Jackdude101

^^^I figured if I did not specify a specific minimum speed for the rides in the poll and included all hypercoaster-style rides regardless of speed, the Intamin Mega-Lites would get like 90% of the votes.

^^^According to the quote-unquote "official" definition of what a hypercoaster is from Intamin, it can either be 200 feet tall or more OR have a drop of 200 feet or more. Apollo's Chariot has a drop of more than 200 feet, so it qualifies as a hypercoaster. I would also like to take this moment to put in my two cents on this "accepted" definition of a hypercoaster. I feel that it is much more accurate to label a roller coaster as a hypercoaster based on SPEED rather than height, since a roller coaster's height can be very misleading especially if it's on uneven terrain, and a nice round number like 100 kph or more (62.14 mph) seems appropriate. With this rule, all of the roller coasters already labeled as hypercoasters would still be labeled hypercoasters along with the seven rides in this topic's poll and every gigacoaster.

Because I have no shame.

Vote in this poll! You know you want to.

Rate the accuracy of this top 10 list. The #1 roughest is the Coney Island Cyclone.

^^^Rcdb.com claims that Zippin Pippin at Bay Beach is a brand-new ride based on its opening date and not being marked as relocated from Libertyland, its original home. The Gravity Group made it using the original plans for Zippin Pippin (hence the credit to John A. Miller as the designer) and parts and trains from some other defunct roller coaster. Because most of the wood from the original ride was not salvageable and because of the parts used from that other roller coaster, it has passed the point of being a simple relocation and can be considered a brand-new, Frankenstein-like, roller coaster.

The official launch page for Nitro can be found here: http://park.adlabsimagica.com/nitro-launch. I especially love the unintentionally comical audio. My favorite phrase from it is, "...just you and your deepest, darkest fears on a one-way trip...to HELL!" (dun dun dun). Here are Nitro's official stats from rcdb.com and the Adlabs Imagica website (both places have incomplete data, but are complete when they are combined): Opened: 9 October 2013 Height: 132 feet Length: 2,800 feet Speed: 65.2 mph Inversions: 5 Ride time: 150 seconds Cars per train: 6 For those wondering why Nitro only has 6-car trains, it's because Nitro is a "smaller" floorless model (for B&M) like Daemonen at Tivoli Gardens, which also has 6-car trains.

When an older roller coaster is moved to a new park, does some or all of its historical charm get lost once it's moved? Example: Wild One at Six Flags America. It originally opened at a different park back in 1917 (this makes it the fourth-oldest operating roller coaster on Earth), but was moved to Six Flags America in 1986. Does it still feel like a "historic" ride compared to, say, Rutschebanen at Tivoli Gardens, which has been operating in the same spot since 1914?

I just finished making two big changes to the spreadsheet. Change #1: opening date score (historical value score): Previously, the opening date I had been using for each roller coaster was the opening date in the park where it is currently located. The opening date I now use is the date it opened in its original location (the score for Wild One at SFA increased significantly due to this change as the difference between the time it opened originally and the time it opened at SFA is about 70 years). This effected every roller coaster on my spreadsheet known to have been relocated, which account for about 10% of the total number of roller coasters. I made this change to create better results in the 2nd change below. Change #2: ride comfort score (how-likely-that-you-will-not-slip-a-disk-in-your-spinal-cord-due-to-the-roughness-of-the-ride score): Previously, I gave a lower score to old tech wood roller coasters that were beyond a certain top speed and gave all of the other roller coasters the maximum score. I decided that that scoring method was not good enough, so I added a second component to the ride comfort score based on its original opening date, the idea being that roller coasters of any kind will get rougher as they age. Now, if a roller coaster is an old tech wood roller coaster, its ride comfort score is determined by how fast it goes and how old it is, while all the others are only judged by how old they are (the roller coaster with the lowest ride comfort score turned out to be the Coney Island Cyclone). Attached is a revised snapshot of the spreadsheet of the top 50 wood roller coasters with only old tech ones shown. To clarify, an "old tech" wood roller coaster is one that does not use Intamin prefab track, Rocky Mountain Construction Topper Track, GCI Millennium Flyer trains, Gravity Group Timberliner trains, or has an unconventional configuration like a boblsled (Flying Turns) or a virginia reel (Tyrolean Tubtwist).

How does Fuji-Q Highland compare to other big domestic parks in Japan such as Nagashima Spa Land?

From what I have heard about this model, every park should have at least one.

^^^Nevermind, I believe I found the answer here: http://www.ultimaterollercoaster.com/forums/roller-coasters-theme-parks/102658 It casually mentions that Sand Blaster (Super Italian Bobs at the time) opened for the first time at a park in Chicago named Adventureland Park in 1969. That means that this roller coaster is about 44 years old, and do you know what that means? It means that Sand Blaster is officially THE OLDEST OPERATING ROLLER COASTER IN FLORIDA (in a fixed location)! The next oldest is Space Mountain at Magic Kingdom, which soft opened on 15 December 1974.

Does anyone happen to know the "true" age of Sand Blaster? The Roller Coaster Database estimates that it first operated in the first park in which it was located in 1971 or 1972, but I haven't found anything more specific than that.

Nothing says "we don't care" quite like a roller coaster that's simply named "roller coaster."

Hmmm? In which park is that located?

^^^DANG! Hope those upstop wheels are securely bolted!

Are there only certain types of hills on roller coasters that generate airtime or do they all create airtime goodness? Can you tell if they will generate airtime just by looking at them in a photo?

I'm going to say Seven Dwarf's Mine Train at Magic Kingdom only because it's the probably the only one of these that I will get to ride in the year it first opens.

^^^Just for kicks, I removed the ride comfort scores from the spreadsheet to test the results and in this scenario they match your rankings 100%. Interesting.

^^^Thank you for making the first reply not made by me with independent ranking thingies attached. I'll post what my spreadsheet says about Darien Lake's roller coasters: It appears to be mostly the same, except for the way Predator is placed. I deduct points automatically from wood roller coasters using traditional tech after they reach a certain speed, the logic being that faster old-style roller coasters equals a rougher ride. You could say I'm "racist" against old-style wood roller coasters because I don't like a rough ride. Old-style wood roller coasters are not entirely up a creek, though, because I add lots of points (again, through automated formulas) for roller coasters that are a certain number of years old or more and the points increase the further away that they get from the average age (currently 23 November 1999). So really, the only wood roller coasters that drop down the rankings are larger ones that are new(ish) construction and still use obsolete tech, such as Predator at Darien Lake. BTW, I'm assuming you are basing your rankings by your personal experience, but let me know if there is any sort of numerical things or formulas that you used.

Mmmmmm...pizza. This topic is starting to make me hungary.

I believe it was Kumba and it may have been in 1993, the year that it opened.

Yes, you are correct. I just think it's odd to blame the local area's politics on poor park attendance. I mean, people aren't going to simply stop going to parks here in the US just because of the current government shutdown or what ends up happening with Obamacare.

Mine: A steel-track roller coaster with no inversions, no launches, no vertical lift hills, and a minimum top speed of 100 kph (62.14 mph). The following list contains all of the operating roller coasters in the world that qualify under this definition: Steel Dragon 2000 - Nagashima Spa Land Millennium Force - Cedar Point Leviathan - Canada's Wonderland Intimidator 305 - Kings Dominion Fujiyama - Fuji-Q Highland Shambhala: Expedición al Himalaya - PortAventura Titan - Six Flags Over Texas Diamondback - Kings Island Intimidator - Carowinds Behemoth - Canada's Wonderland Desperado - Buffalo Bill's Resort & Casino Silver Star - Europa-Park Nitro - Six Flags Great Adventure Superman: el Último Escape - Six Flags Mexico Big One - Pleasure Beach, Blackpool Goliath - Six Flags Magic Mountain Magnum XL-200 - Cedar Point Wild Thing - Valleyfair Mamba - Worlds of Fun & Oceans of Fun Steel Force - Dorney Park & Wildwater Kingdom Bizarro - Six Flags New England Thunder Dolphin - Tokyo Dome City Ride of Steel - Darien Lake Superman: Ride of Steel - Six Flags America Raging Bull - Six Flags Great America Bandit - Yomiuriland Goliath - Six Flags Over Georgia Skyrush - Hersheypark Titan V - Space World Apollo's Chariot - Busch Gardens Williamsburg New Texas Giant - Six Flags Over Texas Phantom's Revenge - Kennywood Goliath - La Ronde Expedition GeForce - Holiday Park Goliath - Walibi Holland Steel Eel - SeaWorld San Antonio

Better track.