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It looks like this means no GCI in store for next year.

Just talked to Ben Blochl from iP2 who will be heading the project. When I asked for further details about rides, he just responded "immersive, high tech, interactive activities". What it looks like is that there will not be rides. Ip2 made parks like these in the other parts of the world without rides but with 4D cinema. I asked him for further information about the water park. He said that he is not working on that and will forward me on. I talked to a rep from ProSlides today. He told me that MOEMN had asked for a quote for some of their larger raft water slides but have not bought or met with the company yet. For this park to have something unique to MN, it would have to be either a mat racer, funnel, or tornado slide.

Six Flags Over Texas has a tunnel under their parking entrance that leads to their old wooden roller coaster. I would have to say that not many people would want to take the walk across. Why have a new roller coaster it it wouldn't be ridden? I think that the parking lot and dinosaurs would be a better area. Also? the front entrance could use a little upgrade

MA does 1.7% of Cedar Fair's total equity. Wild water Kingdom does .9%, and Cedar Fair gets a fixed amount of money for Gilroy Gardens and just gets bonuses. Is the smaller screaming swing built by S&S?

I can tell you that Valleyfair and Worlds of Fun have many more attendees than Michigans Adventure. MA also only does about 1.7%, and the other small parks do at least double that. A used coaster would be the best fit.

The screaming swing that was rumored to be headed to Michigan's Adventure would have been an Upcharge attraction for $1 or $2. It could be impactful, though, as it would give MA a new attraction. You would have to see how Upcharge attractions do at MA. Does ripcord do well? Mini Golf? Go Karts? The screaming swing is a good ride, and it is disappointing to see Michigans Adventure not getting it. With the low attendance MA receives, Cedar Fair probably thought it would be more profitable to sell it to a carnival or scrap metal.

In my opinion, wolverine wildcat would just be sold for scrap. It's not big enough for another park and its old.

We have a steel venom coaster, but when we get our next coaster it is EXTREMELY LIKELY to be a Invert. I know, it seems weird. but the park needs it.

Thanks for the laugh! I've watched some other videos and the majority of his information is either incorrect or made up! I also like how he said that Behemoth and Leviathan are the worst hyper and giga coasters in this video. He also states Canada's Wonderland as being the 5th best park in the Cedar Fair chain in the same video. I greatly disagree with that statement! It's probably in the top three in my opinion! He obviously knows very little about the industry and how amusement parks make their decisions as to what they're going to do next! I wish people wouldn't make these videos if they have no idea what they're talking about but, then who would there be to criticize online? I think this kid should have stayed with his video game prediction videos! Haha! Yes! He's better doing "Mind Crap" videos (minecraft, as my dad tells it to my younger brother)

You guys should really watch this. it's some coaster boy with speech problems spreading a rumor he heard that Mi would close. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nikbw_ZW8Q

Merry Christmas! If Valleyfair were to get a Christmas gift of 12 million or less at this instant, what would you give? I would want a premier rides launch circuit coaster like Tempesto or Superman at SF Discover Kingdom.

From a mechanical and $ POV, Suspended Family Coasters are WAY too much money for what they realistically are. It seems that if Valleyfair made the poor desicion to get a family coaster, some sort of indoor mine train like contraption would be nice.

If Valleyfair didn't get a coaster, what do you think would work the best?

I think that CW is getting a launched wing, and that either Kings Dominion or Valleyfair will get an invert. Yes, it's unrealistic, but dreaming is fun. Cedar Fair really looks dependent on putting the new Skyhawk thrill rides at every park. The contract states: deals should be made in the future for single year purchases over 3.

I would consider dark rides to be "considerable" additions, and I could see them popping up at the smaller parks when the larger ones are getting coasters. I think at these regional amusement parks, the interactive dark ride is one of very few rides that can be more impactful (on marketing, sales, and customer happiness) than a major roller coaster. Dorney Park is definitely getting either a thrill ride, water park addition, dark ride, or GCI. I just also doubt that Cedar Fair would purchase a singular GCI coaster when a) the older ones are getting RMCed, b) they couldn't get a deal because they would only buy 1, and c) in the competitive PA theme park market, one could say that a GCI coaster wouldn't make any difference, as the racing GCI at Hersheypark is much more impressive. My Prediction: Dorney gets a Delirium thrill ride made by Mondial. Sadly and truthly, Dorney Park is in the bottom-2 theme parks for Cedar Fair. It is a bad park in a heavy market, and MI adventure, is just in the middle of nowhere. Cedar Fair values sales much more than what would make a park better, and trust me: my home parks could use some additions too.

I personally can't see Canada's Wonderland getting another coaster after Leviathan and its heavy strong additions in the past couple of years. Kings Dominion is on the border line of cedar fair parks that either get good or bad additions. I think that the non-Paramount parks will be treated well in this offseason. KD is not in as an appealing market as people think.

I think that the Great Escape will not receive another steel coaster until 2021 - probably a Gerstlauter Eurofighter. I think that restoring Comet to make it rideable is much, much more important.

I think that Cedar Fair will have a bigger year in 2017 for additions. I'm guessing 2 dark rides, and a action theater replacement (either the Mass effect simulator, or plants v zombies shooter: whichever is better). I think that Cedar Fair will give Dorney Park a GCI coaster about the size of the one at FunSpot Orlando. I think Valleyfair will be getting their first B&M coaster: either an invert or wing, but maybe a dive if people really like ValRavn - this would almost never happen tho.

I wouldn't try to go to Valleyfair to ride Renegade because an enthusiast told me the sidewalk has a rattle. Valleyfair's renegade is holding up really well. Don't know what you've heard,

Between Enterprise and Antique Autos in some grassland.

I believe it is one big block of jobs, but you have to be 18 to work High Roller. If they don't have enough ride attendants then they get state permission to let 16 year olds do Planet Snoopy rides - basically all of which have the same extremely easy dispatch system.

I couldn't imagine working any of those. Bumper Cars is such a slow load. Riptide always breaks. Super cats so old.

If I was to apply as 14, would I want to work in Admissions or Games? At 16, I would switch to drum set in live entertainment. At 18, I would move to ride operator. If I liked games, though, I might stay in that. What's the pay for lifeguards at 16?

I totally forgot about the hotel addition at Carowinds. They will be getting that. I think they will have an off year, though.

Cedar Fair gives impacting non-coaster additions, like VF has been getting (shocker!) Cedar Fair is building VF up, and will eventually break the bank on Valleyfair. In the next couple of years, Valleyfair fans should truthfully be hopeful. CF has been fixing up the Paramount parks to meet their standard, and they WILL give their original standard parks (Dorney, Worlds of Fun, VF) a nice addition. To me, I think that Valleyfair and Dorney Park will be getting coasters this offseason. There is no possible Paramount park to give a coaster to, and these parks need coasters. Valleyfair should also be getting a Triotech dark ride, as Oumiet said. Valleyfair is in a very compelling market - Minneapolis. These other parks like Carowinds are also in nice markets. While Valleyfair does have limitations on height and space, it will be able to insert a B&M. Cedar Fair knows that adding another coaster at a park like Canada's Wonderland will probably not improve an already high attendance mark. Along with the fact that Valleyfair is due for an addition in the thrills department. Valleyfair fans should be hopeful, but know for now, they just have to R E L A X. Finally, people have been talking about the effect Nickelodeon Universe has on Valleyfair. I think that these two are completely different markets. NU gets many more of the tourists and possibly people that have small children and occasionally buy a point pass in the winter. Valleyfair, unlike NU, is an all day park with water park in the hot outside weather that is much more like a theme park. Also, non-theme park people think that something like Wild Thing is an extremely good and tall coaster! People like Valleyfair. CF would be able to draw in even more locals if a coaster was added. They know this, and it shows when they named it, CGA, and Carowinds "growth parks". - Dave Frazier has told me that Valleyfair has received 1 of 3 additions as a growth park, with the first being the water park expansion. He didn't say what the next two would be, but 1 could guess that it is a 3-step process: water park, coaster, and indoor attraction - like Mass Effect or Plants v. Zombies at the other 2 growth parks. Carowinds ends its growth this year and will get a couple of off years before anything else of size.