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Ferrari World Discussion Thread
Ratmead replied to Captain Jack's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
That launch is insane, how much further do you think they can push roller coasters until they have to enclose the trains? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNV_0f49q8M&t=1m9s That video above doesn't look like its filled with airtime at the end though. -
That's fine. Don't be a douche on how you present your opinion. You were harsh and forgot to say "I think..." Whoa dude you are calling me a douche? When was I a douche? That is crazy you attack your members like that. You also say I am clueless? Really? I am just saying what other people are saying. I never said they spent a million dollars on anything, and if you notice there isn't a logo, or even any graphics on the site that mention Cheetah Hunt. If you cannot see that this was a last second change, you are a clueless douche.
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No it's not really really bad. Not at all. It may not be as creative as names we've seen out of Busch in the past, but saying it's really really bad is not accurate. "Drop Tower" is a really really bad name. "Flight Deck" is a really really bad name. Cheetah Hunt is not really really bad, it's just not what we were expecting and a bit disappointing. But it's not really really bad. Get real. Flight deck = Drop Tower = Cheetah Hunt. For real, you will never be able to sway my opinion that this is a really really bad name. Years of have cool names for their big roller coasters and they just through away a cool tradition of amazing names. Some of you can say "it is just a name," but companies put millions of dollars into names and logos, the name does matter. BGT is my home park, and the ride is still going to be amazing, but to argue that this whole naming thing is not a huge blunder, is ridiculous, the outcry on facebook alone says so.
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While I feel sort of bad for Busch for taking so much heat for the name, it is a really really bad name. It is another case of some suits in an office somewhere so out of touch with reality. I asked this before and didn't get a response, did anyone hear of a price tag yet? Ugh, this quote from Tampabay.com "We think the name is self-explanatory, so we're not changing our mind," said Jim Dean, park general manager. He should have said, "so we're not changing our mind's again today." I heard somewhere today that when the GM was talking to some people he accidentally called it Cheetaka, true story, lol.
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Listen to that original 6+ minute video, every time they mention Cheetah Hunt, you can tell the audio has been cut. You never actually see anyone say it. Just screams of last minute change. Disappointed about the lap bar thing, how could they mess that up? Oh well, hopefully we get some vertical construction now.
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If it is really gonna be just a lapbar this thing will be crazy. What if with the dual loading platform they have some trains that are OTSRs and some that are lapbars. Launching up that tower with just a lapbar is going to be pretty amazing. The last thing I am going to say about the name, it seem's like everyone had accepted that was Cheetaka and it grew on everyone. They just had to change it up just to prove the fan sites wrong? So they could make a comment like "don't believe the rumors." They still own the trademark, they should just go back to it. Marketing Cheetaka is gonna be easier than Cheetah Hunt at this point. Did they ever say how much this thing cost?
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You are right about them going through changes, and it is to be expected, but like I said, it doesn't hurt any less, lol. The thing is, the layout that I found on Wichman's site many many months ago is pretty much inline with this alternate Cheetaka layout I speak of. The two inversions that were removed look the exact same from the top down view. Go look at the leaked layout again, in the Rhino Rally it should have been an inline twist, but instead it is the trick track thing. Over the EoA path, it could have been a corkscrew, but now it is like a non-inverting corkscrew. Just to be clear, I think this ride is going to be very very awesome. However it is not what it could/should have been. Also, that is awesome about lapbars, I really wasn't expecting that, apparently neither was the animator. Gonna be pretty crazy to go through an inline twist with just a lap bar, assuming it doesn't get removed.
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I am not just assuming there was another inline twist and corkscrew over the EoA path. It was in there, I have seen a picture of it and it was labelled with the elements (now of course I do not expect you to believe me, because I cannot post the picture for the security of the source) But if my previous posts say anything, I can assure you I am not here to deceive. I am not saying they changed it out of spite, but they did change things. I suspect they had a few versions of the coaster in varying degrees of intensity. I know I mentioned this on another forum, but this is exactly like SheiKra's inline twist getting removed. I guess it is the downside to seeing stuff before it is official, but that doesn't make it hurt any less.
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That is hilarious. It feels like they changed it last second when they realized they had nothing to announce. Trademarks and concept art are a little more than rumors, a rumor would be, what the hell happened to the other inline twist and corkscrew over the EoA path? Oh yeah, our Cheetaka got neutered.
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Yeah, I am sure you guys are right. They use the box track for segments that require more structure right? Makes sense for that to be at the top of the figure 8 I just hope they don't litter the ride with the square to triangle transitions, they look ridiculous. What is up with the facebook announcement? Cheetaka (have a feeling that's not the name) must have cost a pretty penny.
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I think they may be hiding breaks... I just noticed something, we can all agree that the 4 videos they released show a majority of the ride, right? Watch the video again, notice how all the track is the triangle Intamin track? Remember the facebook page BGT posted, that clearly shows a piece of box track that will be for some type of vertical element, it either looks like the top of the figure 8 tower, or a drop somewhere. I am 99.9% sure I am looking way too far into this, and it is probably just an incorrect animation, but I wonder if there is more than the video is letting on... I mean really, what is left to announce, we have the almost the entire ride... Knowing what we know about the layout and the videos, where could that piece go? I just watched the video again and there aren't too many places to have that straight of a piece and elevation. Only after the second and third launches I guess. I know people noticed some off things in the animation already, but would the official video be incorrect about track like that?
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I see what you are saying, they use the same noise as the other launch. Gotta remember that first video is coming directly from a 100+ foot drop though. You definitely aren't the only one, I admit it's weird to have such a straight piece of track, sad thing is I wouldn't be surprised to see trims there. There was a layout that had it incorrectly labeled that made its way around the internet, so I am sure everyone figured there was one there.
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Just going off the plans, it looks like the queue will be just in the old monorail station. Again I don't see how that is it though, it just seems too small. Hopefully the plans are incomplete and there is good surprise regarding the queue, but it looks pretty clear cut if you ask me. That said it would be probably the smallest queue at BGT so hopefully I am just missing something. The train does get launched out of the station, that is the first. The second launch (boost really now that the video confirms it) is directly after the turn out of the station, with the third being on the way back near rhino rally.
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I guess since you can't picture it, there won't be any animal interaction. Really? Who are you rolling your eyes at? So we know the exhibit layout, we know the coaster layout, we know the exhibit is on one side of the path, the queue is on the other. This may blow your mind but the reason I can't picture it is because I can picture what the area is going to look like. I was asking a question, "where would it possibly interact with the exhibit?" Instead of rolling your eyes, why not answer the question? Wait, you didn't want to add to the discussion, just wanted to post your little remark, for what? I never said there wasn't going to be any animal interaction, I just said I didn't see where it would happen. Anyways, I honestly don't know if they are going to time up the launches with the cheetahs running, that would be cool but who knows. Not sure how much you would be able to see from the coaster anyways. We have very good idea of what the queue is going to look like, there just isn't a place for cheetahs to get there. I don't have any inside information, I am just going by what was in all those plans, and honestly those plans are batting 1.000. After Manta, I think this rides queue will be a bit of a letdown. Don't get me wrong, this ride is going to be amazing, but Manta's queue set the bar very high, so high I don't think a refurbed monorail station is going to cut it. In case anyone missed it, here is what the cheetah exhibit will look like. Unless Busch all the sudden got really good at keeping secrets, this is the only cheetah exhibit. I can post one that isn't colored if you would like, I just think this one is a bit easier to read.
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I really don't see how this thing is going to interact with the exhibit. Other than the cheetah lure track near the first launch, where would it possibly interact with the exhibit? I know Busch said it, but I think the "interactive exhibit" is more about the technology inside the exhibit, there are a bunch of TVs in the exhibit.
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I totally expect there to be a heartline roll in the Rhino Rally trench, if you look at the layout, it either has an inversion there or just a slalom type thing going side to side. This latest video shows that the screamscape layout was incorrect about the second launch. Notice the Moroccan style arch above the second launch, look for the area to be full of those arches.
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I don't think I posted this yet, but if anyone is interested in how the cheetah exhibit will be, here it is: If you notice, there is a path that cuts the exhibit in half almost, there is actually going to be a tunnel the cheetahs go in to get to the side with the lure track, they enter on one side of the path and exit right where the lure track starts. In that octagon looking area of the path, there will also be a kids crawl.