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I think Skyline just doesn’t have much manufacturing capacity. Certainly much lower than RMC and Gravity Group - both of which can handle much larger sections in a single offseason.

GCI only ever seems to do 200-400 feet of Titan Track at a time. That’s going to take several more years. Ipe in other locations could help though.

There's a lot of different membership combos that have to be addressed and they seem to be announcing their plans one-by-one - based on how they've been handling memberships so far this month my suspicion is you'll be able to keep the dining membership at least through the end of 2026 but it won't work at Cedar Fair parks until 2026.

Best I can tell from the financial statements Cedar Fair if IP deals are considered CapEx declining to extend the PEANUTS deal could be a chunk of the CapEx cut too.

I’m not sure what the per park attendance is I don’t think they released that in the call. But I’d still wager the bulk of the loss is indeed at Great Adventure. That was an avoidable collapse - people have very much noticed the ride closures. That’s not necessarily an issue with the merger itself because Cedar Fair was already doing this in their own parks, but instead overzealous cost cutting with the company in general. We know Wonderland numbers are up the park itself wanted to brag on it. The drop is probably heavily concentrated in the 2-5 US parks with the highest typical international visitor counts. Make of it what you will the 2 closest to DC saw a closure and the removal of Winterfest respectively - plus the NYC and LA coasters being pushed to 2027, those are three huge international tourist markets. And those rides plus the Carowinds water ride are rumored to be imported from Mack and Vekoma which now will have increased import costs. Meanwhile the only newly announced ride is in Mexico, not the US, where import costs and tourism haven’t changed. That could have easily have originally been planned as another Snoopy’s Soap Box Racers. SFOT’s dive is already largely fabricated, and is fabricated in Ohio. I wouldn’t be surprised if only that, Mexico and the Canadian parks received 2026 rides. PS: Given the current climate it’s also not surprising that IF tariffs and tourism are the reasons for the changes they’d choose to not announce that as the reason. Companies have been attacked for calling those factors out.

Well the GAdv coaster to 2027 thing already seemed to be a budget move - a reasonable 2026 opening was still possible with them pouring footers in August. The problem is they’ve left that park in a sorry state of affairs so keeping it in that state is only going to make it worse. And it’s likely responsible for a large amount of the attendance drop as it is. I’m a bit shocked they decided to abandon a 2026 open for it considering the importance of replacing TWO coasters. There’s also a non-zero chance that political issues surrounding import costs and international tourism collapse play into this too. The thing is I could still see them investing in dining upgrades. Potentially even fast tracking them. PS: I’m about 90% sure RMC uses imported steel. And with domestic steel production experiencing a factory explosion I’d expect domestic steel’s already paltry market sheet to fall even more. It’s a bad time to build coasters. PPS: I understand how taboo that topic is. But the drastically increased costs of building rides cannot be ignored.

Six Flags Mexico announced a family boomerang already. I guess there are still rides that will be announced for the chain. The success of AlpenFury in driving sales and visitor numbers may well drive how they add attractions though. Despite being a bit over 3000ft in length. Siren's Curse seems to be doing well despite being right at 3000ft long too. Good midsize rides really seem to be performing well even at their big parks.

These days I don't see how you do a new hyper under $25M. Not even a Chance hyper. Moving Superman could be half that.

This is closer to the actual scale. The grading on the site will make for interesting footer design or the need to cut or lengthen some supports but yes the 2D fit is there.

There’s definitely still a couple empty slots on the carousel.

Well hopefully the building gets attention. It’s still a basic pavilion.

Grand Ole' Carousel reopens Tomorrow July 26th. https://www.facebook.com/share/19ciRZP38V/

SFTL could use Flying Scooters would work in the Excalibur slot too. Or an Air Race. But CGA's Flying Scooters will soon be available. Please don't make them un-snappable though.

I’d probably expect equipment to be removed from Mooseburger before the end of the season if it is going somewhere. If the windows get covered that’d be another sign something is happening inside. Right now you can just see it’s inactive. IF. And yes this is a big if. They want to do something here it’s an established area of the park and it’s a lot of demo. They’d want to start that this year. Right now it’s just two things closed next to each other coincidentally in the same year.

Spinsanity has been open. It went down at some point AFTER opening so something seems to have gone bad. Tsunami Soaker was announced to be closed before the season even started. And Mooseburger has only been opening for events with food components (IE. Oktoberfest). If they move the food component of an event somewhere else OR don't have one at all then I'd be far more likely to say there's something going on. Using Mooseburger for themed food has been pretty consistent the last few seasons it would indeed be notable if they DIDN'T this season. As for what should, might or might not be afoot - I'd build a new restaurant. I know, I've already said this before. Something akin to what Cedar Fair has been doing for a while now. Removing Mooseburger, the French bathroom and Tsunami Soaker gives you a nice area to build something new (but you can build a nice one even just using the Mooseburger footprint alone).

Cats and dogs living together. Mass hysteria!

They're assembling the carousel now.

It's a bit interesting that in general Cedar Fair has been a fair bit less ambitious when it comes to dark rides. The Boo Blasters rides were all installed by Paramount, and outside of those there really aren't many dark rides at legacy Cedar Fair parks at all. Six Flags has had way more, with several parks having two or more dark rides. I do wonder what the future of dark rides is in the merged company.

I fully understand why Six Flags tried the Justice League concept. It truly was something out of character for the company. Unfortunately Six Flags preventative and ongoing maintenance budgets aren't compatible with the concept over the long haul. I'm pretty sure the license expiring thing isn't an issue though. They'll renew the DC license if it is actually expiring next year.

You do not want Iron Wolf anymore. ROS would work only as a parking lot coaster.

Already have a spinner. I could see that going to Great America, Great Escape or Georgia.

I wouldn't think it'd be terribly busy on a Tuesday at all.

From what I hear it's not worth relocating - beyond its service life.

Hyper shuttle coaster if you still want to use the word.