Danrarbc

Cooperate Loves SFSTL! (People show up even when they do nothing)

Cedar Fair isn't a Larson fan - it's more likely ALL of them are being removed than any being relocated. As for the possible relocation of Green Lantern that'd be anyone's guess on if it's going to happen. Legacy Six Flags relocated 3 B&Ms INCLUDING that one so that's something I could have easily seen happening if they were calling the shots. But I also don't think Kingda Ka would be closing if they were in charge still. This is Cedar Fair so I really don't know if they'd have the appetite for a relocation.

Most of the rides being removed at the other parks are being removed for maintenance cost reasons. Green Lantern is probably one of the only exceptions. Great Adventure's Top Spin has been problematic as well - and the parachute tower hadn't been running for a while. La Vibora is in the same boat - and Cedar Fair puts Larson Loops in that category too.

I don't think it'll be a copy of Wrath of Rakshasa - after all that layout is different from Dr Diabolical despite being similar in size. The land area of La Vibora and El Diablo combined is a bit larger than Wrath. But I don't think it's big enough for a giga height dive - certainly not using the full size trains.

It’s just going to be one extra degree beyond vertical. That’s the game they’ve been playing with Dives recently.

The sum of the specific items they announced between those and the 2025 items that are known still isn’t close to $1B. There’s a bunch of unannounced stuff not listed.

I think I'd prefer Gravity Group prefab track over Titan Track.

If they build it they absolutely could come. Same goes for events - better quality events will make the park better compete with other events around town. I don’t think the first season of Holiday in the Park was bad for instance. It was a good start. But it needed to build on that and I’m not sure it really did. With Cedar Fair running the show though and how great Winterfest is I think there’s potential there. But keep in mind even they stopped doing Winterfest at Worlds of Fun.

I didn't make Christmas in July up. It's like a thing some people do, BTW. I'm just saying if they aren't doing Winterfest yet there's a way to use the decorations again.

Christmas in July could work as a special event.

Honestly if the only major addition for 2025 is Winterfest I’d probably actually be pretty happy. I miss Holiday in the Park. PS: If Cedar Flags has any idea of what is good for it they’d make all Halloween events ‘Fright Fest’ and all Christmas events ‘Winterfest’. They go together perfectly.

This is pretty typical of Cedar Fair. They don't require that parks open new attraction every year - Six Flags did. Both companies allocate a certain amount of money for capital improvements though. Cedar Fair parks tended to announce things like new restaurants and other assorted updates more like January-February. That WOULD be something I'd love to see at SFStL. An overhaul of the menus in general and at least one more decent-sized sit down restaurant. Mooseburger could be removed and something not unlike Lazy Bear Lodge/The Farmhouse/Grand Pavillion/Miami River Brewhouse could be built in its place. With the attention to food quality Cedar Fair has had and a nice new eatery like that we could really be in for a treat. And this is exactly the kind of thing we wouldn't know about until the new year. PS: Cedar Fair parks have also commissioned custom beers from local craft breweries. I would LOVE if SFStL ended up doing this - they have a large number of breweries to choose from.

A B&M dive, even a small one, costs considerably more than an RMC Iron Horse.

BTW there's precedent for Six Flags St Louis cutting supports down on relocated rides to make them fit on literally the same exact hill back there. Flashback's lift supports were shortened to install Boomerang in that location - Chang's post-lift turnaround supports could receive the same treatment to make the placement I mocked up possible. Ryan the Ride Mechanic theorizes that there MIGHT be a part that B&M sources from a third party that has had the manufacturing tolerances loosened and that's creating the recent B&M rattle problem. He especially arrived at this theory learning that renovated OLD trains are seeing the same kinds of issues the new builds are. Green Lantern may be in that boat - it's received new assemblies that aren't built to the spec B&M originally intended.

Floorless trains cost more money. They’d totally not do that