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Are these new Round things Speakers for a sound system on the new X Trains? I know you go there all the time and are up to speed with some of these things but I was actually really curious ...... I spotted them when i was looking at the Magic mountain web page for the X2 Construction. are these round things speakers I see on the trains between each rider

I'm guessing the reason for taking this coaster down aside from being old and lame was due to the noise it generated upon hurricane Harbor. I can't see them putting any type of ride that would essentially do the same. Also that is a bad spot for an attraction because you can't see over there unless you actually go there. They'll have to do some serious landscaping and most importantly some clearing to get people to see that area.

Just a tad off topic, well maybe a lot off topic but I've been wondering for a while now does Maverick have Anti Roll back dogs on the track? I've never seen them on the several photos that I've seen.

This sucker was pulled down really quick! Clean up the park really good, and get some good eats in there and it should be a very enjoyable season. I'm pretty sure if they are going to take down Flashback they'd have to do it before Hurrican Harbor opens for the season.

I remember when Flashback was Z Force in Georgia, it was ok when I was a kid back then. But Now as an Adult, it is quite lame so I have no hard feelings for it............ Psyclone is total garbage and way too rough, I just don't understand that huge un-comfortable jolt leading into the 4th hill around that fan turn.

"Does anybody have a guess of how crowded it will be Sunday April 2nd, the day after it opens?" Crystal Ball Says...................VERY! I'm super impressed with the Station design; Looks great with those colors. I'm also excited for all you Georgian because you have a nice coaster at your whem! Sadly I wont get to ride until May 27th, but I'm glad to relish the goodness with you. By the way, great PHOTOS!

That was a cool SFOG preview!

This thing has a ton of supports! Wow! Fuji's coaster might end up being one of the most expensive coaster in the world. So much steel is used for the coaster - it looks like ever 5 feet there is a support connector.

I hear ya, but those dummies were made specific for 150lbs and it's stamped on the back of them so you can't mistake it. I myself weigh 175 pounds but I can't recall at any moment ever seing a full train of adults riding. Most of the time I see a few adults in your weight range and then a lot of younger kids around 80 - 100 range, the 250+ range usually hope over to the exit platform or humiliate themselves by trying to lower the lapbar but fall short and have to leave the ride anyway. Anyway I took the time to find something about the average Human weight and I found it very interesting Female - 137 lbs Male - 172 lbs Average between the 2 is 154.5 lbs. This was just food for thought Info was derived from Wikipedia in the Physiology and genetics section http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humans

That's why it's labled as Average. Actually all the Coaster dummies are to simulate an average weight of a 150lb person. So if you put 2 and 2 together you can see why it's labled as such. That's not really a low number considering significantly larger and smaller guest have the potential to not fit safely for the ride. Anyway you look at it, you are going to have nearly a balanced train on most occasions with some diverse weights above and below the 150 mark. By the way, it's great to hear that the dummies did make a difference with the Speed though.

The helix and the Drop both are Notorious! When I was in New England and rode their Superman ride, I was actually scared a little. I thought it was really fun but the air time on that monster was out of control. Most of the time I like to hold my hands up and enjoy the ride, but on Superman, I was really intimidated because at any moment I thought I would fly out. (That's how it felt to me) Nitro is a similar coaster to Goliath in GA, and I just can't imagine it not remaining superior. Agreed, I am pleased that GA has a Large scale coaster too, but it's just up and down primarily with a helix in the middle. Everyone has their preference and it seems most of you like air time from a hyper, but me on the other hand, I like speed and height from them. Nitro, Goliath MM, and Millenium Force are my three favs.

Magic Mountain's version isn't classified by it's Air time or lack of. The only spot of air time is on the Third hill, and it's a nice long section of floater air at least 3 or 4 seconds, but that's it.

It depends on what you consider better. SoCal's version is totally different from the Ga counterpart; they both have something different and unique to offer. Goliath CA.- Designed by Giovinola, super smooth, has incredible speed, height, and an insane Twister portion that delivers a not so common dose of positive G's that NO other hyper has besides Titan. Goliath GA.- Designed by B&M, no doubt will be smooth as well, has an out an back design that is brilliantly placed and very scenic, has loads of camel back humps (bunny hops) with the potential to deliver great air time. Fun? Maybe, but I wouldn't really say exceptionally better because out and backs can be really boring to me when they are repetitive. And just for the record, I've been all around the globe already, so yes I've been outside of Southern California.

Do you guys really think that this is going to do the much talked about full-full? I have always been skeptical about it; my opinion is that it's just going to rotate the track 360 degrees keeping the seats straight forward - kinda like a typical zero G roll. My coaster geekness started showing it's self when I was at magic Mountain Saturday, I was examining everything about X while I was riding it (especially the seat driver that moves up and down. I was also examining the forces at differt points of the ride that I never really payed attention to before. If Fuji's Coaster seat's perform the Full rotation along with the track, no doubt it will be a truly exciting element to say the least, but may end up being a Mega head and Body Banger? I thought this because that particular element is not that high in the air so it might perform the manuvere really fast All things said are judging from the pics

I guess you could say it's cresting the hills just fine, but regardless, significant air time seems to be none-existant. I hope the extra weight make a difference. I'll be in Atlanta on May 28, so I should be able to take a ride or two and have a first hand experience and see how it really feels to me. Never the less this look like it might be the best coaster at the park by far. Goliath to me is a taller, faster, steel version of Scream Machine; I just hope it have at least half of the air time you get on that great woodie. Goliath at Magic Mountain has 2 different speeds logged that all operaters of the coaster should know. Empty - 83.7 mph Average Load (4500Lb) - 85.3 mph NO, I didn't pull these numbers out of my butt, they are located in the station's ride manual. I remember this because I used to be a prior operator of this coaster. So maybe GA's version will have an increase in speed but I can't imagine that it would be that much more since Magic Mountain's version increases by less than 2 mph.

I'm not trying to sound like a hater or anything but Raging Bull has a much more interesting layout than this one. I live in Southern California - San Diego to be exact, so no I'm not a fanboy of it either, but even when raging bull and Apollo's chariot runs empty, it takes the hills with a decent amount of speed especially Apollo's. I just hope the no Brake run and expected air time hype actually comes through because those video's did not look too thrilling to me. I know the video can't do total justice, but wow, those hills were kinda slow and on par with the other B&M hypers, sadly just not better. But regardless of what I have said, I still love that downward helix.

I do agree it's hard to judge a picture, especially in my case since I have not been to this park to see it with my own eyes. I was just using a general comparison to the X and Goliath, both of which I see quite frequently. It would be great to see what this ride actually will do and thanks for the photos.

I know someone is going to jump on me for this comment, but in looking at the photo's of the drop, it does not appear to be well over 200 ft. The reason I say this is because Goliath at Magic mountain has a 255ft drop and looks a lot bigger than this new 4D. I know that I'm comparing two different rides from photos but if you look at the coaster behind the people in one of the above pics, it doesn't look much higher than 200ft. Ok let me have it! LOL....... Mike