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Re: Chase’s 2019 Coaster Adventures

Postby RollerManic » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:45 pm

I full on agree with you about Steel Vengeance. I’m also a huge El Toro fan and since my first ride 5 years ago I have been searching for anything that comes even remotely close to it’s awesomeness, but instead El Toro has been sitting very firmly at my number 1 overall spot for years.

Element for element, Storm Chaser is the best RMC out of the bunch I’ve ridden (NTaG, OR, Goliath, SC, SV), BUT I still give Steel Vengeance the preference just because it has the most substance of any ride I can possibly think of on the planet and I can’t deny that to a short ride like Storm Chaser.

Maybe it’s just me too: I got off a little confused. It’s a really great ride (maybe even my number 3), but it was not immediately obvious to me that it’s undeniably the world’s best coaster, unlike when I stepped of my first Toro ride. I rode it twice in the morning on a rainy day, at twice more at closing that same day, and finally again in the morning the next day, a perfect, clear day. The only thing I’m missing is to have ridden it in the evening on a hot day, so I’m actually really looking forward to your verdict. The airtime did warm up for me by those evening rides, but it’s still not just the Intamin kind of airtime, and judging by my experience with Alan Schlike’s portfolio (including Lightning Run), I don’t think RMC ever intends on it. All his creations have a different kind of airtime that feels quick and is abundant, but contrasts even the first airtime hill on Maverick next door.

Storm Chaser has been the only exception to this, and I think that’s why I like it so much. The first airtime hill is just like a mini El Toro camelback. Maverick’s first airtime hill is also very comparable to El Toro and again, I’m a big fan.

But that said, my only experience on Toro was a cool fall weekend in October and it was still immediately my #1 ride, so step it up Steel Vengeance.

As for Maverick, it wedges into my number 2 overall spot for the same reasons you mentioned. For me too, the second launch just does me in like gravy. I could possibly go back and forth between it and Vengeance as the best ride in the park if it weren't for the second launch. I think Maverick has the world’s best launch that isn’t on a 400ft coaster. Sure, Xcelerator has a faster accelerating launch that’s very impressive, but it kind of feels like it reaches it’s speed immediately and cruises the rest of the way down the launch. The reports I’m hearing so far of Maxx Force too are saying the same thing. I find Mavericks so satisfying in how in accelerates very quickly but also never stops accelerating, and then blasts into that stupid tight turn is just ... ugh ... orgasm.

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Re: Chase’s 2019 Coaster Adventures

Postby Chasehat » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:48 pm

Cedar Point, Day 1, 7/17/19

After Cam and Jon left the park, I decided to walk around, snap some pics, and cool of with some Chick Fil-A before I got back to riding. I’m so used to having crappy food at other amusement parks so it was nice to get some good food that I actually want to eat for once.

After, a pretty good meal from Chick Fil-A I headed over to Magnum, and was greeted to the station wait. I decided to wait for the legendary ejector seat and HOLY F*CKING SHIT! This ride has some of the most downright violent ejector air I’ve ever experienced. I remember reading one of coasterbill’s trip reports (which if you haven’t ever read one of his what are you even doing on this sight) and he said this ride is almost so poorly designed it makes it great. Those triangle airtime hills look like something a 5 year old would draw and the ride is bumpy as hell but it’s part of the charm with this ride and it’s partly why I enjoy it so much.

I planned on doing Dragster next but while on the lift hill for Magnum I saw an empty train roll back so I figured it would be closed, but when I got of Magnum, I saw a train full of riders blasting towards the sky and jumped in line and waited about 3 cycles for the front seat.

I ride Kingda Ka quite a bit and I’m one of the few weirdos who prefer Ka over Dragster. From the front row I don’t think Dragster is smoother than Ka, and while the T-Bars are nice, I’ve never had a problem with Ka’s OTSRs. The main difference is that I feel Ka’s launch is just more intense. I might be biased because I ride it a lot but I like Ka just a bit more but this front seat ride on Dragster was still terrific.
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Once again people are going to insane about my plan of attack, but I went back to Millennium Force. Now running three trains and sporting just a station wait I went around and did 2 back seat rides. If you can’t tell already, I absolutely adore this ride. The blinding speed of the thing just leaves me speechless every time. I’ve only ridden two gigas, this and Fury and once again, I’m an odd ball who prefers this to Fury. I feel like Millennium sustains it’s speed much better and it’s got a much better first drop imo.
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After those great rides on the 93 mph rocket ship, I headed back over to Mav and waited 1 cycle for the front. My god this ride is ridiculous, it feels very El Toro-ish in some spots, just on a smaller scale. This ride has me even more psyched to ride I305 one day as that looks like Maverick and Millennium had some love child, that sounds orgasmic.
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Since it was around 6 at this point and I figured that was just about time to give Steel Vengeance another try. The wait was about half an hour, not too bad. I’d figured I’d be lucky to get more than one ride on this thing and anything else would be gravy. Hopped in the back seat and this ride was MUCH better than my first two. It still wasn’t giving those “best coaster ever” rides but it wasn’t the “hugely overrated” level it was at earlier in the afternoon.
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Maverick still had a station wait so I hopped back on, this time in the back seat and I think not being able to see what’s coming and getting yanked through the inversions and the two stengel dives, make it my preferred seat on the ride.
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At this point, Cam texted me he was coming back into the park, without Jon who was clapped out back at the hotel room. I told him to meet me at Raptor so when he got there we walked right onto the back row and we’re treated to an absolutely ridiculous ride on another fantastic 90’s invert from B&M. Every single one of these older inverts I’ve ridden has been terrific and I wish B&M would make rides like these again.
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After that we hopped over to Gatekeeper to experience the complete other end of the B&M spectrum. The ride hadn’t literally no wait, so we got right on in the back row. While the ride is really forceless, the wing over drop is absolutely amazing, the keyhole inversion is awesome, and it’s a nice relaxing ride with a great setting along the beach.
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At this point I was chaffed to all hell but that didn’t stop us. Cam was down for another ride on Maverick and who am I to argue? The wait was a little longer now but still only about 10 minutes for the front row. Pure bliss, this ride is one of the best coasters ever built and it left us speechless again. Cam asked if we could go around again and who the hell am I to argue?

It was about 9 o’clock at this point and Steel Vengeance was posting a 30 minute wait so we hopped since by the time we got on it would be fully dark. We just hopped in some row towards the front of the train since I wanted us to have enough time to get to Millennium Force for a night ride.

Ok, I’ve done a bit of crapping on this ride now I’m about to praise it. I’m pretty sure the trims were off on this ride because this was that world beating RMC that everyone praises. The airtime was ridiculous, the whole way through the ride, the second half didn’t feel like the trains was chugging to get through it and the thing is just a relentless assault of ejector air and wild changes in direction. I still prefer Toro but man Steel Vengeance at its peak really is one of the best coasters ever built.
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We had 15 minutes which was plenty of time for us to get over to Millennium Force and get one of its absolutely legendary night rides. The walk was really painful because my chafing was getting worse and worse but Millennium night rides are some of the best ever so nothing was going to stop me.

Of course as we got over to it, it was stuck on the lift and it was 9:55 at this point so dejected, we called it a night. Even with that disappointment it was still an absolutely ridiculous day and we were going to be able to do it again the next day.

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Re: Chase’s 2019 Coaster Adventures

Postby Chasehat » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:52 pm

RollerManic wrote:I full on agree with you about Steel Vengeance. I’m also a huge El Toro fan and since my first ride 5 years ago I have been searching for anything that comes even remotely close to it’s awesomeness, but instead El Toro has been sitting very firmly at my number 1 overall spot for years.

Element for element, Storm Chaser is the best RMC out of the bunch I’ve ridden (NTaG, OR, Goliath, SC, SV), BUT I still give Steel Vengeance the preference just because it has the most substance of any ride I can possibly think of on the planet and I can’t deny that to a short ride like Storm Chaser.

Maybe it’s just me too: I got off a little confused. It’s a really great ride (maybe even my number 3), but it was not immediately obvious to me that it’s undeniably the world’s best coaster, unlike when I stepped of my first Toro ride. I rode it twice in the morning on a rainy day, at twice more at closing that same day, and finally again in the morning the next day, a perfect, clear day. The only thing I’m missing is to have ridden it in the evening on a hot day, so I’m actually really looking forward to your verdict. The airtime did warm up for me by those evening rides, but it’s still not just the Intamin kind of airtime, and judging by my experience with Alan Schlike’s portfolio (including Lightning Run), I don’t think RMC ever intends on it. All his creations have a different kind of airtime that feels quick and is abundant, but contrasts even the first airtime hill on Maverick next door.

Storm Chaser has been the only exception to this, and I think that’s why I like it so much. The first airtime hill is just like a mini El Toro camelback. Maverick’s first airtime hill is also very comparable to El Toro and again, I’m a big fan.

But that said, my only experience on Toro was a cool fall weekend in October and it was still immediately my #1 ride, so step it up Steel Vengeance.

As for Maverick, it wedges into my number 2 overall spot for the same reasons you mentioned. For me too, the second launch just does me in like gravy. I could possibly go back and forth between it and Vengeance as the best ride in the park if it weren't for the second launch. I think Maverick has the world’s best launch that isn’t on a 400ft coaster. Sure, Xcelerator has a faster accelerating launch that’s very impressive, but it kind of feels like it reaches it’s speed immediately and cruises the rest of the way down the launch. The reports I’m hearing so far of Maxx Force too are saying the same thing. I find Mavericks so satisfying in how in accelerates very quickly but also never stops accelerating, and then blasts into that stupid tight turn is just ... ugh ... orgasm.

As you said about El Toro’s airtime, that’s the exact reason I prefer it to Steel Vengeance. Intamin’s sustained ejector air, especially the kind on El Toro is so much better than RMC air. That’s why I prefer almost all the Intamin’s I’ve ridden to the RMCs with the exception of SV.

And if you’ve only ridden Toro on cold October day, good grief catch it on a hot day. The difference in ride on Toro when it’s hot out between when it’s cold is a night and day difference.
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Re: Chase’s 2019 Coaster Adventures

Postby RollerManic » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:41 pm

Wait, you prefer Ka over Dragster too?
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Ka’s launch is definitely more intense, and the airtime hill is a bonus, but no, I don’t also think peeling blue and green paint looks better than fresh red, yellow, and white paint. :lmao:

I might have to try Steel Vengeance on a hot day next time, but for now I think #3 is a respectable spot. As for Toro in the summer, I can’t even imagine ... it’s about time I should go back there, so maybe I’ll work that in.

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Re: Chase’s 2019 Coaster Adventures

Postby Canobie Coaster » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:11 am

Great report! I haven't found much difference between Steel Vengeance on a hot and cool day because for me, the mid-course trim was off on the cooler days.
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Re: Chase’s 2019 Coaster Adventures

Postby Chasehat » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:39 pm

I should note, that the 1st day the park I also rode Cedar Creek Mine Ride and Iron Dragon since they were the only 2 credits I skipped last year. Cedar Creek Mine Ride is ok, the only thing I really remember about it was the laterals in the two helixes were pretty ridiculous. Iron Dragon is ok and the section over the water is cool but I definitely prefer the Bat at King’s Island.

Cedar Point, Day 2, 7/18/19

We had plans for later that night back in Indiana so we only had a few hours at the park and were really hoping to take advantage of early entry. As usual with me and my friends, just about nothing goes according to plan and we didn’t make it into the park until a little before 9:30. I apologize in advance for the wall of text this part is going to be, I completely forgot to take any pictures.

Anyways, we arrived through the gates with no issues and headed over to Valravn since we skipped no it yesterday. Pretty much walked right onto the middle row and strapped in the obnoxious B&M vests. Weirdly, the vests bother me on this ride, unlike Gatekeeper’s, which I find perfectly fine. This ride is the definition of meh, the first drop is great for sure, but the rest of the ride just meanders through a bunch of really forceless inversions and a completely airtimeless hill. Honestly wished we skipped this and took one more lap on Gatekeeper, which we never got back to.

Since all of our rides on Millennium Force were in the back car to this point, we agreed that on this lap, since it would most likely be our last lap of the trip, we would sit in the front. Annoyingly, the ride was only running two trains but the line was still only about 25 minutes. This lap was another amazing ride, this ride is one the best coasters ever still and it hurts my heart to see it get as much hate as it does. While the sense of speed is amplified in the front seat, I still much prefer the ride in the back seat. The airtime is a lot stronger in the back seat and the sense of speed is already ultra insane back there.

Since we planned on going in a big circle, we hit Maverick next. We noticed that there was not a peep at Steel Vengeance and because of that Maverick was sporting a pretty hefty line but after our insane rides on it the day before, no chance either of us were leaving the park without getting one more ride. The wait was about 40 minutes for the 2nd and 3rd rows, once again it delivered and absolutely insane ride. I wish I could take this damn thing home with me to New England.

Since Steel Vengeance showed absolutely no signs of life, we sadly had to skip it. Not a huge deal considering I got 4 rides on the day before but one more ride would’ve been nice to see if those day rides would’ve been better than my day rides from the previous day.

The next stop was Gemini and we were greeted to absolutely no wait and walked right onto the back row of the blue side. Now I remember really liked this ride last year but man, over the last year I had really forgotten how good this ride was! The drop has a surprisingly good amount of floater air, and the ride has many other good moments of floater air, and it’s so smooth for a 41 year old Arrow. The interaction between the two trains is also amazing and watching it people on opposite trains high five each other as they run alongside each other is always entertaining. This ride is criminally underrated and really flies under the radar because of Cedar Points ridiculously stacked lineup.

Since Jon and Cam missed out on Magnum the day before, that was our next stop. Didn’t wait for the ejector seat this time but we were treated to another terrific ride in the second to last car. This ride is bumpy as hell but those air time hills at the end are so violently good I don’t care, this ride is amazing and is another fairly underrated gem.

Too Thrill Dragster was next and it had about half an hour wait. The 3 of us decided to something we would never dare to try on Kingda Ka. We decided to try the back seat. I’ve heard some terrible things about the back seat on Ka, so I’ve never dared to try it back there. While the ride is still really fun the back, it’s just nowhere near as the front, which is why I think the roughness complaints about Ka are so stupid, considering the ride is best in the front and it’s glass smooth there, why bother complaining about it when you can just sit in the front. I should add, even though Dragster’s launch is very smooth in the back seat, the train still shakes violently on its way up the tower.

After this we hit up another hugely underrated coaster, Blue Streak! The wait was about 20 minutes and this was really the only slow crew we saw over our 2 days there. We sat in the front row and once again, this ride is very underrated. It’s not very smooth but there’s a few great moments of strong floater air and the roughness there is isn’t overwhelming or anything.

We were running short on time and had time for one more ride. I was hoping for one more back seat ride on Millennium Force but it was having it’s standard Intamin meltdown, so we opted for our final ride to be Raptor. We waited about a half and hour but it was a small price to pay for another absolutely phenomenal ride on this old school B&M.

That concludes another absolutely amazing trip to this wonderful park. I feel pretty lucky to have SFNE just 5 minutes way with Superman and wicked Cyclone, as well as only being 3 hours away from Great Adventure and El Toro, but if Cedar Point is your homework, I envy you. My trips to the park this year and last year we’re so close phenomenal that I think it’s going to start being an annual trip.

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Re: Chase’s 2019 Coaster Adventures

Postby cparkes92 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:09 pm

Looks like you had a fun time at Cedar Point! It seems like the trims have been off (or lighter than last year) on all of my three rides on Steel Vengeance this season.

SV is insane at night! On the last Friday night of CP's 2018 season, I rode Steel Vengeance three times in a half hour with the help of FL+ and all three of those rides were insane.
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