GigaG Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 1. First things first - why did Arrow go out of business? I'm guessing it was the advent of smoother coasters by other companies, but there is something I like about the classic Arrows - probably the violent ejector airtime prominent on Magnum, Gemini, and to an extent,Corkscrew (both at CP.) 2. This question is about KI - specifically Beast - and has several parts- a. I know the Beast has magnetic brakes as trims that essentially neuter the ride. I do not know the location of every brake, I know there are brakes- I. First drop II. Second drop III. Brake shed IV. Drop off of second lift hill Did I miss any trims? b. Where is the brake mechanism on the track? I havent't seen a magnetic mechanism on the Beast, just normal fin brakes. 3. Finally, what are the conditions that trim brakes are likely to be turned off or the effects be nullified on any roller coaster, in general. I know Magnum's are known to shut off in the wind (I think), is wind and/or rain a common anti-trim condition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simaticable Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 The first answer is that Arrow was losing clients due to competition by B&M and less and less of their products were being sold. They tried to survive with X, but that failed to generate more clients. Eventually, they were forced into bankruptcy, and assets were sold to S&S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netdvn Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 ^ X was a problematic ride from the start, and MM wasn't too happy with it so they literally sued Arrow out of existence. Usually trims being cranked up/down has to do with the speed of the train and the weight of the riders. If the train is rolling too fast, trims will kick in to slow it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I had heard that X was just way more expensive than originally budgeted, and Arrow simply ran out of money. SFMM basically went to their shop, stripped them of any last hardware that they had, paid for the project to be completed, but Arrow, when it was all said and done, had zero money in the bank, so to keep from going totally belly up, S&S came in and bought their assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPDave Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 It's probably a great deal for S&S, I can't imagine the parts business is huge given the number (and age) of installations they have in the field! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 ^ Can or can't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) ^^Oddly enough, it seems history may have come close to repeating itself. S&S has new owners in Sansei and some investment group I've never heard of (Larsen MacColl Partners LP). Luckily this doesn't appear to be ending in bankruptcy, but I have to wonder what role Ring Racer played in this? Edited October 24, 2012 by Jew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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