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I think I'm the only one that actually likes Kong. It's rough but there's something about it that I just dig. (Other than the eternally non-existent line)

You're right I hadn't even noticed that! Very cool!

Glad people are enjoying it, even more glad I seem to have posted it correctly

No, last Sunday was not representative of a normal Sunday. There was a special season pass holders bring friends free deal that is only good for like 6 or 7 sundays of the year and last Sunday was the only summer date listed, so the attendance was practically doubled from what it would be normally, which is already a busy weekend in july.

Sunday was a bad example..that was probably the busiest day of the entire year...it was absolutely insane. Apprently there was a friends get in free deal for season pass holders going on that day. 10/5 is the first day of Fright Fest, so I'm expecting it to not be dead, but shouldn't be too bad. I'm going the weekend after, so I'm hoping for light crowds too. If you have an iPhone check out an app called RideHopper, you can see reports of line lengths at any time for numerous parks. (Just keep in mind they are reported by users in the park, not the park itself, so you can get false reports)

Are you forgetting Xcelerator at Knott's??? I am! I haven't been to Knott's since like 1985, it was a bit different back then, I tend to forget it when thinking about thrill rides, though they do have a couple good ones now. And now that you mention it, with Xcelerator at Knotts it makes even less sense to do a vertical shuttle at SFMM unless it really was a record breaker, but even then I don't see that happening for quite some time if at all.

Has X2 had the same kind of downtime that X did? I thought that was the primary reason for the overhaul was to curb the downtime. On a related note, does anyone know if Eejanaika has had the same reliability issues? (Or Dinoconda, but it's too new to tell) My personal opinion is you can never have too many 4th dimension coasters, reliability be damned

Personally I would enjoy a Kingda Ka type ride at SFMM, even if it wasn't a record breaker. SFGAdv has the main one and CP has Top Thrill, it would be nice to have one on the west coast...but that's just me...and I think something like that is probably too close to SEFK to be added anytime soon.

Yeah for the most part. I do miss the skyway and the people mover though.

Viper is iconically (is that a word?) SFMM as almost anything in the park to me, I hope they never remove it as long as it can still run safely.

As you can tell from my join date and post count I'm a long time lurker but don't post often and have never posted a Photo TR before, so if I've done anything wrong please be gentle This trip was taken 20 years before I was born, so I'll do my best to caption what I can. My mother (3 at the time), her sister, and their parents (my grandparents) are the ones that were on the trip. The images were scanned from Kodachrome slides, which is why the contrast is screwy on some of them. If you haven't scanned slides before, the lights are REALLY light and the darks are REALLY dark. I tried to fix it as much as I could. I wanted to post these because there are some really good images of attractions long since gone from the park, mainly the Indian Village (and canoes), Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland, Pack Mules Through Nature's Wonderland, the original Mark I ALWEG Monorail vehicles, the Pirate Ship restaurant, and the mermaids of the lagoon. My originals are 2000px length, I'd be happy to send any if anyone wants them, I shrunk them for the TR in the interest of filesize and readability. Entering Adventureland... Part of storybook land with the Skyway entering the Matterhorn in the background One of the old Indian War Canoes, before they became the Davy Crockett Explorer canoes in 1971. This is a great photo of Fantasyland taken from the Skyway. You can make out the original Mad Tea Party, the carousel, Sleeping Beauty's Castle, and the facade of Peter Pan behind the carousel. An old Carnation Ice Cream stand that was quite beautiful. Note the price - 10c! My grandfather owned a grocery store at the time and apparently "had the hookup with Carnation" so he got them even cheaper than that...lol... I believe this is just down from and facing away from Main Street? I believe this was part of the que for the Pack Mules. The Ceremonial Dance at Indian Village. My aunt is in the pink shorts. These were real Native Americans that worked at the park until I believe about 1971 when it was shut down due to combination of labor disputes and declining interest. The Ceremonial Dance at Indian Village More Indian Village.. More Indian Village... More Indian Show... This is one of my favorite photos in the bunch, a great photo of the Jungle Cruise ride loading and the Adventureland Bazaar behind it. These plastic gators look about the same as they always have! The burning settler's house back before the politically correct changes when he was still the victim of an Indian attack. Kinda ironic that the only time this was acceptable is when there were actual native americans working at the park, isn't it? I love animatronic hippos too Main Street, USA, 1960. Note the banner in the background advertising the newly opened Nature's Wonderland. Main Street, USA, 1960. Note the banner in the background advertising the newly opened Nature's Wonderland. That's cheap for a carriage ride! I like this one. Nice snapshot-in-time of tourists in 1960, the Penny Arcade visible on the right and the Main Street Station in the far background. Great photo of the original Matterhorn decoration and the Skyway cars going into the tunnel. One of my favorite shots..you can see the mermaids in the lagoon with the submarine and the monorail track in the background and the Matterhorn behind it. Another great one of the mermaids with the Matterhorn and the Skyway in the background. The best shot I've seen anywhere of the mermaids. Disneyland stopped having live mermaids in the lagoon in about 1966, probably due to health concerns. I heard that the chemicals used to keep algae off the rocks was harmful to the girls. The famous Mine Train Through Nature's Wonderland..great shot with the waterfall in the background. I hear it was run exactly like the Jungle Cruise with commentary and such. Rainbow Ridge, the beginning of the Mine Train adventure, the only part that still remained after BTMRR was installed in 1979. This is a pretty cool shot even though it's kind of blurry with the desert in the foreground and the matterhorn in the distance. Big Thunder Falls during the mine train ride, for which BTMRR was presumably named. The original Mark I ALWEG Monorail. I heard the new trains are very similar (but without the upside down cadillac fin) The Motor Boat Cruise that opened with the park and closed down in 1993. There was some debate I think in the 1958 TR over what this ship was used for..it was actually a restaurant. The "Chicken Of The Sea Pirate Ship Restaurant". The entrance was on the bottom through the hull and then you exited through the top as seen here. Note the cool vintage drink vending machine on the right. (My mother is the smallest child there) The Pirate Ship Restaurant as seen from the Skyway, with Storybook Land also visible in the background. The Sailing Ship Columbia, and I think that is Big Thunder Falls off to the left way back there. On board the Sailing Ship Columbia. The Monsanto House Of The Future, aka "The Plastic House". Actual donkeys! Seriously, this is the Pack Mules Through Nature's Wonderland attraction..and those aren't animatronics. The que/loading area for the Pack Mules. Pack Mules through Nature's Wonderland. The three girls in red are my mother (front) and two of her sisters. The TWA (remember them?) Rocket To The Moon attraction. I kind of wish I had gotten to ride this as a kid, it sounds pretty cool for the day. http://www.yesterland.com/moonrocket.html My mom (left) and two of her sisters with some walking advertisements for Tomorrowland! The loading of the Storybook Land Canal ride with the Skyway overhead and the Pirate Restaurant in the background. Storybook Land castle Submarine Voyage when it was brand spanking new. The ferry to Tom Sawyer's island Great photo taken from TSI showing the Indian War Canoe in front with the boat que in back and the Matterhorn way back there. I think these were the indians that supposedly set fire to the settler's cabin and shot him with the arrow. I guess Disney wasn't as concerned with safety in the 60's..I don't think that would fly nowadays. The Mark Twain Riverboat as seen from Tom Sawyer's Island. The Columbia looks very cool in the background like that, very "Goonies"! Inside the fort on Tom Sawyer's Island Alice In Wonderland, 1960. Time go go, it's been a long day (or 2 or 3 probably) and we've got a 6 hour drive ahead of us tomorrow...

You're probably right, Riddler's isnt the only long line though. X2 and Tatsu are the only short ones, its possible that they just opened..but it's more likely (especially with a smaller number of people reporting) that the reports are wrong. Anything is better than yesterday though, that's for sure.

How bout this: Currently I'm seeing reports that Riddler has a 2+ hr line, X2 is a 5 minute wait, and Tatsu is a walkon. Gotta love Mondays, but who knows why Riddler has such a long que. Could just be a bad report.

Went to SFMM when at the time the only coaster inversion I'd been on was Screamin' at DCA. Prepared myself up by watching POV videos of everything before the trip and had this great plan to start out on Goliath and then try Revolution and by the end of the day get to Tatsu and X. Much to my dismay, right as we went in my dad and uncle both said "Let's ride X first while there's no line." and it was either face it or look extremely yellow. I was not happy about this, as I told him as we were going up the lift hill. Serious trial by fire, white knuckled it all the way through, but loved it. At the time it made me fearless of any other ride, Deja Vu was next all of a sudden that was no problem. It would have been a breeze after that if I hadn't injured my neck on Goliath..ended up only riding X, DV, Goliath, and SEFK. I really regret not getting to ride Viper or Tatsu. Ended up riding X 4 times that day and it is now my absolute favorite ride of any kind in the world. Haven't been there since the X2 upgrade though, hope to remedy that in a few months.

biosciking, I liked the historic Disney photos in there. The ones about 1960 and the Mine Train reminded me I have some great (and unusually high quality) photos of Disneyland 1960. If you or anyone else is interested I could post a Retro Photo TR. There's some good shots of the Mine Train, the mermaids in the lagoon, the Pack Mule Trail, and some other things that aren't around anymore.

Appreciate it. My off days are Sunday/Monday and I live 6 hrs away from the park so Sunday is the most convenient but if it's a significant difference I can do Saturday instead.

The park is just ridiculously busy today. Those are long wait times relative to the normal wait times for those rides, but they're short wait times relative to the other rides right now cause it's just so busy. At the moment, LL, Batman, Goliath, Ninja, RR, Tatsu, Riddler, and X2 all are reported to have lines over 2 hours. I've been periodically watching the wait times on everything at the park since I'm planning a weekend visit in October during Fright Fest..trying to decide which day would be the least busy..most likely going Sat 10/13 or Sun 10/14. I've never been during FF before, are there certain days that aren't as busy? The park is only open weekends in October (except one Monday in which FF activities won't be operating) so I'm not sure what days would be better than others.

Well yeah it was a guy, we don't like going to the hospital as it is, and this was embarassing and he was an hour and a half from home. I could see where if he was able to stop the bleeding he might have declined medical treatment on site, but then when the additional symptoms appeared at home he decided it was more serious.

I don't think it was scheduled downtime, they're probably just down unexpectedly. There's no way they'd do that on purpose on a hot and busy Summer day. EDIT: Tatsu already reportedly back up, and with a 2 hr line. Also, remember..the reports can only come from inside the park as the app uses GPS verification, but anyone in the park can report whatever they want. It's more useful to look at the overall trends rather than precise numbers.

This would be an excellent day for a FlashPass. According to RideHopper (reported by people in the park): 30min: Revolution 45min: Colossus, Green Lantern, Viper 60min: Scream, Apoc, SEFK, Batman 120min+: Goliath, Lex Luthor, Ninja, Roaring Rapids, Riddler Not Running: Tatsu, X2 (It only goes up to 120 so those lines could be longer)

I agree, thanks for that unique TR, many of those flats I had never even noticed in the park! (Admittedly because I spend most of my time either running to or re-riding X/X2)

Yeah if the person is especially afraid of inversions I would do Roar instead..I prefer Medusa because a lot of people that I know are turned off by rough rides.

That's probably the best coaster to start someone out on at that park. Good luck getting them on Superman

Not to step on Rob's toes in his forum, I highly recommend Blue Bayou, it's worth the reservation and the price. Difficulty may vary, and in the summer it may be harder, but you could probably get a reservation for that date if you call now, especially if it's not at the busiest time. This is the restaurant visible from Pirates Of The Carribean and although it's indoors it looks and feels as if outdoors at night. There's great ambiance like fireflies etc. Most entrees are in the neighborhood of $25-35 and the food is EXCELLENT. I've had a date there before and it was a great time. Just make sure you make a reservation, you won't get in without one. If you do make a reservation find out where it is ahead of time (right next to the exit for Pirates and the door to Club 33 if you know what that is) and plan to arrive about 10-15 mins ahead of the reservation time just in case. I have had occaisons where there was actually a line to get in of people all having current reservations. Site: http://disneyland.disney.go.com/disneyland/blue-bayou-restaurant/ Menu: http://disneyland.disney.go.com/media/dlr_nextgen/CoreCatalog/Disneyland/en_us/Media/InternetMediaType/Dining/Menus/BlueBayouDinner_20110602.pdf Reservations: (714) 781-3463 (I don't represent them, just a big fan)

I'm sorry, I just mentioned that in passing as it related to X and didn't think it was a big deal, I replied hoping it would steer things back to X2 but it backfired, I didn't mean to hijack the thread, I apologize.