RollerKid500

I don't even know how to comprehend posts like this. IMO, they are just so stupid that it makes my head seriously spin. So let me just try to breakdown what you're saying so I can try to put SOME sort of understanding behind it. 1. So you're saying that Colossus, on it's own, was a great ride, and that no matter what RMC does, cannot make it better? 2. You're saying that RMC couldn't possibly make a fun, or a more fun coaster out of Colossus? 3. You're saying that Colossus, despite that most enthusiasts have been complaining about it's decline for literally 25+ years, shouldn't be touched at all? 4. You're saying that Cyclone in New England is a better, more iconic roller coaster that Colossus? 5. You're saying that despite how insanely well received by both the public and enthusiasts, and how highly rated the RMC re-dos of the three Six Flags woodies so far (Texas Giant, Iron Rattler, Medusa) have been, that no more future rides of this type should be built. Here's what *I* am saying - Rocky Mountain is currently building some of the best roller coasters in the world. There are very, VERY few that have had the track record that company has managed to produce in a short amount of time and a Rocky Mountain re-do of Colossus has a great potential to instantly be the best ride in the park, and I would put money on that bet. If you *honestly believe* that RMC coming in and making modifications to Colossus is going to be WORSE than just letting Colossus run as is (a terrible shadow of it's former self) then you sir are a perfect example of why some people shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion. /end rant --Robb Alvey DISCLAIMER: This post does not mean to inflict on anyones opinions directly, or point any fingers. It's just what has been on my mind. Do not interpret this violently. Everyone here has been and is entitle to their own opinions. Should they be stated is simply a belief of the individual. There is some confusion here. So, let's straighten this out one bit at a time: 1. Colossus was a good ride. It was by far the most iconic wooden coaster in at least the US, but it was still known worldwide. Colossus is a major part of the parks skyline, and it serves as a reminder to the classic days pre-Six Flags. How many white-woodies have to be torn down this decade? 2. I'm not instating that the ride may have a better future. It's more so that they ride will practically be a mirror of itself, and that, because of the figure-8 design, the only elements that could possibly be placed would turn out very SFish gimmicky. IMO, it's not worth a treatment for these features. For those of you who want airtime, understand that, this would be full of inversions. A cliche move on Six Flag's part. 3. I understand Colossus needs care. Eventually, all wooden coaster will come to a demise, it's just common sense. And someday, the question will come: why build wooden coaster anymore to have more maintenance and less durability? Those times may just be full of RMCs, and is that unique anymore? If they were to tear it down, does SFMM need another YOLOcoaster? There are some so hyped up about SFMM that they forget what they have, and other parks don't. Look around the chain, and towards the bottom you will see parks like SFM, SFA, SFDK, and SFSTL. SFMM has many unique rides, very few clones, and rare rides, especially in the US. Green Lantern - the only Zac Spin in N. America, and while neutered, you still won't find the experience elsewhere here. Riddler's Revenge - A large B&M standup with by far, one of the most unique layouts of any B&M coaster. Tatsu - the only unique flyer under the Six Flags name. Revolution - a classic, extremely iconic Schwarzkopf, that unfortunately, has declined because of Six Flags, but none the less is still kicking. Superman - one of the tallest and fastest rides in the world. Goliath - Only two of these Giovanolas were ever built, and this one is the longer of the two with it's final helix. Need I mention: X2, Full Throttle, or Apocalypse? If one ride is bad, then there are still more than plenty others to ride. Sure competition there is fierce, and the population large, but what about dealing with two RMCs and several world class wooden coasters within under 7 hours by car (SFSFTL), or being in a city with §six million more people than LA (SFMM)? And to them, Six Flags gimmicky is a relocated Boomerang, branded as new and unique, or a small line up of coasters, although they do now have Steel Medusa. SFMM doesn't need more - no RMC's or mega-lites. The only things they need to do is to share their budget down the chain, improve their cleanness, add another real wooden coaster to fill in for Pysclone, and fix Revolution. The YOLOcoaster fantasies are blinding many. Remember, Six Flags did have some bankruptcy problems in '10. 4. Cyclone is not a more iconic coaster than Colossus. It is a much more deserving candidate for the treatment, and much a better existing support layout for a more interesting RMC redo. There are also other coasters that need the treatment more than Colossus: The Boss, Monstre, Roar, The Predator, possibly Georgia Cyclone (if the retracking doesn't hold up). Look at the Boss, as it has never had a good record; it still runs the terrible G trains, and Monstre looks like it could collapse (it might make a better bonfire than an Iron Horse). 5. I love RMC's. All their creations have impressed me greatly, and really make good use of an old ride. I was especially excited for SDC and their Outlaw Run, as well as SFM's Medusa. But what I don't to see is neglect towards other parks. It's bad enough that only Six Flags can currently Iron Horse a coaster under RMC's agreement, but to want to build the next few in larger parks, even if it means using a less likely candidate, is just totally ignorant. Someday, the world would be full of RMC's, and the fad will be over. But until then, they don't need to let some of the rides beat themselves up further and rot. Those rides need the treatment and should be the top candidates. Just think about the streak they are on, and what will happen when other corporations get their hands on this technology. Some rides will be forgotten, and poor choices will be to blame. Say if the interest died out, or RMC began cloning: will some of these rides ever be built, even at a compromise? And Robb, the real difference in "should" and "could" is an opinion itself; the matter lies in one hand, however firm it may be, but, never in agreement. None of this is intended to cause commotion or flame waring. I have simply wanted to state my opinion, like everyone else has in theis thread. If it was indifferent from others, then would it be an opinion? Please excuse me if this is somewhat abstract or doesn't coincide with your opinions.

Honestly, Colossus wound make a terrible, cliche RMC. Does SFMM really need another coaster to replace Colossus? No- and there are other parks with rides in need of the treatment. Colossus was a historic roller coaster, and having riding it twice in '08, I loved the ride. It may still be dueling today had they not established this plan to let it go. On the other hand, Cyclone is going to be a interesting RMC. It was in far more need of a treatment than Colossus, and in its condition, it was falling apart. The layout of Cyclone is far superior for a RMC than was Colossus's. I know that others may disagree, but I'd hate to see steel and wood together next year.

I'm interested in going. SFSTL was my home park, and I'll do my best to get back out there. Would it be during the Daredevil Daze event?

The park looks good! I've never been to EG, so I am not the one to comment on accuracy. However, even after my years of experience in the game, I just found out about the alpha paths! They, unlike path covers, leave shadows on the ground and look so much better IMO. Plus the follows SG's Planters. Also, try mixing up the varieties in your rocks by using other sets as well. I believe that Weber just released a fantastic medium-sized rock set.

Stress wise, it should be lighter. I rode Boss in the lead car, and you can feel just how loose the G trains are on it, jolting to side to side on turns. Timberliners steer themselves, but are heavier. I'm sure they would make a huge difference and STL have a VERY open view, which is why they didn't run PTC IMO (The G trains were the only ones who offered an open front at that time).

I took a long trip to SFSTL last night, and in short, here's what I've collected:Batman was repainted, but the paint has already worn a lot on the track, as it if was missed. They still have that billboard between Panda Express and Johnny Rockets that closes down that shortcut. The Boss got retracked in the helix, and OMG it is much smoother (for now). I witnessed the Mine Train break down. Ninja broke down as soon as we got to the park, and was down for a while on the MCBR. Screamin' Eagle and Superman broke down, but reopened quickly. The Boss only ran two trains even though it had and hour long wait, and Superman's West side was down like it always is. Why do they have the fence that blocks the view of the Mine Train? I would like to talk to Dave about opening up that view. And call me crazy, but what about Timberliners of the Boss. In theory, besides for financial reasons, could this be do able?