trains that all need to rehabbed for the summer as well as all the other rides and any and all park maintenance done in the off season, yeah, sounds soooo easy doesn't it!

Awesome!

A drop tower? That's just silly!

What?....the game is not over yet?

But this ride was designed with this train in mind so actually, it was designed for the experience you describe and designed for a different experience on the outside so to say sitting on the outside will not give you the experience the ride was designed to give is not accurate and so "normal" on this ride would be wherever you sit.

Yeah I think so, but that's not really a true coaster.

Yeah, it's been slightly more than 10 years. According to RCDB, Psycho Mouse opened 3/24/2001 and was the last new coaster installed. Something is coming, hopefully something big, but it's coming.

I'm with you there and actually, I think its been at least ten years....man that's a loooong time! Wasn't the last new coaster Psycho Mouse?

I wish this was being built on the west coast so I could ride it... Oh well, looks like a trip to Hershey is in order!

Very interesting and looks like it will be a lot of fun. I would take the outside seat for sure!

That sounds like a good start to getting this park back up to its former glory.

Yes it is pointless isn't it. Please somebody talk about something else......please. How about this... I'm finally going down there next week for a few days and can't wait to ride GL. Is anything going on that would cause long lines? I would be in the park Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

^Exactly. While the Invertigos use the catch car/ chains they can do so because the lift is at an angle, so when it catches the train the stress may not be so bad. On the GIB however, the towers are completely vertical, and with the cable design when it catches the train the cable sort of acts like a rubber band and gives/stretches slightly which helps to reduce stress on the catch car and lift tower. If a "more reliable" chain was used here not only would the jolt of it catching the train be more severe and uncomfortable, it would also put a lot more stress on the structure and everything involved and actually, the chain probably would not last. How do you know they didn't try this when they were designing the GIB? And, don't you think they went with the cables because, oh I don't know, its the better design of what they tried? Comparing this to Farenheit does not work. You cannot compare a chain lift which engages the train on a horizontal plane at almost a standstill and a smaller train to a cable lift/catch car that grabs the bigger train AS IT IS MOVING up the vertical spike twice (once on each tower) per ride cycle. If the chain lift is so much better than the cable lift or launch then why doesn't Intamin use it on TTD or MF or most of their Megalites? There's gotta be a good reason so what is it?

Good for the city! So basically there is nothing in the way of it except the stadium fiasco and CF, Prudential is not even a player in this game anymore.

^^They will build it over the reflecting pool in front of the Columbia Carousel! But seriously, its fun to speculate but you have to know when to just stop. Right now everything is an unknown so its just a waiting game. And build it in Invertigo's spot?.....uh, no. IF they were going to put in a coaster by the bitchy neighbors I would IMAGINE it would be steel, quiet like with Medusa's sand filled supports or some butt ugly sound wall that Prudential gets to stare at everyday. Yes there is still hope but you just have to wait and see. What WE want is not necessarily what they are going to get or what's good for the park so just be happy if they announce anything.

^Exactly! I totally agree, it completely makes sense and maintaining it that way does not make it the most expensive ride in the park to keep up, so I don't get where all of that comes from. Lift motors do not get replaced every season, only when they fail or need to be replaced...could you imagine how expensive that would be? And the cables probably aren't replaced unless they either show signs they need to be or when it falls within the replacement schedule. And even refurbishing/rehabbing the lifts, catch cars, train, brakes, etc, still does not make it the most expensive, I just find that hard to believe.

Superman has an elaborate, computer controlled launch system, and all of the coasters in the park have many, many sensors, all over the place as well as brakes, drive systems for the trains, lift gearboxes and motors, etc,. Okay so let's not count the brakes as mostly those require minimal maintenance as well as the sensors, but you still have the complicated launch system of Superman...is that cheaper to maintain?

Well, for that they would need a B&M or Intamin hyper. However, a B&M hyper would look too much like Goliath, so we can pretty much forget that. Tim said we weren't getting a prefab. Actually, the capactiy of a Megalite is surprisingly low, at 810 riders per hour. An Intaimin hyper might work, but people would still conpare it to Goliath. So, I guess that leaves either a giga or a dive machine, assuming they want to spend that much. They wont' put in another coaster similar to one they have now.....hmm, like X2/Green Lantern? No they would never do that! And I want some numbers for the maintenance cost for Deja Vu that keeps getting mentioned, how can it be that expensive? There are other rides that are more expensive to maintain I'm sure than that one, especially since it only has 1 train. Last time I checked most if not all the other coasters have at least two trains. let's see, more trains=more parts=more time spent on maintenance=more money

Yeah that's right, that's what I remember. Figures, its not even 100 feet tall...lol

Just because it's a Maegalite does not mean it will have the same layout as the others, it could be anything the park wants. Intamin offers a "standard" layout for parks that just want to buy a Megalite but they are also very good a customizing a coaster's layout to what the customer wants. The ride you mentioned and at least two others I've seen are the exact same layout, so those parks just got the "standard" model. If this is a Megalite, it could be one totally customized for Hershey.