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  1. 5 hours ago, prozach626 said:

    Lol. I totally see where you're coming from, looking at it from the outside in. But, in all fairness, people have been asking for the Batmobile's return, for years. The Batman 5k queue was in need of being updated, and it received some nice TLC.

    WoF has constant beautification and improvement upgrades each year. It's good to see that kind of effort being put into our MO park. The difference is, WoF has the most luke warm coaster line-up in the midwest, so if SFSTL can come up to their quality standards with our line-up, it would be tremendous.

    Cat Woman's new location next year will probably revitalize that area, and I think it will look good on top of the hill. The location will provide the same illusion of added height Superman did. We'll all miss Superman, but let's face it, from a maintenance standpoint it was a piece of shit. It didn't make a dead spot in the park any less dead. SFSTL made the right choice.

    If I had to put one thing on my wishlist for the near future, it would be some TLC for Screamin' Eagle. Queue/station improvements, return of the logo, and chaser lights would be well received. I don't think the chaser lights would even have to run throughout the course to have a strong effect. They could stop after the train passed the station. Are the floodlights still on the first hill?

    I've seen nothing but positive improvements this year. I'm looking forward to our first trip... whenever that may be.

    I'm pretty happy about most of the changes this year but I'm still not happy about the removal of Superman and especially not the moving of Cat Woman's Whip to it's plot. I would have rather seen that spot stay open for a new drop tower to eventually fill that space.

    I'm also not very optimistic on the "TLC" upgrades coming to that area with the new ride. The "area" improvements around Supergirl were a downgrade in my opinion and looks horribly out of place - but that is the story with pretty much any "new-era" DC theming. SFOG's Gotham area renovations were feel tacky and cheap in comparison to the original (R.I.P the original Mindbender sign). This is actually not Six Flag's fault - DC's contract with Six Flags dictates that the surrounding area any new DC ride goes in must ride must adhere to a strict set of branding that controls everything from the overall appearance, color schemes, and even the bizarre disuse of apostrophes in the new ride's name. When I say "new-era" DC, this is what I am talking about - one of the reasons these new DC-themed haven't been going in the DC Plaza area is because (believe it or not) the area is already considered obsolete according to DC - meaning a new ride would have to include changes to the area. One of the only ways the park has been able to get any funding from cooperate the past few years has been to justifying it with the addition of a new ride - and hence they opted to place rides in other areas of the park desperately in need of infrastructure improvements even if the new ride's placement there makes no sense.

    When I first heard about the removal of Superman, I swore off the park for the next several seasons. Now as I hear about more and more of the changes, I am starting to reconsider my position. This is the first year where I can actually get behind [u]most[/u] of the infrastructure "improvements". The entrance last year was also a nice touch (I have yet to see it in person, though) but I wasn't happy about the removal of the historic lamps as I always thought they were super cool. Thankfully, everything else was truly an upgrade with that one. Most of the changes that made me upset came pre-2020 (and it was the end of 2019 when I finally gave up on the park) and we've seen a good turn for the better since then with some "true" infrastructure improvements, but I still strongly hold my opinion on Cat Woman's Whip.

    I've always been a big proponent of restoring Screamin' Eagle to some of it's former glory too, but I'm not sure we'll see that anytime soon.

    5 hours ago, Mike240SX said:

     It's not even about new rides...personally, if I frequented any SF park, I'd be clamoring for them to do something about the horrific food service experiences before any kind of prettying up of the park.  But maybe that's just me.

    I stopped buying Six Flags season passes a few years ago, ending a 10-year streak of always having a pass, because I couldn't stand to see how run-down and bad the park looks, and did not like several of the changes ("additions") being made to the park. I much prefer Worlds of Fun nowadays despite their sub-par coaster collection because the park atmosphere is so much higher quality. It's one of the most beautiful parks in the Cedar Fair chain, which is shocking because it's also one of the lowest. Meanwhile, I argue SFStL in 2019 (my last visit) was one of the worst.

    Likewise, I've also spent more time than ever the last three years at SDC for similar reasons.

     

    5 hours ago, liltrekkie said:

    It's well known that Six Flags St. louis is one of the chains lowest favored chains in corporates eyes. We take what we can get. 

    Six Flags St. Louis is actually the one of the highest profiting parks in the chain (probably in part due to the low amount of investment made each year). The reason we don't get the capital other parks do is because Six Flags has to push much harder to draw crowds into those parks due to more competition in the local region, and Six Flags simply sees no need to spend anymore money at SFStL than it has to as it's doing fine on it's own. Holiday World and SDC are really of no concern to SFStL as they target two different markets (this has been beaten to death on here before).

    6 hours ago, CP_RULES said:

    My husband and I have reservations for this weekend to get our season passes and ride a few rides while we are there. How have the crowds been? We are mostly going to get our passes set up so we can go to other parks we have never been to. Also to see my husbands family who lives nearby. We won’t be motivated to stay too long, but it’d be nice to hop on a few favorites. I haven’t ridden Boss since they modified it, but it might be too cold for it to get up and running anyways. Poor old thing needs some love!

    You really haven't missed anything with the Boss - it was one of the main changes from the past several years that carried the most weight in my decision to cut my pass. The ride is basically dead to me now with the way it crawls through the second half. However, love is on the way ...

  2. My first thought was new trains for Magnum, but it couldn’t be because the guide wheels would have to be on the inside but they’re on the outside in the drawing. Same for Corkscrew.

     

    I sure hope they’re for Millenium Force. I didn’t leave MF force last year thinking it needs entire new trains, but my first ride in the front of (IIRC) red train was just awful. Talk about a depressing welcome back 10 years since my last visit. It jackhammered through the course and left all three of us with a headache. It was also my brother’s first - and only - ride on MF. It put a real sour taste in his mouth, which is unfortunate because our ride later in a different train just as a good as we remembered from 10 years ago.

  3. This flyover by a local news chopper gives a really good view at the construction progress of the Jurassic Park coaster.

     

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    It’s insane just how accurate this video is turning out to be; all the way down to the supports and buildings so far. I guess it’s to be expected after the concept videos for Hagrid’s where also right on the dime and I know from a friend who interned there a few summers back that both projects were leaked by the same thing.

     

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  4. I like the new entrance - I don't think it's terrible. It's clean and Gatekeeper flying through it really does set the tone well. The plaza as soon as you enter could use a lot of work though - it's an awful hodgepodge of odd themes and old buildings

     

    However, I think that the new one at Carowinds (built in a similar style) is awful and ugly as sin. It has no charm and doesn't fit the park at all (just another reason on my list why I don't like Carowinds much). Because I can't unassociate the style of the entrance with Cedar Point, it just seems forced. I wish they would've left the original.

  5. Thanks for these, keep them coming! It’s amazing that Cedar Point just keeps improving the atmosphere and lineup year after year after already being so damn good.

     

    Breakers and the new beach front were huge improvements last year over my first visit in 2009 and solidified CP as my favorite park. You just can’t replicate being on a beach with the world’s best collection of roller coasters around you.

     

    EDIT: I take part of that back. They took out my baby, Demon Drop, but at least it still operates at Dorney.

  6. I was wondering how a park like this with so many guests (even when at limited capacity) would manage something like that without massive lines at the gate.

     

    You've never been to an Asian Disney park, have you? There are mile-long lines at the gate every single morning well before the park opens. The parks will probably just have the temperature monitor stations set up as far from the gate as possible and have them up and running at 5am daily.

    No, I haven’t unfortunately. However, I was concerned because I knew they get long lines already as-is (I remember the news articles from SHDL’s opening) and was thinking that adding a temperature station where each guest needs to be stopped would create lines from hell.

     

    Edit: I know what the system that will be used is and that's it's automated. I am talking about what my initial reactions when the rumor of temperature checks to enter the park first popped up - before we knew it would be automated.

  7. I wholly agree and I believe we all would. However, I think we are calling it a “flume” because it probably put such a bad taste in CP’s mouth that it may be the last, closest thing to a proper flume we’ll get for a little while ... which brings us back around to why we are lusting for another flume at CP in the first place. STR was such a disappointment to begin.

  8. The only ones I’ve ever seen have always been busy. Even the surrounding areas were always occupied by guests spraying each other with the guns along the side the course. I would have thought this would be the perfect type of ride for Forbidden Frontier and I’ve never heard of them being unpopular.

     

    Somehow I had no idea SFGAM has one.

  9. I am surprised S&S never took arrows old flumes designs and modernized them

    I've heard that S&S's interest in Arrow was mostly for the 4D concept, which makes sense if true as they are the only Arrow designs they've continued. X2 was a marketing success despite the early mechanical issues, and S&S mostly resolved them before building the next two.

     

    Count me in as one who'd like to see a modern flume come to Cedar Point. The problem is I can only see one logical place to put it without removing another ride ... and that's the spot of the last one (it would have to head more towards MF's airtime hills this time as most of the old plot is occupied.)

     

    What's the old STR station even used for anymore, and why is it connected to the queue of the skycoaster? Isn't the old STR Outpost on the Frontier Trail side of the railroad tracks used for the skycoaster?

     

    Alternatively, if Cedar Point doesn't get a classic log flume, I suppose I could see them getting a Mack water coaster (not a Power Splash, but that would technically count as well) if they ever tear out Snake River Falls. It's not as family friendly, but it would add to their coaster count. Just food for thought.

     

    However, I think before we get a new flume at CP (after the failure of STR) we are more likely to get a Mack Splash Battle. It would fall right in line with the target of Forbidden Frontier and would fit nicely somewhere on the island.

     

    I just saw that Disneyland’s Splash Mountain cost $75 million in 1987. Holy cow.

    That is Splash Mountain after all ... it wouldn't have to be anywhere near that price tag.

  10. Missouri plans to open all businesses today with no limits on occupancy for some (?) venues, just distancing requirements. I’m getting mixed info, but so far I haven’t looked a ton into it. Some local government specific regulations are of course still in place as the situation varies by community. What I do know is a large outdoor venue I work at outside the KC metro area has been allowed to reopen with no occupancy cap, but we are on 200+ acres. Similar facilities around the state have also reopened in the same fashion, with the exception being one indoor one that does have an occupancy cap.

     

    Here’s an article from the KC area:

    https://www.kshb.com/news/coronavirus/missouri-gov-mike-parson-discusses-plan-to-reopen-economy

     

    And from StL:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ksdk.com/amp/article/news/local/missouri-reopening-plan/63-f8d38bfd-17df-4b37-87f0-6b2f1497e0c9

     

    If my understanding is correct, I’m not surprised SFStL may be amongst the first parks in the chain to reopen given Missouri’s ambitious reopening plan.

     

    I know for my community in the mid-Missouri area we’ve only had ~3 total hospitalizations of COVID-19 since the start of it and hospitals are sitting empty otherwise. The plans specified on the articles mentioned it being contingent on the capacity of the local health care and I think that’s fair. StL and KC ought to be more cautious but communities like my own are really suffering economically and we have the capability of helping more people if the infection rate goes up. I think it’s a fair compromise to try to keep business afloat through all this so long as it’s kept played by ear.

  11. I wish we were treated like a Cedar Fair park. I enjoy myself more at even the lower-tier CF parks than I do most Six Flags. Despite having the inferior coaster collection, I think WoF is the overall better park over SFSTL.

    I agree. I can really only comment on WoF as a lower tier park. When I've visited, it's been very well maintained. The area around Patriot looks great. The new thrill rides are nice, but it 'seems' that a park like WoF focuses more on improving the overall environment to reflect a higher quality of product. I actually enjoy Cedar Fair's clean-lines corporate feel.

    These were exactly my same thoughts. Don't forget there aren't ads on every surface too.

  12. That was really awesome, thank you for sharing! It's funny to me to think that some of these were the only parks I've visited this year and I had no clue then that things would shut down soon after.

     

    I've only ever been to SoCal a few times but I've been all over and really appreciate the geography, so in general seeing all the random places I've been or recognized was also really neat! It made me watch through the end without skipping.

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