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How is it a scam? It was just being used by so many people that it took a while... There's typically only one empty seat on a train if being grouped properly. That makes the capacity of the SRL about 25 people/hr or less.

Most coasters its used as a continue button or to tell the ride you "acknowledge" what it is displaying. So if you are doing a lamp test it will keep flashing the lights until you press acknowledge to say that all of the lights work. If an error appears you can press acknowledge to tell the computer you have seen the error.

I don't disagree that long term their current business model is not sustainable and that Cedar Fair is a far better company. But to say that they aren't doing well when they are pumping out quarter after quarter of record results is just being biased or ignorant to the facts. Q1 has always been a net EBITA loss for Six Flags but this quarter was the first in the company's history with a positive net EBITA.

Based on that theory, then a state of the art 4D Dark Ride would be a perfect addition to the park. Get ready for battle Southern Californians! Six Flags is too dumb to realize that. It is why their numbers are down while CF is up, even with more parks. Yeah. It's only their sixth consecutive record year and they just had the best first quarter in the company's history. Attendance was up 37% this past quarter following the trend of increasing attendance every quarter for recent history. They're basically on the brink of bankruptcy with how low their numbers are.

Last time I checked Universal and Disney dark rides have blasters for gaming or ride vehicles similar to Justice League, not both. Toy Story mania was built in 2008 for nearly $80 million. It has 56 game screens and a duration of 5-6 minutes. JLBFM uses technology that already exists on other rides, built in 2015 for around $10 million with a track length of 524 ft. It's really not that innovative compared to rides currently available at Universal or Disney parks. SF just doesn't invest the money it could to ensure that its rides perform to an acceptable standard. This "electric lift motor" you keep going on about is so unreliable only because SF does a lot of their engineering in house with only a few guys, so they don't have the ability to invest the time they should into one project to ensure it's running reliably. If they had hired a third party to come in and do it for a little more money it wouldn't have taken three years to get a boomerang running the way it should.

Universal? Disney? It may be a "prototype" for the manufacturer, but there are more complex dark rides that exist that run more reliably than this one.

Funny that you're defending the fact that it takes SF three seasons to get a boomerang running properly. JL is not a prototype. There are far more complex dark rides already out there that do not have these issues.

That particular row of seats is designed to accommodate passengers with different body types. It is not as simple as lengthening all seatbelts. Fixed. Weight and body size are two different things. A busty female weighing 140lbs may not fit into a regular seat comfortably thus needing a larger seat whereas a 200lb male might fit fine in a regular seat. No, those particular seats are designed to accommodate heavier people. As in their is more reinforcement in the construction of the row to accommodate more weight. Each seat is built to hold a lot more weight than will ever be in the seat.. The construction of the larger seats is simply that.. To fit lager people.. If a 500 pound person could magically fit into row 2 that seat will hold them just as well as row 4. I'm a climbing instructor and by law our ziplines and what not are required to be able to hold thousands of pounds even though we would never have anyone over 250 - 300 pounds on them. Each seat on wild eagle is the same.. It doesn't need "beefed up" construction to hold the extra weight at all Why wild eagle only put them on one row, I have no idea.. But it has nothing to do with those seats being "stronger"..I'm sure it has to do more with something like keeping the trains lighter or maybe even a cost issue as bigger seats cost more. If the seats are exactly the same then why would those seats cost more? They differ in design slightly to allow larger people. There are additional changes beyond the red seatbelt.

Seriously!! I feel like there are always new scandals anytime a park does anything out of the ordinary.

Upstop wheels are probably a non issue, since they are not the wheels that the train spends 95% of the ride on., Right. So in summary, like I said a little bit ago, Dollywood is not concerned about flat spots and isn't taking a train off to prevent flat spots.

Doesn't LR use poly wheels? Could be they don't want the trains sitting on the wheels since you cant leave poly wheels sitting still or they develop flat spots. But if that was the case they'd just move them to storage like B&M does so the trains don't rest on the wheels. Just a guess though, obviously anything we say is just speculation. The trains are going to be sitting on their wheels every night for the next however many decades. They are not worried about "flat spots." Actually Poly wheels do develop flat spots when sitting stationary for extended periods of time. Sort of like a car that sits in the garage for extended periods of time and not on jack stands, the tires lose their round edges and makes for an unpleasant ride. No one wants a rough ride. The harder wheel compounds don't react in this way so rides like Mindbender can sit on the rails for decades with no worries. But rides like Goliath at SFGAm, or any B&M, use a softer compound to give you a comfortable ride and will develop flat spots. For this reason the manufacturer has set a time range that a train can sit stationary before it should be cycled or transferred off. I am saying that Dollywood is not taking the trains off because they are concerned about flat spots. The trains have to be sitting for much longer than a week to develop flat spots. You mention Goliath at SFGAm but at that park during the fall and spring they are closed during the week during which the trains sit on the transfer not moving for the days they are closed. Dollywood has bigger things to be thinking about than worrying if the trains are getting "flat spots". Many coasters that have these wheels have a transfer track where there is track and the wheels rest on the track. But RMC also use a system similar to B&M where the train isn't resting on it's main running wheels on the storage tracks Look at the bottom wheels, bud. "Flat spots" could develop on those.

That particular row of seats is designed to accommodate passengers with different body types. It is not as simple as lengthening all seatbelts. Fixed. Weight and body size are two different things. A busty female weighing 140lbs may not fit into a regular seat comfortably thus needing a larger seat whereas a 200lb male might fit fine in a regular seat. No, those particular seats are designed to accommodate heavier people. As in their is more reinforcement in the construction of the row to accommodate more weight.

I'm assuming this is one of the reasons why transfer garages on B&Ms don't have any rails but rather a line of wheels that runs down the center. It's also so replacing wheels and performing maintenance on the train is easier than if there was a track in the way. Many B&M trains actually never leave their transfer tracks, even during the offseason, because they have that type of transfer track.

Doesn't LR use poly wheels? Could be they don't want the trains sitting on the wheels since you cant leave poly wheels sitting still or they develop flat spots. But if that was the case they'd just move them to storage like B&M does so the trains don't rest on the wheels. Just a guess though, obviously anything we say is just speculation. The trains are going to be sitting on their wheels every night for the next however many decades. They are not worried about "flat spots." Actually Poly wheels do develop flat spots when sitting stationary for extended periods of time. Sort of like a car that sits in the garage for extended periods of time and not on jack stands, the tires lose their round edges and makes for an unpleasant ride. No one wants a rough ride. The harder wheel compounds don't react in this way so rides like Mindbender can sit on the rails for decades with no worries. But rides like Goliath at SFGAm, or any B&M, use a softer compound to give you a comfortable ride and will develop flat spots. For this reason the manufacturer has set a time range that a train can sit stationary before it should be cycled or transferred off. I am saying that Dollywood is not taking the trains off because they are concerned about flat spots. The trains have to be sitting for much longer than a week to develop flat spots. You mention Goliath at SFGAm but at that park during the fall and spring they are closed during the week during which the trains sit on the transfer not moving for the days they are closed. Dollywood has bigger things to be thinking about than worrying if the trains are getting "flat spots". Many coasters that have these wheels have a transfer track where there is track and the wheels rest on the track.

Doesn't LR use poly wheels? Could be they don't want the trains sitting on the wheels since you cant leave poly wheels sitting still or they develop flat spots. But if that was the case they'd just move them to storage like B&M does so the trains don't rest on the wheels. Just a guess though, obviously anything we say is just speculation. The trains are going to be sitting on their wheels every night for the next however many decades. They are not worried about "flat spots."

That particular row of seats is designed to accommodate heavier passengers. It is not as simple as lengthening all seatbelts.

It shouldn't matter if the trains travel different speeds though. The computer is concerned about times or speeds within a certain range depending if the train is over or under speed. But the timing between the two trains differing shouldn't be a factor. If that was true than anytime you sent an empty train after a full one the ride would error. Coasters run trains with different wheels, therefore different speeds all the time. I don't see why this one would be any different. Timing is everything. PLCs monitors how long a train is in a zone otherwise a "timeout" occurs. "Timeouts" and "overspeeds" can be an issue. Like I said, I know that over and underspeeds can be an issue. However, I've never heard of a ride that errors because two trains are traveling at differing speeds, unless one of them was too fast or too slow.

That's something I can definitely believe. I doubt that the brand new trains would be able to utilize the decade old hardware that currently exists in the station for the current trains. Not to mention it wouldn't make sense from an operations standpoint to have to train for two different trains with different checking procedures for each train on one ride.

It shouldn't matter if the trains travel different speeds though. The computer is concerned about times or speeds within a certain range depending if the train is over or under speed. But the timing between the two trains differing shouldn't be a factor. If that was true than anytime you sent an empty train after a full one the ride would error. Coasters run trains with different wheels, therefore different speeds all the time. I don't see why this one would be any different.

Technically they could, but if the trains ran any differently, mainly in speed, it would throw off the computer. RoS is very touchy especially when it comes to timing. Sometimes even if the weather causes the trains to be slower it automatically shuts the ride down. If thats really the case, that seems like something that could easily be adjusted. I don't know why it would be an issue for the trains to differ in speed. The only time it should be an issue is if the train is moving too quickly. Too slow shouldn't matter.

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