teacherkim

Well now that the state investigators have publicly agreed with Universal that the ride did not malfunction in any way, I'm hoping they open it back up asap. We will be there in a week and I would never cry "vacation ruined" or any other such nonsense (after all you pays your money and takes your chances) it will suck mightily to have to walk around an awesome but not running coaster all day. I freely admit I am being a bit selfish here and apologize for it and while I certainly do not want to appear insensitive; he did make his choice knowing he was going against the recommendations posted at the ride. I am very curious about the state saying they were investigating under their manslaughter law. If they acknowledge the ride is not to blame who are they accusing of manslaughter? A family member that talked him into going on it? I mean he was an adult. Or is that just verbiage to ensure the outraged that they are exploring all possibilities on blame? Curious. My heart does go out to his family and the ride ops working that day. It must have been a terrible experience.

Well of course but I don't really think it is in real danger. For a few reasons 1) Even a local news station in a story with a headline meant to imply that the park was in danger (if you bothered to read it) that attendance has stayed steady for SFSTL, no decline 2) Although it's a small regional park it makes a profit. The only thing they were losing money on was HITP which they got rid of 3) Someone from upper management told me that not only is the park going nowhere but they are already working to enhance the entertainment. I'll assume he is right and honest until I have some reason to doubt him

And you might be right, but I will say that as unsexy as boring things like new roofs, new asphalt, or new kitchen equipment is to most people; to me it is an investment in the park for the long term. Let's see how it plays out. I choose to be positive but that's just my nature

I believe that came from a Tik Toker that saw the metal "in the seat" when she left the ride. So questionable, and some people seemed to think it was simply the tool to manually open the restraint, although I was certainly not on site and don't want to do too much speculating. Unfortunately, the speculation on FB has become a juggernaut and of course lots of people that have no idea how coasters work. As I am sure everyone knows by now the poor man was wheelchair bound with an apparent spinal problem. It will all be a matter of whether or not some aspect of the ride cause it or was it caused by an unfortunate aspect of his condition.

Look I know the odds are against us but I am curious about 1) Is the park management REALLY making a big pitch, or was the person that was talking to us just selling what he knew we wanted to buy? 2) IF he is making a legit pitch, does said park management have any power/sway with corporate? 3)And what do they envision as a cool new ride? That can be pretty subjective, lol. I like that for the most part everyone on here wants something good to happen for the park. Some of us more optimistic than others but that's probably a general personality thing. In the end time will tell, it's just that the waiting is hell.

As I have said, if you look at the area encompassing Ninja, the former paint ball field, Buccaneer (easily moved), the arcade which kind of sucks now anyway, the old Chevy building (only used for storage now), Tsunami Soaker and its gift shop, the former old time photo building, Spinsanity (also easily moved); there is kind of a lot of room there. Granted that would be a huge project that probably isn't going to happen and Chop Six and the Empire might be a bit in the way..........................still, if you're going to dream might as well dream big, lol. Also, Ninja while not super popular at this point is apparently a maintenance dream that almost never has issues. Annoying.

So some reporting from the ACE event last Saturday at the park: (and keep in mind I am just the messenger here) Screamin' Eagle was down for a lift hill motor issue. Awaiting parts, could be several weeks. Bummer for sure. All the other coasters were running two trains which was really nice on a low attendance day. Beautiful weather but after Labor Day and before FF so not a huge crowd there. Even so the park very generously added a second coaster and a second hour to ert for the group of 49 attending the event. It was Freeze and Thunder plus snacks. They gave us a nice long walk back of the Boss including a chance to climb part way up the stairs leading down from the mid course brake to get a very cool view of the coaster in action. I've done it before but it isn't always offered. Log Flume had a mechanical problem with the right side of the flume and was running the seldom used left side instead, which was kind of a nice treat. For those that don't know they don't often have the staff and/or crowds for both sides and usually run the right side as it is way easier to load fast pass and ada riders. They did have some temp tiny bridges to accommodate those riders. JL running the best all season that I have experienced. Fire effect back on and mostly working as intended. Final screen still f**ked up. Everything else running normally except TS and Spinsanity of course. And I really don't remember about Fireball, I don't usually pay any attention to it. All the FF props up and ready to go and we did see what were clearly FF cast members getting a walk around as some sort of training. At one point I did see them go to the little show area for the train so MAYBE something related to FF is going to happen there? We got a twilight group ride on the carousel. The horses are magnificent and the craftsmanship really shines through. The chariots are not yet on and are still being restored which explains the mysterious fb post regarding the "real opening". I was told by management that the reason they went ahead and opened it without the chariots was as compensation for the fact that the Joker funhouse part of the queue has never opened. Although I thought that a bit of a strange connection. The reason for the funhouse not yet being open is also apparently missing parts................no elaboration on what those parts might be. At lunch I talked to 2 members of the management team. One is the new entertainment manager. He is from the area originally but spent most of his career at SFFT, but he and his wife recently moved back. He stated that there would be enhancements to the entertainment for next year and that this was already underway. He also told us that park management was lobbying for new rides(s) and other improvements with Coaster Con 2027 in mind since SFSTL is one of the host parks for that. Of course he had a crowd that wanted to hear that, we'll see. Asked two different management bigwigs about the whole food issue with the legacy memberships. One told me that he flat out had no idea, the other just repeated the all add-ons will be good at all parks line. Of course these aren't add-ons they were included as part of the memberships and I know they aren't all the same. Bottom line - it will simply be a try it and see if it works situation next year. I was told they were well aware of the 50th anniversary of Eagle next year and that they are "working on plans to celebrate". Again, we'll see but they did promise to keep the organization in the loop.

So last post about the food on legacy SF memberships until I simply try it out sometime next year and see if it works. I was as an ACE event at SFSTL and asked management at the lunch. One person flat out told me he had no idea if it was carrying over or not. The other (a very long time employee of the park) simply repeated the "all pass add ons" will be usable at all parks. Problem being this isn't an add on. It was included as part of the membership upon purchase of the membership. I know for a fact not everyone with a membership has the same food offerings, it depended on when you bought it, so.............that's where I think the confusion is. I really don't think they know and it will be a matter of just waiting to see if it is accepted or not.

You didn't derail. It's the SF corporate thread and you have every right to bring up any topic relating to SF as a company. Even I'm getting tired of my own posts about the legacy memberships, just haven't been able to get a satisfactory answer. No worries

I went online to see if you could add the dining when this question came up before and it wouldn't let me BUT I have no idea if that was because it wasn't working properly, or because it knew that I already have dining on my membership so therefore it would be redundant, or what. I mean it's a moot point for us because we already get 2 meals and a snack grandfathered in our membership. I think right now it's all somewhat of a crapshoot depending on what day it is and who you are dealing with.

Well if Jeffrey said so then that should be the definitive statement! I also 100% believe that the right hand and the left hand have no idea each other exist right now and that a different customer service rep would have very likely given me a different answer.

Yeah........I suspect you are right because that all makes a lot of sense. Hence my skepticism from the start.

So............per my previous posts I've been a dog with a bone over trying to find someone who can give me an answer about the future of the meal plan that is currently on the DE VIP memberships. Well I was finally able to speak to an actual customer service person at the corporate office today and got an answer. Maybe. According to her the current meal plans on memberships will still be available in 2026 at all legacy SF parks but not legacy CF parks. However, I'm somewhat skeptical because 1) She did not immediately know that answer and had to go "find out" 2) That is the same as this year if you did the all park passport add on and 3) She seemed really unsure about the whole thing. In the end I think the only way to know is to try it out next year and see if and where it works

Yes, IF you get one of the new passes. But you cannot add it on to a membership. And even if you could that would be dumb because it would cost way more than getting a prestige pass and doing the add-on

So............per my previous posts I've been a dog with a bone over trying to find someone who can give me an answer about the future of the meal plan that is currently on the DE VIP memberships. Well I was finally able to speak to an actual customer service person at the corporate office today and got an answer. Maybe. According to her the current meal plans on memberships will still be available in 2026 at all legacy SF parks but not legacy CF parks. However, I'm somewhat skeptical because 1) She did not immediately know that answer and had to go "find out" 2) That is the same as this year if you did the all park passport add on and 3) She seemed really unsure about the whole thing. In the end I think the only way to know is to try it out next year and see if and where it works