chauncey

I really wish I still had Discovery Channel! Ah, but, again, I need to save up! Save! Save! Save! Or else, I won't be able to go to these parks next year !

I'm very interested in doing that! Personally, I can't afford a videocamera, especially considering all the parks I plan on going to next year! I need to save up! So, photos are all I have . Anyways. Sounds great . I'm also interested in the RCT contests, although, most certainly, I'll never finish anything! I never do . Goodnes. What's with all these frowny faces? I'm depressing .

"I am the fly" by Wire, from "Chairs missing".

There's nothing wrong with looking forward to a new rollercoaster. Any new rollercoaster is a wonderful thing, and especially any new type of rollercoaster is a wonderful thing. However, people are rushing around making assumptions about it, but they have no real knowledge of it. It's sort of "Don't count your chickens before they hatch", only here, to continue with that analogy, the chicken hasn't even finished building her nest, let alone started laying her eggs! Futhermore, I think you should be especially cautious about this one, because no recent B&M ride has met expectations, no recent SF ride has met expectations, and no Flyer has met expectations. And yet, here people are, filling this up with expectations. I hope it's as great as it seems, but it most likely won't be...

You haven't even seen the layout! It might be B&M's first kiddie flyer for all you know! I'm waiting until they either show us the renderings, or really get going on building it, whichever comes first. well, lets see why i'm looking forward to it 1)it isn't a kiddie coaster 2)it is 1hr. from my house 3)it is a terrain coaster (TAKE THAT El Toro and Goliath) 4)I love flyers 5)SFMM ROXORS! 6)It is a terrain flyer-i expect some close to the ground dives n' such, which would rule 1. How do you know? 3. How do you know? 6. How do you know? The rest make sense, although they'd apply to ANY rollercoaster that might be built there. Again, how do you know? Too often people hype up a rollercoaster, and are proven wrong. It might just be a Superman clone. Why not? It might be completely forceless. Why not? And, no, we can't safely say it won't be a kiddie flyer! The only thing we know about the layout right now is that it includes a station! Wow.

You haven't even seen the layout! It might be B&M's first kiddie flyer for all you know! I'm waiting until they either show us the renderings, or really get going on building it, whichever comes first. My most looked forward to, at the moment, is The Voyage, with Expedition Everest close behind. El Toro also looks good, along with the 2 Great Coaster International woodies. The Superman coaster opening in Australia later this year looks amazing, too. There doesn't seem to be very many impressive loopers, though. They all look pretty standard. They'll all be good rides, but none will be great rides. The Tusynfryd rocket might be the exception, but I want to see a better rendering!

I don't think anyone does Python first. I think everyone does Scorpion because "it only loops once", while Python loops twice, and, so, seems worse. I also think it has a higher height restriction. The ironic thing is that Scorpion is actually more intense, although Python is quite rough.

Mine was Scorpion at BGT. So far the topic is all Schwarzkopfs! I wonder if everyone's first looping coaster was a Schwarzkopf? That would be kind of cool.

B&M has said publicly that's a load of bull! Arrow has said publicly that's a load of bull! And I can say right now that a lot of your speculation is a load of bull! Through the list: Neither has anyone else, really. B&M really impressed the industry with Kumba, and Batman The Ride, and Arrow really let down the industry with Drachen Fire. The only portion of the industry Arrow held on to were hypercoasters, because they were the only guy in town. Then Morgan come out with their's, and it was over. They tried to rebound with the Mouse, but other companies had done the same earlier, better, and cheaper. Their last hope was X, and, well, yeah... Assuming the layout was identical in every other way, reducing the gauge of the track would have no effect on the ride at all! It would simply be like taking off the 2 side rows, and the excess track used to support them. Actually, it would appear, and ride, LESS tight, if anything. 1. Arrow corkscrews weren't interlocked on this coaster, either. 2. It was the first time Arrow used one, and they never built another looper on the scale of Drachen Fire. 3. Actually, a B&M diveloop almost resembles an Arrow element! They used them as half of their "Boomerangs" (what B&M calls a Batwing), and it's simply a reverse of one of their "Sidewinders" (what B&M calls an Immelman).

"Secrets" by The Cure, from "17 Seconds".

Well the next amuesment park I'm going to is definetly going to be Walt Disney World Resort. When I'm going, though, is still undecided. The possibilites: 1. Do the Theme Park Review meet-up on the 21st. 2. Go this weekend by myself. 3. Go this weekened by myself, and do the meet up just for MNSSHP. I'm not sure yet...

Well, Mack has built both in their history, and would probably do it again, for the right cost. Also, PTC was certainly involved with at least a few of the original Flying Turns coasters, if not all of them. Both companies are still in business. The real issue is, I think, "the right cost". Does Knoebel's have the money? I think if they make the investment, no matter how steep it may seem, it will pay off. Especially if it's for the Flying Turns ride, as there's isn't a single one left (and there are 4 or 5 wooden mouse coasters left). Enthusiasts will flock to the park even more than they do now! Besides, I'd be willing to promise to ride it enough to pay back the invesment personally, if they do it!

So does Kennywood, Cedar Point, and a lot of other parks! Besides, it's quality not quantity! From what I hear Drachen Fire wasn't a quality rollercoaster, so it's good they got rid of it.

Awesome! The Euclid Beach version was, from what I hear, the tallest, fastest, most intense, Flying Turns / Bobsled ever! Anyone have any tips for moving to Pennsylvania, specifically the Knoebels area? How is the real estate, employment, quality of life, crime, etc? Can't be much worse than Tampa! Or can it? :?

The inversion that was removed was the corkscrew after the midcourse breakrun.

None of them exist anywhere, at the moment, unless you count bobsleds. We do have a couple of bobsleds here.

I never realised it was so slow! It seems to crawl through a lot of it's course.

Well, I'm not one to care about roughness, personally. However, I think people are really excited by Drachen Fire for a lot of reasons. It's a very beautiful ride, with a lot of unique elements, that was new when it closed, and so few people ever got to ride it.

Nobody "manufactures" wooden rollercoasters, unless they're prefabricated. The parks either higher out a construction company, or, in the case of Knoebel's, build them in-house. The designs of Knoebel's coasters are modified from existing plans by the park and John Fetterman. This coaster will probably be built the same way. They'll buy the plans (or have bought the plans) to a defunct Flying Turns rollercoaster, redesign them with the help of John Fetterman, and "manufacture" them in-house. That's what I meant.

Knoebel's build their own coasters.

If they get one I'd move in next door and go there every day. Seriously. A true flying turns coaster is not just a bobsled made out of wood. They had extreme turns, drops, laterals, airtime, etc. They were built by a former airforce fighter pilot to replicate the feeling of ariel combat, with some help from John Miller in the begining. These things were top thrill rides on par with anything, unlike bobsleds which are family coasters (although quite enjoyable family coasters, from what I hear). They're my favorite lost coaster style. It would be awesome if Knobel's would get one. It would be more awesome if Busch Gardens got one, though.

I don't count clones as credits, myself, so that's debatable. However, what I meant is that while people may not know about them, they really aren't very interesting to see. Things like that crazy Intamin multilooper in the middle of nowhere are really interesting to look at, because they're things you've never seen before. A Little Dipper, though, is something everybody's seen, even if it isn't that exact Little Dipper.

Okay, another one from the same site! Everbody knows about the Tobu Zoo looping wild mouse, right? Now how about a looping and corkscrewing wild mouse? Eh? Here you go: http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://drkssk.fc2web.com/zekkyou/local/maru/loopcork/loopcork.html&prev=/language_tools This link is to the Google-translated version of the page.

I'm not sure if well-known standard models like Monster Mouse and Little Dipper really count, even if they are unknown installations.

My mom is scared of just about everything. If it goes up, she won't ride it. If it goes own, she won't ride it. If it spins, she won't ride it. If it's in the dark, she won't ride it. If it does anything remotely exciting, or scary, she won't ride it. She pretty much just rides It's A Small World, other similarly "friendly" dark-rides, and transport rides (like the train). I don't tend to get too scared on rides. Maybe if it's something new. I never do flat-rides, though. The repition is both boring, and nauseating. I can't stand it! I bet Spinning Coasters are the same way, though I've never tried one.