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The station is 70% done, I haven't stuck down the platforms yet as I want to add gates and some other details and lay the track first. Iv found a logo on google for the entrance which I love. And if you have been following my posts you will know iv had some difficulties with the track. Ibeams suck but look great. I have just styrene rectangle rods coming to see if there will be good and better to work with on the transitions. But iv also made up a small mock up version of a RMC track topper which looks awesome but I don't know its its smooth enough for the bearings on the train to run against, mainly on the inside as its wood. Maybe if i take my time and make sure every curve is perfect then it could work???

 

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The entrance with logo. (I love this shot)

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The station.

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Havet stuck down the Platforms yet. But I like how they look

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The roof

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Haven't finished the middle roof section yet.

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I made this RMC track topper using some scraps of styrene and wood.

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I think is looks good. But not sure wether it will allow the train to run smoothly on it?

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what do we think?

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Small update. Iv spent the day today making the wooden beam supports for the inside of the great curve. And iv also been playing around with train ideas, and better ways to attach the wheels so here is just a few photos from today. Im really happy with how the great curve is looking. And the train which is only part constructed is rolling nicely on the tester track piece I made out of scraps.

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So i added beams to the inside curve. I made the big footer out of polystyrene.

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Then i added diagonal cross beams to the fan structure.

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The front carriage is coming on nicely and rolls well on the track.

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I made the chassis different and it looks a lot cleaner and works better

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Update: The fan curve that goes over the lift hill has been constructed. Iv added temporary bents to the fan curve and the great curve to work out how to cut the real ones, which I'm now going to make out of structural beams so this means all the ones I cut out of the styrene on the lift and break run need to be replaced. I'v started making some more carriages for the train and a little more work has been done to the station, the roof hasn't been attached yet but I'v placed them into place for the pictures.

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This is the fan curve curve that goes over the lift hill

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the bottom of the Carriages

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I added temporary bents to the great curve.

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I love the shape of the banked curve in the middle

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The station

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The fan curve in its place

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You've come a long way! I love your station. Are you going to paint the wood or leave as is?

 

Im not sure to be honest. I like the wood as it is, but then if it was slightly darker it would be cool, I just would hate to ruin it if i tried to paint it. And thanks for the compliment on the station, I feel it has some progress to make with details and cleaning up some bit, I want to add some deco to the inside as well as station gates, a control booth etc. but I love it to. Got a long way to go yet.....got to do the track ha

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A very short and quick update today. I finally found a styrene product that bends easily in any direction. So tracking the ride has kind of started. Once all the bents are put in I can add the rest of the track.

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A picture of the track that iv installed in the station. Im really happy with how it looks.

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Nice! What plans do you have for it when it's done?

 

To be honest I haven't thought about it. It will most probably be displayed in my house. Its not finished at all yet I want to go back over the whole thing and add details so I would say 2 or 3 months yet.

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Lift hill time. So I changed all the bents on the lift hill with painted grey Ibeams which took forever and then I made a small workman platform on the side of the lift hill. I started to lay track which was going well and then the curve at the peak of the lift caused the rails to buckle outward so the track gauge became to large. I managed to take some pictures before I peeled off the track I put down. I then of course had to remove the glue which took the paint off the bents so I had to repaint them. Nightmare, so I decided to stop for today and will continue tomorrow ha

 

But heres the pictures

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The Ibeams look much better as bents.

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underneath view

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A view up the lift hill. And I have my track gauge I made out of card keeping the correct distance between the rails.

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The drop was all bent and I stuck it down. After it dried and I removed the clips holding it in place it went all wrong. But still happy with the progress.

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Another update. I won't have as much time soon so I won't be posted as frequently. But today was mainly spent doing bents on the great curve, the fan curve and the brake run. I also added more details to the lift hill and managed to get the track down again.

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The brake run with new bents.

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The bents on the great curve

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The bents on the fan curve

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I added this little detail to the base of the lift hill for the chain

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And I added the detail for the chain at the top of the lift hill

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A lift hill track shot

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And finally an overview of my work so far

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I think you did a perfect design for your first operating model. Simple and accessible so you can tweak the track if you need too. One concept I was thinking about, were i to ever tackle an operable model, is to start at the brakes and build backwards, test running the train as I build to make sure it makes it back to the station. Have you tried running a car down.

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I think you did a perfect design for your first operating model. Simple and accessible so you can tweak the track if you need too. One concept I was thinking about, were i to ever tackle an operable model, is to start at the brakes and build backwards, test running the train as I build to make sure it makes it back to the station. Have you tried running a car down.

 

I have made the drop and the bottom of the drop transition and I ran a single carriage down the first drop and it pick up some speed and shot off the end so i have a feeling i could work. The track has been difficult. When the styrene track is bent into shape after a while it tries to go back to how it was kind of like a spring so it been tough. And keeping the track gauge has been a challenge in some places. The process is taking a while and I will post an update on it when I have more of the track down.

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Looks good. I haven't tried to bend styrene which is that thick, but I understand that it can be made easier to bend by heating it. It seems something of a dark art to get the temperature right though. Too little and it wont bend, too much and it will melt and loose its square cross section. You would need a former to attach it to so it holds its shape as it cools as well. Ive also heard of some folks slicing lateral cuts into the inside surface of the bend, to make it bend a little easier.

 

How about this idea: You could use smaller square beams which are easier to bend, and laminate them up to the size you need. Start at the inside bottom corner (closest to guide wheels) on either side to make the gauge easier to maintain, and build them up and out. Have a look at what the guy doing the Rye airplane did with his track. What Im suggesting isn't exactly like that, but similar. The laminations should also hold the track to shape so it wont strain against any glue and pop out at a later date. The down side is that it will be more fiddly to do, and once the track part is glued it cant be adjusted much, so if its a bit wrong, you have to take it out, and build a new piece. Of course you could mix techniques, and use thick stuff for the gentler curves, and laminate the tighter stuff.

 

Are there any softer alternatives to styrene that would be easier to manipulate but still hard enough to not bog down the train?

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Looks good. I haven't tried to bend styrene which is that thick, but I understand that it can be made easier to bend by heating it. It seems something of a dark art to get the temperature right though. Too little and it wont bend, too much and it will melt and loose its square cross section. You would need a former to attach it to so it holds its shape as it cools as well. Ive also heard of some folks slicing lateral cuts into the inside surface of the bend, to make it bend a little easier.

 

How about this idea: You could use smaller square beams which are easier to bend, and laminate them up to the size you need. Start at the inside bottom corner (closest to guide wheels) on either side to make the gauge easier to maintain, and build them up and out. Have a look at what the guy doing the Rye airplane did with his track. What Im suggesting isn't exactly like that, but similar. The laminations should also hold the track to shape so it wont strain against any glue and pop out at a later date. The down side is that it will be more fiddly to do, and once the track part is glued it cant be adjusted much, so if its a bit wrong, you have to take it out, and build a new piece. Of course you could mix techniques, and use thick stuff for the gentler curves, and laminate the tighter stuff.

 

Are there any softer alternatives to styrene that would be easier to manipulate but still hard enough to not bog down the train?

 

Thanks for the comment, Iv actually been heating the sticks with a hair dryer as it isn't as strong heat, this seams to work kind of, then I tape the beams down to the plans I drew and let them stay bent and taped for a few hours. Iv started over bending sections so that when it springs back its kind of how I want it. The first section (the lift and drop) are done but it just takes a long long time, Iv just started working on the over banked curve. The idea with laminating the layers up is good. I also have a silicon plastic trip on the way to see how that is but i don't think the bearings on the trains will run as good on that material. This size styrene is harder to bend but my idea was to maintain a smooth inside surface for the guide wheels and building the layers up could cause more bumpiness? Id say the track is going to take me a month or so basically doing trial and error at the moment. Then I have lots more details to do before the whole model is anywhere near done.

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Iv started to get busy now so can't work as much on the model as I would like. Heres some pictures of the track being put on. The drop is done and the lift hill is done. But for some reason the bottom of the lift hill likes to kink out to the left because of the top of the lift hill and how it bends and drops to the left, so attaching it to the station was difficult. Its looking good I think its a slow progress but fun seeing each section in place. After the track is laid I have more cross ties to add to the bottom of the track in all the large gaps between the supports.

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Is the car able to drive thru the track? Os is it a non-moving-model? And does it feature Inversions?

But it looks very cool and I can't wait to see it finished!

 

Hey, The car does roll on the track but doesn't make it over the first over banked curve due to a few reasons. Iv stopped putting the track on at the moment as I had a few other ideas. The model has the potential to work, its just having the money and time to sit and make the track exactly perfect. There ins't inversions as the scale is to small for me to make a train with up stop wheels. If I had planned on the model to be a static model from day 1 then maybe I would of added a barrel roll or even better a Zero G roll stall But as I planned on it working I kept the layout simple. Work on the model will pick up again soon when my new plastic supplies arrive

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Update: its been a while, the track was becoming so difficult I basically just gave up with it and lost all desire to continue. Then I bought silicone strips cos I thought that would be a great idea not realising that you can't paint it that easily. I managed to spray paint them red but its not the best but easier to work with with making the track bend but then of course I came across another problem, no glue will stick silicone to plastic and it just removes the paint.... I have another track idea but I don't want to spend the money of tones of materials. Making the model work is now basically Impossible so now my aim is to make it look as good as I can. Mean while, while I was having a huff and a puff over the track I started to build my S&S shot n drop tower out of strips of thick an thin Plastic, so here's a look at the silicone track and the s&s tower

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