thrillrider

In the same argument, you have to look at tax money that will be lost, the local jobs that will be lost, local businesses that will be impacted,the out of state visitors the park brings in....and on and on. So the 2-3 million that it is costing them to run the park, is nothing compared to what they could lose. I could totaly see if it was costing them more than this to keep the park going, but this is a small amout compared to if the park did not exsist for the reasons I gave. I am not sure how they are losing money on the park, because all reports from the park that I have seen, the place is packed. Say they did close the park. They will still have to maintain the property, and that would not be much less than what they are paying now. With the market being what it is today, I think they would have a hard time selling anything right now.

How do you think the workers on dragster feel when they have to listen to the same song blasting in there ear all day?

I was looking for those at cedarpoint the last time I was there. They used to have a ton of different pins from all the cedarfair parks. The only ones they have at cedarpoint now, are just a few pins that say "cedarpoint". No individual ride pins anymore. I bought a shivering timbers pin at cedarpoint a few years back, but could not find a shivering timbers pin at michigans adventure.

All parks cost money to run. My city picnic park cost's the city money to keep it up and running. So should they just close it down and build condos because it's not making them money? Not only that, but it was mentioned that most of the people that visit the park are from out of town. That would mean a lot of revenue loss for local businesses and a reduction in tax money as well.

They just got the ride this year. I don't think it's going away anytime soon. Give the ride time to settle in. It was just torn down, referbed, and set back up. There are bound to be a few bugs. As far as line jumping goes, I have yet to go to a park where there has not been any line jumping.

Lol^^^ I need to transfer the vhs, to dvd. I can't believe that they still sell vcr's at the store.

Thank you.

People that don't use turn siginals, is one of my pet peeves.

You mean these gates.... I thought they were weird as well.

I thought it was sold to a small park up north(Chicago maybe), or am I thinking of another coaster?

Sweet, we have a florida trip planned for the fall of 2011. We will have to hit this park up for sure.

I agree. The passes may be a little pricey, but you get what you pay for.

Yes they do. Here is the prices of the annual passes. http://allears.net/pl/apass.htm I think there are blackout dates for florida residents though.

Not really. Dragster is a one trick pony. Xcelerator is a full circuit coaster.

So it's going to cost me an extra $13 for a full week at the resort. Not enough for me to cancel my plans.

Because dragster was a totaly new type of coaster never before built, as where all the other coasters at cedarpoint have been built elsewhere before....just not as big.

That can almost be said for most of the coaster companies out there today. With the exception of a few coasters over seas, what has not been done? If it were me running the park, I would put in a ride like x2 or a dive machine. Something that people in that neck of the woods don't see. The general public does not pay attention to things like this.

Hmmm... I am almost the same as you, and I had no problem. Might have been a bad seat.

Exactly... They took technolagy that was already out there, and just made it bigger. Imo, making something that already exists, taller/ bigger is not groundbraking. It's more like pushing the envelope. Groundbreaking... The term groundbreaking, when used as an adjective, may mean being or making something that has never been done or seen or made before; "stylistically innovative works".

Exactly...Like I said, they were not the first of there type of coasters...just a little taller, and taller does not mean better. I am in no way saying that the rides were no good, I am just showing that they were not the first type of that type of coaster built. Corkscrew was not the first of it's type of coaster. They just made it a little longer or taller with technology and elements that were already around. When I think of groundbraking, I think of something that has never been done before. Like when x was built at magic mountain. That was a new type of coaster. The only groundbraking coaster at cedarpoint, is dragster. Cedarpoint has for the most part, been smart about not going with a new ride type. The exception being dragster and shoot the rapids to a point.

Montu is a larger ride than raptor is.It is longer, and there is one more inversion than raptor. Again, just because a ride is taller, it does not make it better. I am not saying that raptor is a bad ride...because it's not. I am saying that just because there is a version of a ride already built, it does not mean that cedarpoint will not build there own version of it just because someone else already has one. If that was the case, corkscrew, mantis, maverick, gemini, wicked twister, raptor, disaster transport, mean streak, wildcat, blue streak, iron dragon, millennium force, mine ride, woodstock express, jr gemini, would never had been built. The only exception that you can make was with dragster. Cedarpoint was just taking a ride that already exsists, and making it a little taller. And that takes me back to my point of just because it is taller, it does not mean it's better. Just because cedarpoint has not built a new wood coaster, means nothing. They have built them at other cedarfair parks in the past few years. Besides that, up untill recently, was there really a need/ want for another wooden coaster at cedarpoint? I am not even sure they NEED another wooden coaster. I think it's more of a wishlist item for coaster geeks(like me).

The same can be said for any type of coaster. What else can they do to a wood coaster? What new kind of inversion can there be? Not just with B&M. Batman has an inline twist.... The cobra roll was not new. Kumba at busch gaardens had that first. http://www.rcdb.com/94.htm I am not sure what inversion you are talking about on mantis, that was not around already. Making something taller, does not make it better. I think the batman clones are more intense than raptor is, and I think alpengeist and montu ar loads better than raptor, but that's my personal preference. Look at nemesis at alton towers.... http://www.rcdb.com/776.htm?p=0 It's under 50 feet tall.Some people say it's one of the most intense inverted coasters out there. Don't get me wrong, raptor is still one of my favorite rides at cedarpoint, but it was nowhere near groundbraking when it was built.Maybe a few feet taller than the last one built, but what does that really add to it?

I could tell you, but I would have to kill you.

I woulden't say that is true. Look at raptor. Batman was around for a few years before raptor was built. Same thing can be said about mantis. There were other B&M standups before mantis was built. Iron wolf for example.

I was able to start on another box today. In this box, is a lot of coaster related movies and amusement parks. Plus there is a Disneyworld cd as well. I have a few of the old cedarpoint videos. Mantis promo video. Raptors promo video. Got this on ebay a few years ago...typical lame 80's coaster video. Universal studios promo video Old Disney promo video This was actualy a decent video Can't find the cover to this one Disneyland dvd...this is a great dvd, if you see it, I suggest you get it. Maverick promo video Kennywood park dvd There is more thancorn in Indiana...including this dvd. Disney planning dvd Another planning dvd Disney cruise dvd Every coaster geek has this dvd Another ebay dvd. This is a....interesting movie. Lame... I saved the best dvd's for last. If you don't have any of the coasters in the raw videos, I sugest you get them now!! I also have the Disneyworld soundtrack Back of cd