robbalvey

Please stop pretending that you know more than the ride ops. You don't. Again, you're fine. If you are too scared to go on a ride that you need constant ride op attention checking your restraint when it's not needed or required, then you shouldn't be riding that roller coaster. Or maybe grow some balls. Either one of the two options here would be your solution.

It was your condescending tone. "Wasn't this thread about restraint checks?" Like, no shit as it's in the fucking title. You're just posting that to talk down to either myself or whoever else your thought was directed at. It wasn't needed and it devalued the rest of your post. I'm here to help you make better posts. No need to give me crap about it. Can we please move on now? Thanks...

I'm going to point this out just so you're aware for future posts and maybe you'll think twice about where to conclude your thoughts next time.... This is a perfectly well-written thought that intelligently presented your argument, and for that I thank you. This is the part that made you sound like an obnoxious asshole. It was not needed and adds nothing to your overall thought other than perhaps giving yourself less credibility to the reader. Please carry on discussion now...

WTF? We're talking about B&M flyers and modern rides and you bring up an accident where it was proven the restraint was not a fault, a water ride with a velcro strap which isn't even CLOSE to being the same thing we were discussing, and then a ride from like 45 years ago. Stop being such an obnoxious asshole. No one cares about the invalid point you're trying to make. Thanks.

The ride op is 100% correct and doing his job in this situation. Sorry that you were scared of the ride, but honestly, you're fine. You stopping the ride op TWICE to ask to have your restraint re-checked actually delayed the dispatch of the train. Don't do this again!

The "tug the yellow strap" is only for rides that have seat belts to confirm that the seat belt is fastened properly. Other rides that have lap bars, like Space Mountain, Thunder Mountain, or Expedition Everest, you have to push up on the bar to show that it's locked.

Interesting topic. Here's another question to add to the discussion... Is Disney the only park where the ride ops DO NOT TOUCH the restraints themselves, but instead the operators tell each guest to check their own restraint while they watch? Does anyone else think this is actually way more efficient and safer/more comfortable for the guests besides me? And if yes to that last question, why aren't other parks adopting this system????

See I liked it MUCH more than the first one and found this one to be far more interesting. I remember watching the first one and not "getting" why so many people were going crazy over it. But I really enjoyed this film a lot. Then again, I'm not really a "Marvel Universe" die-hard and the idea of "ranking them" is sort of amusing to me! lol I always go into Marvel films just thinking they will be good action/super hero films and I come out of it asking myself "Did I enjoy that?" and not putting too much thought into other than that. I know some people go absurdly crazy over these films and over-analyze every bit of minutia about them, but that is not me at all. I just look for a fun, entertaining couple of hours and that is EXACTLY what this movie is.

“So, we’re saving the galaxy again?” --Rocket Just got back from the US press screening of Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2. I'm not going to give away any spoilers for the film, but since it's been out in several markets already I'm sure they are out there online if you want to read up. Personally I like this sequel more than the original film. For some reason I felt it harder to get a connection with the characters in the first movie as I felt like they were all fighting with each other, and then suddenly they were all friends. That origin story just never sat well with me. For this sequel, we don't need to get into any of that origin stuff and we just get right into the action, and there is PLENTY of fun action throughout the entire film. It starts off with the Guardians having done work "Ayesha" protecting their expensive and somewhat important "batteries" in an amazing opening credits sequence that is probably one of the comedic highlights of the film! Even from the opening of the movie, you know it's going to be amazing! Those "batteries" end up being a McGuffin throughout the rest of the movie to add some tension and plot lines to keep the action and fighting going, even though the movie tends to dip into some more serious character development moments. I won't explain further, just go see the movie and you'll understand. Kurt Russell is AWESOME in the film and I always felt that Chris Pratt seemed like a younger Kurt Russell so that made his role even more perfect! in fact all of the characters seemed much more developed in this sequel and I felt far more connecter to them than I did in the original. Baby Groot also steals the show whenever he is on screen. Which brings in another aspect of the movie: The animation and visual effects are non stop. It is just constant eye candy of awesomeness! And at no point does any of it not feel it fits organically within the world the movie is set in. So many films you see and think "That looks like CGI....yup, more GCI" but Guardians does it perfectly and it fits! I loved just *looking* at the screen! The movie is funny, VERY funny in that witty and intelligently written sort of way. There is non-stop action and character development, and overall I felt that this sequel fixes everything I felt didn't seem right about the first one. I hope it does VERY well for Marvel and Disney as I give it a solid A+ as comic book to movie films go. Oh, and be sure to stay through the entire credits. There are five, that's right FIVE post-credits scenes!

This is EXACTLY my thought. We once did an ACE tour (huge mistake on our part) before TPR was really a thing and I can remember several times on that trip we would wait for people who were late. One of the days I want to say we waited about 30 minutes for someone which ended up making us late for our day at the park. Why were we and everyone else on the bus being punished for being on time? Screw those people. Leave without them! If you can't be bothered enough to be responsible to get your butt out of bed and respectful to everyone else on the tour who was responsible, you get left behind. PERIOD! We use this example all the time. If the ship says they are leaving at a certain time, you make DAMN SURE you are on the boat!!! Same thing with airlines. You can't call the airline and say "Hey, I'm really tired and I just got out of bed, please hold the plane 20 minutes longer and I'll be there as soon as I can!" Who are these people who think a schedule should be catered and changed specifically for them? People who are NOT on our tours, that's who!

Theme Park Review was fortunate enough to be invited to a "Media Sneak Peek" for Pandora The World of Avatar at Disney's Animal Kingdom. We were told many times by the Imagineers that were there hosting our tour through Pandora that we were among some of the first non-Imagineering guests to step foot inside of the new land. They have even limited access to cast members as their cast member previews don't even start until this week. Needless to say we were honored... While the photos & videos below will give you a far better idea of this new land, here's some honest thoughts and musing about Pandora... I went into it with medium to high expectations being that I have never seen the movie Avatar but this is Disney so I expected it to look great, but I wasn't sure what my interest level would be in it. Unlike the Potter lands where I also have not seen any of those movies, where by not knowing the property you are even more confused about what is happening within that land, I did not feel the same way about Pandora. At no point did I feel having not seen the movie impacted my overall enjoyment of the area, and I was completely blown away. The insane, and I mean *INSANE* amount of detail given to the landscaping and scenery of the land is not something we have seen done on this level. The photos do not do it justice. The rides were both great. Full disclosure: I am not a fan of media-based attractions, but the "Flight of Passage" (Banshee ride) was amazing! For those of you who find Soarin' too tame and wished it was more thrilling, this ride is for you! It's like a combination of the giant screen of Soarin' with the mild short drops of Tower of Terror that actually give you that "airtime" feeling in your stomach. When you look behind you and watch the ride vehicle you can see it moves quite a bit and jumps quite far and at a good pace. And them added fact that you can feel your Banshee "breathing" or heart beating or whatever is also a ridiculous attention to detail. I absolutely LOVED this ride! The boat ride was VERY impressive looking with some crazy visual effects. It does not have any "drops" and it a perfect mild attraction and that park desperately needed another ride with no height restriction at all that "everyone can ride." I'll be honest and say that part of me wished it would have been a bit more like Shanghai's Pirates, but it's more of a slower moving boat ride, and that's fine. It's visuals and animatronics will be a huge hit with everyone! Then the area at night was just crazy looking. And we only got to see a small portion of it and they said it wasn't even near complete, and we'll see a lot more done to it by our next media event in 12 days. Overall, It was just impressive and words or photos really cannot do it justice. This joins New Fantasyland and Cars Land in the "Tokyo Disney level" of theming we've seen out of WDI lately in the US. And I cannot imagine how insane Star Wars land is going to look. So now onto LOTS of photos with some video! Here we are bright and early at Animal Kingdom! Yes, we have been invited to take a sneak peek at Pandora The World of Avatar! We have been staring at that green door for quite some time, and now we get to find out what is behind it! Upon entering Pandora you start to get a little bit of an idea of the story about the land. You have been invited by Alpha Centauri Expeditions to take part of a tour on this other world. And immediately entering the land, you realize that this is going to not look like anything you've ever seen at a theme park. Imagineers explain that this land is "not based on the story of the film of Avatar, but on the overall world of Pandora." Meaning that if you haven't seen the movie, that doesn't mean you cannot be amazed by this world! As you walk in, the plant life and vegetation does not look like anything that belongs to "Earth." There are some things that seem somewhat familiar, but nothing you've really seen before. The incredible landscaping is EVERYWHERE you look! Walking a bit further you can see a lot more larger structures through the trees. As you come around the corner the big reveal of the floating mountains. PIctures do not do it justice. It is so huge and insane looking in person! Another angle showing more of the alien vegetation. I swear that looks like a monkey pushing a rock! Close up on our monkey character. Close up on a rock. The detail is just insane! Seriously, this is a *theme park* unlike anything we've seen before. All of a sudden Walt Disney World has a land that is on the level of a park like Tokyo DisneySEA. Nothing else in Orlando even comes close to this level of detail! There will be a show here at the "Drum Circle" or you can come bang on these when the show is not going on. And here we are! TPR is very happy to be part of this awesome sneak peek! Stop what you are doing right now and watch this video. This gives you a MUCH better idea of what the area looks like during both the day and night! Pay careful attention to not only the visuals but the sound as it changes from the daytime to the nighttime! Our first attraction we will experience will be the Na'vi River Journey. Some of the theming as you enter the queue. As you can see this attraction does not have any height restriction at all. This is a very welcome addition to the park as most of the other attractions, other than the shows, have a height restriction. This ride is accessible to everyone, and we think that's awesome! More theming of the outdoor queue area. When you get indoors, here is the loading area for the boats. The boats are a much smaller version of what you'd see on Pirates or Small World, but there are a LOT of them. I'm sure this ride is going to have a very high capacity! The ride itself is just amazing looking. There are parts of this attraction where you're not sure if it's a screen or an animatronic as it blends together so well. Everything inside the ride feels so organic. The bioluminescent glow is on almost everything in this attraction. And of course you'll find Na'vi from the world of Avatar inside the attraction. These small lizard-like creatures you'll see crawling above you on the plants look fantastic! And the Shaman animatronic towards the end of the ride is one of the best figures we've ever seen! We were allowed to post some "highlights" of the ride. Check out this clip. It will give you an idea of how amazing the visuals are on this attraction!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6e_ohve_qA After the boat ride we headed over to "Flight of Passage" and of course that requires walking under floating rocks! Again, the level of detail in the landscaping and the depth is just CRAZY. We have not seen anything else like this at any other park! This ride is a bit more thrilling and carries a 44" height restriction, the same as Expedition Everest over on the other side of the park. Just look at that! It's nuts! And this is all part of the queue for Flight of Passage (aka the "Banshee Ride" as we like to call it!) Is that a real lizard or some crazy Pandora world creature? We're not sure! lol Still walking through the queue pathway getting to the main building. This is your surroundings and it's just incredible! We are now inside the building. We had no idea this ride would house one of the best themed queues we've ever seen. Certainly the best in Orlando and it's right up there with attractions like Journey to the Center of the Earth at Tokyo DisneySEA. The storyline is a bit more involved but we'll paraphrase it for you... It's years after the bad guys did evil stuff to Pandora and now we are trying to help fix that, and conserve the relationship that the Na'vi had with the Banshee creatures. Banshees have a special connection with Na'vi that humans don't quite understand, and once a Banshee and Na'vi are "linked" they are linked forever. The Pandora Conservation Institute is here to help right some of the wrongs that the bad guys (RDA) did in the past and help study and understand the connection with the Banshee. Did I cover it all? I think so! There are areas of the queue where you can see where the "RDA" from the movie did their bad stuff and it looks more like a compound that it does a natural environment. As you get further into it, you reach the more natural areas of the world that are being preserved to help understand the Banshee. This section of the queue is incredibly detailed and themed. You can see the areas where the RDA stopped drilling and doing their bad stuff and now we are trying to fix that and make good with the world of Pandora. More bioluminescent natural beauty of Pandora. We made it to one of the labs where they are studying the inhabitants of the land and where you'll also find them linking characters to Avatars to explore the world of the Banshee. These sections of the queue remind me a lot of Journey to the Center of the Earth. So much detail to look at here. It will take us a few laps through the queue to take a look through all this cool stuff and find many hidden details. Just more examples of what we are talking about. Another reminder of the world that the Pandora Conservation Institute is doing. More of the creatures that are found and studied on Pandora. Here you can see a character being linked with the Avatar to ride the Banshee. And yes, that is a REAL figure in there! That's not a projection! This video shows it off even better... [fbvideonew] [/fbvideonew] The effects and amount of detail is almost overwhelming. Some of the coolest looking visual candy we've seen in a themed area gets overshadowed by even COOLER looking stuff! As you move forward through the facility there are paintings on the walls that help describe the important connection that Na'vi have with the Banshee. Here on this giant screen you can see characters being linked with the Banshee's, weather conditions, and more information you'll need on your journey. So many details to look at around every corner. The final room leading up to the boarding areas. I just love the overall "sci-fi" feeling this queue and area has. It's a nice contrast from the organic feel outside and earlier on in the queue. The boarding system is also high-tech and fascinating. In this pre-show room the system know if you are standing on your number or if you are not. So please pay attention and stand on your number! Here is where you will be cleaned of any contamination from the outside world and you will be linked to an Avatar so you can ride a Banshee, which humans themselves are not able to do. When all that is done, you continue on to the next room. The story explains more of what the RDA did to impact the Banshee ecosystem and what is now being done to correct the damage. The human driver is connected to the Avatar so it will be safe for them to ride the Banshee. The ride itself is just incredible. As I said, I'm not usually a fan of screen-based rides, but this ride system is so cool and it does so much more than a typical "simulator." The ride vehicle is like a "bicycle seat" and you can even feel the Banshee breath while you are riding it. The goggles are also unlike any 3-D glasses we've seen, and they will fit comfortably over your regular glasses. The ride gets a HUGE thumbs up! The best way to describe it is like a combination of the giant screen of Soarin' mixed with the motion of Star Tours, but adding in the smaller sized "drops" of Tower of Terror. Throughout the ride you can feel the ride vehicle move quite a bit and you do get that "airtime feeling" in your stomach when the vehicle drops. Yes, it's a media-based ride, but the actual ride system is VERY COOL and had quite a bit of action to it! While we were not able to take video of the attraction during this preview, we were able to show you the loading process for the ride, which will give you an idea of what the ride vehicle is like... Now that we have ridden, it's time for some lunch! Outside the restaurant area is one of these mechs from the RDA. Don't worry, it's no longer in service doing damage to the area! Behind the mech is a small quick-serve bar mostly for drinks and light snacks. But we are going to head into Satu'li Canteen and check out this quick service restaurants options! It's always a happy moment when you see dudes at the grill cooking up some meat! Here's the lunch & dinner menu. Those Satu'li Bowls are DELICIOUS!!! The breakfast menu. Drinks and desserts. And something new! You will be able to pre-order your meal on your mobile device through the My Disney Experience app similar to how you would order Starbucks on the app, and then come pick it up at the restaurant. No waiting in a line to order! We *LOVE* this idea! Here's an overview of some of the food offerings. The cheeseburger and curry "pods" were great! But the real winner here were these Satu'li Bowls. You choose your meat, your sauce and some extras and you have a winning combo. We are told there are 50 different combos you can make! The roasted grilled beef with the Chimichurri sauce was wonderful! They gave us a nice spread so we can sample a little bit of everything! Here was my plate and everything we sampled was high quality and delicious! I think this restaurant will be a huge success and it's nice to see something very different being served here. Both desserts were also great! Please do not make me have to choose between the dark chocolate and the cheesecake! And just like the rest of the land, the theming inside of the restaurant is filled with incredible detail. And the MOST IMPORTANT feature of all! That's right! Coca-Cola! No James Cameron saying "We didn't have Coca-Cola in the movie so we don't have it in the land!" No, he's at least realistic, and for that we thank him! We see you floating mountain! And of course no theme park land would be complete without some cool merchandise to buy so let's go check out what we have in the Windtraders shop! So this little guy is a personal customizable Avatar that you can buy. They take your personal "DNA" and transfer it into an Avatar figure! Your data is all stored in this card which you use at a machine to create your custom character! It's very cool! And another super cool item was these little guys! That's right! You can even adopt your very own baby Banshee! They move and are very detailed! We love these! I am SURE people are going to go crazy for these characters! Seeing these little guys in motion is even better! Take a look at this video of the baby Banshees! [fbvideonew] [/fbvideonew] There is plenty of logo merch for the area and attractions. Some nice Pandora signage. The area will even have it's own merchandise bags different from the rest of the park! Outside you'll have face paints that will paint you themed to Avatar characters. Which one will you choose? This one is kind of cool! Here's the traditional Avatar. Hmm...maybe I'll go for this two-faced one! More merchandise for you to collect.... I love the socks! And YES you can even buy a tail!!! Coming back into the area at night it's like a completely different world! The area is alive with bioluminescence everywhere you look! We were told this is just a small sampling of what the completed area at night will look like and when we come back for the next media event we should see a lot more. But what we see now looks AMAZING! Not only does the area LOOK different, but it also SOUNDS very different, too. There are different animal and ambient sounds at night versus during the day. These bioluminescent pathways are a lot of fun to walk through! And you'll be able to get some cool creative selfies at night, too! A very proud Joe Rohde, who is the lead designer and producer of Pandora! He should be proud! He and his team did an incredible job, and once again, words and pictures do not do it justice. You HAVE to come see this in person!!! We were just blown away by it! Thank you for reading! Be sure to POST YOUR COMMENTS!!! (we took the time to write the report, the least you could do is say something nice about it!) The Missile_[R]_(Real).nlpack Elissa uses her "big hose" to put out the fire!!!

We posted a 360 tour of Avatar. You'll need to watch this on your phone in the YouTube app for it to work properly:

I actually never saw the movie nor do I care about it. That being said, I felt like that didn't impact anything at all. This could have been an "original IP land" as far as I'm aware and I was sold on it just fine if I think about it that way!

We are at Avatar for a media sneak peek! I'll have a full report later, but here's some updates so far.... We have arrived @WDWToday #AnimalKingdom! We may or may not be getting a preview of Pandora! This is what we are doing this morning! Follow along! We will tweet as much as we are allowed! What's the best way to start your morning @WDWToday? Mickey Mouse waffles of course!!! We are about to go behind the wall and get a sneak peek of #VisitPandora Stefan from WDI: "This is not about the movie Avatar, this is about the World of Pandora." We have just walked into the World of Pandora! [twitter] [/twitter] Words do not do justice of how good things looks in person!!! WOW!!! [twitter] [/twitter] I simply cannot say enough words to describe how amazing this all looks! Entrance to the Na'vi River Journey attraction! We will be riding soon! In the queue for the Na'vi River Journey A look inside the Na'vi River Journey! The attraction is absolutely BEAUTIFUL!!! In the queue for the Flight of Passage attraction! The detail is incredible! [twitter] [/twitter] Level of detail in Flight of Passage queue is CRAZY! The ride is by far the best media-based attraction I've done! A very proud @Joe_Rohde hanging out in #Pandora. He and the WDI team did an incredible job!

And hey, if that 17th ride is that important to you, and you can still run and make the bus, GREAT! But if you miss it, and that ride was worth hiring a taxi or (what some people have actually done) is take a Greyhound bus to meet up with the tour, we're all for it! lol Just don't blame us because we didn't force you to take that 17th ride! Seriously though, it would always amuse me when someone would do this and then be late for the bus and miss it and then the next day shout at me and chew me out. And my only response would be "54 people made it to the bus on time without issue. *YOU* were the only one that was late. So don't try to tell me this somehow wasn't your fault..." And that either usually shuts them up or makes them so angry that they go post to a TPR hate page for the next 14 years. Either route they choose doesn't affect us in the least bit.

We have to set a precedent. If we were to have waited 15 minutes for the guy then the precedent would have been "TPR's departure times don't mean anything, I can be 15 minutes late." In our first few years we probably left someone behind at least once, sometimes twice a trip. What was funny about it as that up until the point in which we left without someone, everyone would always get to the bus right on the wire. If we said the bus left at 9:00, people would be walking on the bus at 8:58 or 8:59, some people right at 9:00. But the moment we left without someone, EVERYONE was on the bus at like 8:50! lol Which just goes to show you how insanely lazy people are. Because if you were able to get on the bus at 8:50 once you saw we weren't fucking around about the departure time, why couldn't you have been on the bus at 8:50 every day?

okay so I used to bitch about people being late that had kids before I had kids and they would get mad at me for it and say something along the lines of "you don't have kids you don't understand" well here I am now with a nearly 4 year old and a year and half old and i am still never late to anything. sure the random blowout of a diaper can slow you down but that's not an everyday thing. Those people are just piss poor at planning ahead and respecting others whom they have made plans with. I hear you. Before kids, i used to be an on time person. Now when I go somewhere without kids, I'm very early due to chronically overestimating how much time it takes to get ready to leave. THIS! EXACTLY THIS!!! IMO there is absolutely *NO EXCUSE* for someone being late. We now all have traffic maps to plan ahead if there is a delay, if you are someone who has kids or requires extra time, you BUILD THAT TIME into your estimate. I will never understand people who seem to think it's "okay" to show up at 10:45 when you said 10:30 and then give you a bunch of stupid excuses. The *ONLY* excuse that holds water to me is "I'm sorry I'm late. I'm just really bad at planning my day and it's my fault I couldn't be bothered to leave 15 minutes earlier." We would get a lot of people seriously upset at us when on a trip the bus would leave without them. IMO on our TPR Tours you really only had *ONE* responsibility... "don't be late." And if you fucked that one, too bad. Now you're on your own to meet up with the bus. I remember on one trip we had someone who wasn't on time. I called their room and they said "I'm really sorry, I'm still getting ready. I'll be down in 15 minutes." I told them "grab your crap and get down here NOW. The bus leaves in 2 minutes." 2 minutes later the bus left without him. I got scathing and vulgar messages and when he had to spend his own money meeting back up with the tour he shouted at me for a good while about it. I simply told him "There was NO REASON at all you couldn't have grabbed your stuff and been out of the hotel in two minutes." I'm pretty sure this person is still on one of the TPR hate pages angry at us for something that was THEIR FAULT that happened in 2006 or 2007.

And just to give you an idea of how much I actually DO support "physical media" of the past... That is just part of my collection of retro games... ...Although as I say that, I realize I still play 95% of my retro games on my RetroPie where I have them all digitally stored!

See, it's funny. I feel exactly the opposite. I support having physical media for "retro" things when that media was the only way that content was delivered, but for modern stuff, I can't stand it. Case in point: I bought a Nintendo Switch bundle that came with a bunch of physical games. I immediately sold all of them and downloaded the digital versions. There was just no reason at all for me to have these physical cartridges and cases that took up space and could get lost. I'd much rather have it all on one system and not have to look for the carts to swap them out. Same thing with the WiiU. It annoys me to no end when a game is physical media ONLY and I have to go looking for the disc or something.... Isn't it "simpler" now with everything being digital? Using a video game again as an example, Isn't it "simpler" to turn on your device and click the content you want? How is it "simpler" to have to turn on your device, go looking for the content you want to use from a shelf, grab that item off the shelf, open it up, take the media out of the case, eject the media that's currently in the device, put that media back in the case, put that case back on the shelf, insert the new media into the device, wait for it to load up, and then start your game? And to get that content in the first place, I don't have to get in my car, drive to a store, get out of my car, walk into the store, go browsing for the item that I want, hope that they have the item that I want, go look for a customer service clerk that has a key to the cabinet in which my content is locked into, wait for them to come over and unlock it, get the game I want, take it to the check out, stand in line at the cashier, pay for the item, walk back out to my car, get in my car and drive home, get home and unwrap the item, and then read the paragraph above. All I have to do now is go to the online Nintendo Store, tap the item I want and use the saved credit card information on file and BAM! The game starts downloading to my system. How is it more "simple" having physical media? Sorry I just don't grasp the concept that you're speaking about.

The biggest issue with this is that it takes almost the same effort to do a downloadable version as it does a physical version. So if I don't have a lot of incentive to do a physical version that would make it worth my while, a free downloadable version is even further away from happening! (just being honest!) The unfortunate reality of this is that there is going to be a finite number of things that those Club TPR credits are good for and if you've been a member of Club TPR you probably also know that the exclusive videos we did for Club members also went over about as well as this poll did. So at some point in the future I probably just need to remove that benefit, but I guess it's still nice for people who are finding the site for the first time and haven't ever downloaded anything.

Yeah, sorry, it has. I would have needed an overwhelming OMG YES response for this to happen. Honestly, this is what I was expecting, but it's always nice to ask the questions just in case we were missing some bit of information. Regardless, thanks to everyone for the support!

Well, based on the feedback already I can tell you that it's not looking likely that there will be another Roller Coaster in the RAW. If we can't even get 50 people interested, honestly it's not worth our time and effort. Those take a CONSIDERABLE amount of effort to put together and so far we have 17 people who would want one, and my past experience tells me 30% of those people would flake out when it comes time to buy. If we had like 75-80 people were all "ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY I WANT IT!!!" then SOLD! I'd do it. But as I suspected, the demand is no longer there. And that's fine. I'm at least glad I asked! Thank you everyone for your feedback! (and LOL to the idiot guy in this thread we had to ban over something so incredibly stupid!)

^^ Your story is very much like the people we used to have to put up with on our trips. Elissa and I would figuratively take a beating from people like this until we just couldn't take it anymore, which is why we stopped. Your whole example about Cedar Point and the water main is perfect. Yes it happened, and yes it sucks. But I assure you that the park was probably even MORE freaked out by it than the guests. And if there is one thing we have learned, being calm and rational gets you a lot further than being obnoxious and horrible. I can't tell you how many times we've hosted events, even at West Coast Bash where I've had people running up to me, arms flailing yelling at me "ERT STARTED FIVE MINUTES AGO AND THIS RIDE ISN'T OPEN YET YOU SAID THE RIDES WOULD START AT 6:00 AND IT IS 6:04 AND THIS RIDE ISN'T OPEN YOU NEED TO GO TALK TO SOMEONE AND GET THE RIDES OPEN BECAUSE WE ALL PAID MONEY FOR THIS EVENT AND THE RIDES ARE STILL NOT OPEN YET WHAT AM I GOING TO DO OH MY GOD THIS IS LIKE THE WORLD COMING TO AN END OR TRUMP GETTING RE-ELECTED PLEASE GO TELL SOMEONE TO OPEN THE RIDES OMG OMG OMG!!!!!" and then 6:05 the ride opens. Ugh. Yeah, we just couldn't take it anymore and that's why we only do our trips now privately and by invite only. It's the only way we were able to weed out the larger assholes from our trips. On a more of a bummer note, it's sad your friend lives here in Florida. She sounds just like all the obnoxious Orlando fanboys that go around complaining about EVERYTHING. I can't stand them either.

This is insanity. This is not a "yes or no" question this is an "are you interested?" question. We aren't looking to know how many people AREN'T interested, we need to know how many people ARE interested. Doesn't matter because you're banned from our forum. You're exactly the kind of person we don't want to put up with.

Thank you for alerting me to the crap going on in this thread. Basically just going to ban EVERYONE being annoying. The people who posted this crap to begin with and the people who felt the need to re-post it. Neither of you are helping improve the quality of this forum.