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Among my favorite types of flat rides. Solid addition for any park that doesn't have one.

It sure is. Hopefully the other one is a different/contrasting color like Orange or Yellow.

In addition, starting the brake run up high when the train is moving more slowly causes less stress to be put onto the train. The point of the brake run that puts the most stress on a train the start, since the front of the train is being slowed while the rest of the train is still barrelling ahead. Any additional stress on the vehicle can increase maintenance costs, due to more frequent repairs, or just more frequent inspections being required. As for the ride itself, I don't love the layout and would change a few things if I was to design it, but I'm sure it will be a heck of a ride regardless. I will have to make a trip out to KI next year once it opens.

I always knew Hurler had the potential to be a killer layout if the roughness was smoothed out by someone like RMC. Happy to be vindicated. Steel Vengeance looks insane too, but be happy a garbage ride is being replaced by a great ride at both parks, everyone.

It's hard to hear this and not be skeptical without hearing the hook or tie-in that will be associated with the park. Disney works in part because the movies advertise the park, and the park advertises the movies. It's a symbiotic relationship which drives both to greater success than they might have on their own. A tie-in for a park of this ambition can't be something transient or fleeting, or limited in scope. It has to be family-friendly, but also relatable to adults - either through nostalgia or directly. The only property I can think of that hits all those marks while not already being tied to a chain of parks is the Nintendo catalog. So yeah, if this place is going to be Super Mario World, it's got a chance. If not, I'd need to hear a pretty spectacularly convincing argument about the appeal of the other theme(s) being used.

It's a different kind of intensity. I305's first corner certainly trumps Maverick (and almost anything i've ridden) with regard to the intensity of sustained positive G forces. Maverick, on the other hand, beats me up a whole heck of a lot more and has the more severe transitional forces which are no doubt amplified by getting slammed into the restraints. Even still, the first months of I305's operation with the Maverick-style restraints gave me much less of a pounding than Maverick does.

All four U.S Giga's are in a days drive form me. psssssst... Canada isn't in America. We only have 3 gigas. Edit: ^Beat me to it. lol Canada is most definitely in America. It's just not in the US.

The drop on the second hill isn't any steeper than before. The crest and downslope are 100% unchanged from last year. The first turn isn't any tighter, either. I believe it's the same radius as before, actually. People were still getting blackout forces on the trimmed version last summer, so I wouldn't have expected this to change that. Edit - Did a quick google image search and found a shot from last year. here it is next to the shot posted on the last page.

Made a stop by the park on my way home from Norfolk and took a few laps on the new and improved I-305. As everyone else has said, it's bask to its former ass-kicking glory. (and then some, as the new restraints are much better than the ride opened with last year) The airtime going over the first hill is back in all seats of the train. The airtime going over hill 2 is back, and as others have reported, it seems like there are fewer trims on the third hill now as well. They felt less jarring and I took a front row ride to get a good look at them, and I'm pretty sure there was 1-2 more rows of them last April. Could be my mind playing tricks on me, but I think with the amount of others who have said the same thing, there has to be something to it. They might add more back as the weather heats up. It was about 20 degrees warmer opening weekend last year. Airtime is most forceful on hills 2 and 3 in the front, but it's best over the first drop further back. I think the first drop might actually be best from right in the middle of the train. I rode rows 1, 9 and 16.

That's a bit of a bummer. I rode it at the end of last year and it was giving good rides. I was hoping to get a ride on it opening weekend.

You might lose about .1 second of air at the beginning of the hill due to the new angle of entry, but it's still screaming over the top of it. You'll be soaring just like the beginning of last year, provided the trims stay off. edit - In fact, on a second viewing, the only part that is changed is the part where the train is turning upwards, which produces positive Gs. All the area giving the negative Gs is completely unchanged.

Well, I don't think "the turn is too wide" would be much of a worthwhile complaint, but seeing the things people do complain about, I wouldn't say it's impossible that SOMEONE on the entirety of the internet would have such a complaint. So let's play, "predict the complaints." Realistically, I can see several areas where we might see complaints, but they depends on exactly how this reprofile enlarges the turn. If they go with the quick and dirty method of simply adding straight track to extend the entry and exit points of the turn enough to fit the increased radius, someone will inevitably complain that these straight sections are "boring." If they go with a better (and more fitting with the rest of the ride) method of a slight (10-degrees?) left turn at the bottom of the drop into a rollover to the right, followed by a wider 290 degree right turn, ending in another roll left and another 10-degree left turn exiting and pulling up into the 150-foot hill, people might complain that the transitions are too violent (hopefully they won't be, but you never know.) Side Note - If done right, these transitions could also be spots where they could engineer in little extra hops of airtime, which would make a great ride even better. Even if the reprofile is perfect and the trims are removed from the first drop completely, the ride will likely still need to be trimmed somewhere. On opening day last year, it was trimmed on the up-slope of the "third" hill. I don't think enlarging the turn will scrub off enough speed to completely remove a need for slowing the ride down prior to the rather violent transition right near the end of the ride, which was the most aggressive spot in the ride in all configurations. No matter where these trims are placed, somebody will complain about them. Also, enlarging the turn will inevitably cause the ride to be somewhat (probably very slightly) slower going over the second hill than it was opening day next year. Someone will undoubtedly complain (probably unreasonably) that this "kills" the airtime there. Hell, there were people who complained that this ride had no airtime on opening day last year, despite the sustained 3 seconds of ejector air the ride had going over that hill on opening day. Did I miss any?

Do you think it should be lower?

First time seeing this thread. Wow, what a crazy story. Even more amazing to hear that there might even be a happy ending to it all. The thread almost reads like a cheesy 80s movie screenplay starring John Cusack as BeemerBoy.

It's caused by g-forces pulling blood from your brain. Ways to decrease it are to flex/clench muscles in your extremities, particularly your lower body. This will constrict the blood vessels going there, making it harder for blood to rush away from your head. Also, getting a good night's sleep the night before, and eating a good breakfast also help.

Great timing on this shot. Three trains in one pic.

Which is too bad, since it was actually a pretty fun coaster when it first opened. It's unfortunate that with a lot of woodies, the elements that make them fun to begin with end up causing them to run rough later in life. Hurler's layout would be a ton of fun as a steel coaster - but as a woodie it's not popular enough to justify the maintenance costs to keep it running smoothly.

To be fair, Andrew Jackson was a bit of a jerk.

Well, I tried to explain our differences of opinion without resorting to "bitching and moaning," but apparently I failed on that matter in your eyes. I agree that it's "fine" now, but fine is (a bit of) a bitter pill when I thought it was perfect before. It's not enough to make me ask for a refund on my season pass or boo someone at an event, but as I said, it causes a tiny bit of disappointment each time I ride it. Ultimately it's not that big of a deal, and I've tried to avoid discussion on the topic since expressing my initial disappointment after the trims were first added since I understand it can get tiring for some. With that, I'll go back to lurking.

As someone who has been among the "complainers," (though I wasn't at the event and certainly wouldn't have booed had I been there) I think a lot of it comes down to a difference in how we perceived the ride in its original state. I seem to recall in your comments after initially riding it on media day that you rated it as a top-5/top-10 coaster at that point, and apparently with the changes it still falls into the same area for you; so for you, it's not much different. For me, I personally rated it at the very top of my list in its initial state. Not only that, but the reason it was at #1 for me was the First Drop/Turnaround/Second Hill section of the ride, which I consider to be the best 10-15 seconds of ride I've ever experienced. Unfortunately, it's that section (not so much the turnaround, which is more-or-less the same now) that is affected the most by the addition of the trims. So while I still consider it to be an excellent coaster, and it still manages to be among my favorites, it's no longer my absolute favorite, and my favorite section of the ride has been severely impacted by the changes. The improvements later in the ride (both from the re-location of the trims and the new, better restraints) aren't enough to offset the damage done to that first section and keep it at the top of my list. I'm still hopeful that they'll be able to come up with a solution that allows the restoral of the opening section of the ride, but I also realize that the reality of physics may not make that possible. I'd still take the current I305 over what most (probably every) other park in the world got this year, so don't take my criticism to mean that I wish they'd sell the ride for scrap, but it's still a little depressing to ride it knowing what it once was.

Gemini - Cedar Point. It's far from the most-celebrated coaster at the park, but I like it more every time I visit, which is something I certainly can't say for many rides out there. Talon - Dorney Park. I always hear about Hydra and (the excellent) Steel Force when people talk about Dorney, but Talon rarely seems to be brought up. I think this ride holds its own with any of the B&M inverts I've ridden.

It's scheduled to open on April 17, according to the park's website. Hurler is down til May.

There's nothing even resembling a slow point in the ride. It's absolutely relentless from beginning to end.

It's funny how many people objected to those notes when the ride was revealed, assuming that there would be no airtime in those spots - But the designers were right, you get flat-out launched in every one of those spots.