jordanwilcox11

If you can't handle a Morgan hyper are you sure you really want them to expand their coaster offerings to include more cutting edge rides? If I were you I'd be clamoring for more benches, carousels and for them to consider offering pony rides. Look at all these Valleytards defending Valleyfail.

As soon as it exits that helix, it slams against the side every. Single. Time.

I don't care if Walter the man who sells me pizza is nice. I care if there's rides worth going on. If I wanted to go to a park I would go to Boom Island. Give me rides.

Right. But this is exactly my point. You look at a company like Apple. Every product they make is the highest quality. If these companies are going to have some parks that are not the highest quality, they should let them go and put more wood behind fewer arrows. Okay, so you think Cedar Fair should sell off a bunch of profitable parks because you personally want a B&M? Got it. No, I think Cedar Fair should sell Valleyfair and put their resources toward parks they care about, and then let a private owner take over Valleyfair like what happened with Kentucky Kingdom and put some love and care into what is currently a crater of epic fail. You think being sold guarantees getting giant new rides? Go head to the Darien Lake thread and tell them that. So little goes on in either that there aren't even Wild Waves or Elitch's threads to post in. Renegade is a great GCI. Wild Thing is a painful and boring coaster. Excalibur is pure pain. High Roller is back breaking pain. Corkscrew is lame as can be. Steel Venom is decent. Anything else I should know about? Valleyfail = Epic Fail

Adventureland became a destination park with just 1 cheap coaster. Valleyfail can't even manage that hat trick. Adventureland is not a destination park, what you need to realize is, Cedar Fair caters to the GP, not the enthusiasts. They will get the same attendance at Valleyfair whether they add a B&M Invert, a Gale Force clone, or a waterpark expansion, so Cedar Fair is going to go on the cheaper side of things, which is why you guys get good, but lower cost coasters like: Impulse Clones, GCIs, and other things like that. Actually what we get are 2 things: Jack and Squat So please, tell me about your awesome GCI, Hyper Coaster, Inverted Impulse, Classic Woodie, and your brand new Starflyer........ If you look at Valleyfairs attendance records, you will see that it remains roughly the same whether they add a huge new ride or not. So why dump the money into a large coaster when attendance stays the same, and therefore in-park guest spending stays roughly the same, and therefore the net profit stays the same. It makes no sense from a finicial standpoint to add a huge addition, when your profits won't change in any significant way, a smaller coaster (Like a Gale Force clone) would fill almost every "gap" that a $15 million more one would. A large coaster would probably hurt the park in the long run in my opinion, if they don't make any more money, but they spend an extra $15 million over a cheaper adult coaster, that's $15 million not being spent on the next couple years's: Kids land expansions, Waterpark additions, general upkeep. It makes no sense........ I would take a Gale Force level coaster. Or a Monster level coaster. Instead Matt "Disney" Ouimet gives us Jack and Squat.

Adventureland became a destination park with just 1 cheap coaster. Valleyfail can't even manage that hat trick. Adventureland is not a destination park, what you need to realize is, Cedar Fair caters to the GP, not the enthusiasts. They will get the same attendance at Valleyfair whether they add a B&M Invert, a Gale Force clone, or a waterpark expansion, so Cedar Fair is going to go on the cheaper side of things, which is why you guys get good, but lower cost coasters like: Impulse Clones, GCIs, and other things like that. Actually what we get are 2 things: Jack and Squat

Adventureland became a destination park with just 1 cheap coaster. Valleyfail can't even manage that hat trick.

Right. But this is exactly my point. You look at a company like Apple. Every product they make is the highest quality. If these companies are going to have some parks that are not the highest quality, they should let them go and put more wood behind fewer arrows. Okay, so you think Cedar Fair should sell off a bunch of profitable parks because you personally want a B&M? Got it. No, I think Cedar Fair should sell Valleyfair and put their resources toward parks they care about, and then let a private owner take over Valleyfair like what happened with Kentucky Kingdom and put some love and care into what is currently a crater of epic fail.

Right. But this is exactly my point. You look at a company like Apple. Every product they make is the highest quality. If these companies are going to have some parks that are not the highest quality, they should let them go and put more wood behind fewer arrows.

I could give 2 pennies that Valleyfail has fun theming and a marching band whistling through it. Give me a B&M. Epic fail.

I've been to 6 Flags America. That is heaven compared to Valleyfail.

I just think it's sad that I wish we were at least La Ronde as the baseline. But nope, Valleyfair has defined a new low baseline.

Greater Montreal and greater Twin Cities are both at about 4 million in population. They have 2 B&M's. Valleyfair has coasters from the days of Ben Franklin

That Valleyfair sucks goat balls.

This is a great example actually. Even a so called joke park like Six Flags La Ronde has 2 B&M's! Still 0 for Valleyfair.