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  1. I see all of you mentioning Big Bad Wolf (which i never rode). I prefer its Arrow prototype big brother...The BAT @Kings Island. It was out of control and so fun. Almost always closed. I am one of the few that got to ride it, I'm also old now.



    I had the pleasure of riding both. And while BBW was close, there is/was no Suspended Arrow like the Bat. I'm old too, I guess, but I managed to ride it ten times in its short existence. I truly miss it.

  2. I have been to Disney three times and think that's enough. But I would like to say while I respect Rob's opinion, I have always suspected he's rather soft when it comes to Disney.

    I'm not soft on Disney I just happened to like "theme parks" more than I like "roller coasters." Seven Dwarfs Mine Train is one of the most perfect family coasters I've ridden (and I've pretty much ridden them all) as it's the perfect blend of thrills and very elaborate thematics that is targeted at a young audience.


    There is nothing wrong with liking theme parks just because it might not be your thing. Maybe you're soft for Ohio amusement parks or something?


    --Robb "Who the hell is Rob?" Alvey


    LOL, I'm very partial to KI and Cedar Point. I'm into extreme coasters. Doesn't mean I disrespect your opinions or preferences for family coasters and theming. Just pointing out you would make a good dwarf. And sorry, it is Robb, not Rob. My apologies.

  3. I have only experienced two, so my opinion is somewhat suspect. But I do live between two of the best amusement parks ever, Cedar Point and Kings Island, so I feel my opinion may count if you have to consider third world opinions.


    I have lusted over over RMC's every since they redid Texas Giant, and I thought either Outlaw Run or Iron Rattler would be the best of the bunch. (How can you not ride Iron Rattler virtually in POV through that wonderful setting and not think it ranks right up there with the best? Until you ride Wild Fire.) But the only one close to me was Goliath, and OMG. Maverick has always ranked number two on my top ten list but Goliath just stole that spot. It does things no roller coaster should be allowed to do. It blows you away. Yes, it's seems too short but what it does in that one minute of ride time is like nothing you will ever experience on a roller coaster. I should admit now I rode El Toro this year too and it's hard to choose between the two, but Goliath has to come out on top.


    Banshee is another list topper. Inverted coasters deliver a ride experience I feel that can't be topped by too many other coaster experiences. I have ridden Alpengeist, Montu, the Great Bear and Batman to name a few. I have always felt Raptor tops them all, but oh, Banshee. Banshee is the best of the lot.


    I haven't ridden The Seven Dwarves. I have been to Disney three times and think that's enough. But I would like to say while I respect Rob's opinion, I have always suspected he's rather soft when it comes to Disney. I don't know why I think that, but for some reason I just picture him as being kin or twin to Snow White in some surreal, parallel universe sort of way. He'd look good in a dress and surrounded by dwarves. Or being forced to sing eternally, "Hi ho, Hi ho, off to work I go..."

  4. Roller coasters can be violent things, but that is part of the fun.

    There's a difference between shitty coasters that are rough and AWESOME coasters that you need to learn how to ride. There isn't an SLC in the world that I would ride a second time. And some of them have been smooth. They just aren't good enough rides worthy of another go.


    SOB should be the poster child for rough, brutal and basically unridiable but I believe you understand the difference. (I know you do.) Even if wasn't painful, other than the drop and loop it was a boring ride. I have not had the pleasure of riding an SLC, so can't say. But to me the Beast is the perfect example. Great coaster once you learn how to ride it. If you don't know how to ride it, well it can throw you and hurt you. Mantis is another great example. If you don't how to ride it, it can hurt you. But it's a coaster we only ride once on a trip. It's just not that exciting, not when compared to Maverick. MF is one we only have to ride once because it doesn't compare to Maverick or Raptor either.


    But oh boy if I had the chance, I would have given anything to ride the original Bat at KI again. I'm sure people would have complained about head banging, but that coaster was everything a suspended coaster should be. It puts all other to shame. Ditto for the Crystal Beach Cyclone. God, what I would have given to ride that. I guess that's why I'm shocked people complain about Maverick.

  5. ^ Pro Tip #1 - Sit in the front row of the car. Pro Tip #2 - Lean in to the turn. You'll never hit your head or your neck again.


    Exactly. You can also lean forward. I have drilled into my son's head on Arrows with OSR's to lean forward and keep your head out of them. But once you know the layout, you can anticipate as Rob just said.

    The best way to make an SLC rideable as well! Or keep your head firmly against one side!


    I don't understand why real roller coasters enthusiasts don't get that. You want smooth and easy, there is the merry-go round. Bumper cars can jar your head. A scrambler throws your fellow rider into you forcefully. Roller coasters can be violent things, but that is part of the fun.

  6. Whether Mantis gets floorless or sit down trains, is moved to another park, or scrapped. Any of the three outcomes is good news as far as I am concerned. Mantis made Shockwave (a Togo Stand-up) in comparison seem smooth, enjoyable, and well engineered.


    I can't believe anyone complains about the restraints on Maverick or Maverick itself. Roller coasters are not meant to be old school luxury sedans that pamper you and rock you to sleep. They are to be exotic sport car that bring you to life. Having these elements and drops are not for sight seeing purposes, they are to fill you with forces and the Maverick is one of the best ones made. If anyone seriously thinks Maverick and its restraints are rough, spend some time on any traditional B&M, Arrow, Vekoma, Premier (if they have any that have not been changed), Schwartzkopf, Togo, etc. and bang your head on those restraints. Your head will be aching for quite a while afterwards. Maverick's restraints are very soft in comparison and unlike the above listed, they do not give you the headache the above listed will. Even if it did, Maverick is worth it. Other ones like Mantis (and Boomerangs) are not worth it.


    Very true. Arrows can have some of the roughest transitions on any coaster. Some of their mine rides can be rough and brutal. Magnum's bunny hills can be painful if you don't know how to ride it. If you can't ride Maverick and enjoy the wicked thrill it gives, it makes me wonder if people are becoming wimps. Just compare it to a bad arrow coaster and then realize what a blast it is with correctly done transitions.One of the major thrills of riding coaster is that you will receive this out of control and wild experience that leaves you breathless and wondering how safe the ride is but loving it feels like it is not.

  7. ^ Pro Tip #1 - Sit in the front row of the car. Pro Tip #2 - Lean in to the turn. You'll never hit your head or your neck again.


    I do those things already. But I still have to hold on to the restraints right by my shoulders and apply a lot of pressure. I want to put my hands up!


    Maverick is not a coaster you need or want to keep your hands up on. Pretend it's Raptor where you can't. It provides the thrills. Just sit back and enjoy. MF is the one to keep your hands up on.

  8. Some of the best rides do require a little defensive planning depending on your body type.

    True coaster nerds learn this, and also realize that if you want parks to build an intense ride, it might come with a little bit of discomfort and take some time to learn how to do it right. And once you do get the hang of it, it's not a problem at all. Kind of like having great sex.


    Side note - I'm assuming those people who bitch about Maverick's restraints have not had great sex and thus cannot relate to this concept at all.


    --Robb "For some of us, though, this just comes naturally." Alvey


    Rob, I'm now a very confused parent so thanks! My son is now 14 and you make a good point, but I don't want to make that analogy yet, LOL


    But seriously how can you be a roller coaster enthusiast and not learn to ride certain coasters 'defensively' so you get the most enjoyment out of them? I made sure I taught my son because he loves them as much as me. I want that to continue. (And no, I never found a way to make SOB enjoyable, but we have both enjoyed Mantis because I showed him.)

  9. If they're really "overhaulin" Mantis, they should replace Maverick's restraints with the i305 straps so I can actually re-ride that one as well!

    Only complete pussies have issues with Maverick's restraints. For the rest of us, they are just fine.


    They can at times, especially if you're a kid and you have thin legs. My son was 12 when I took him on the first time and he got stapled. Didn't stop him from getting right back on (We both love Maverick and usually ride 7-8 times when we visit).


    We learned, if you push out on your restraints (Keep your hands on the restraints and push) on the one ejector hill and both MCBR's, you won't have any problems. Skyrush on the 'wings' is worst. No matter what my son did, he got stapled. But he was fine on the inside. Of course a little pain is no deterrent for him, since both rides give such great rides.


    Some of the best rides do require a little defensive planning depending on your body type.

  10. 1) The Beast (Sentimental favorite, rode it when it opened in 79)

    2) Goliath SFGA, IL

    3) Maverick

    4) El Toro

    5) Top Thrill Dragster

    6) Diamondback (it's hard to choose from the B&M hypers, but their seats rule!)

    7) Banshee

    8) Voyage

    9) Superman UF (SFGav)

    10) Kumba


    Honorable mentions:

    Montu, Raptor


    Dominator (I rode when it was Batman at GL)

    American Eagle

    The original Bat at KI


  11. Yes, I've been to several Six Flags and Magic Mountain seems to be the worst when it comes to opening/churning through letting guests into the park.


    An entrance (clearly labelled) as SEASON PASSHOLDERS ONLY would help quite a bit of the mess up front --- there's just too much going on (people coming in the park with/without tickets already purchases/Discover/out of state season passes etc. Plus I think it would be cool and even help to spread out the initial crowds each morning.


    I don't know how common this is at this point (I'm guessing not very), but with how much things have changed (in terms of how revenue is gained from park entry) it's strange that the parks have not addressed this yet....especially in a place like Valencia, where the main gate is a decent haul from the lot - and whether you wait for the bus in the hot sun or hoof it, you're pretty hot and bothered by the time you actually make it into the park!


    What is up with the mess at the gates? I visited my first Six Flags parks this year (Six Flags GA and Gav). I bought season passes and it still took forever to get through the gates.

  12. Chuck,


    Thank you for the report and great pictures.


    You are an outstanding poster and contributor to this forum. You have a great sense of humor.


    I will forgive you for dislike of my all time favorite roller coaster; The Beast The Beast can be rough and likes to smack the unwary around. The slow first lift hill gives everyone a a chance to flee before risking the chance of getting eaten/beaten...LOL Unlike El-Toro. For the best rides on The Beast, it's either the first row or row 17. (And a night-ride to truly appreciate it)


    If you ride any B&M flyer then ride FireHawk, you spend most of the ride wondering if you're really safe with the restraints it uses. I also tend to think B&M took the concept from Vekoma and perfected it.

  13. ps. What's sad is that B&M's USED to F**KING BLOW PEOPLE AWAY AND MAKE THEM GO "WHAT THE F**K" DID I JUST RIDE?!?!? HOLY SH!T!!!!!"

    Wouldn't it be nice to have that version of the company back again?


    This is what I don't understand...why would they change their style/philosophy when they were churning out world class rides year after year? I understand that parks have a great deal of input into what they get, but pretty much all of the B&M's built since like 2002 are considered "tame", which leads me to assume it has something to do with the manufacturer.

    I still think it is the park that asked B&M to make tamed rides. Even though I haven't been on Oziris, I think it could be pretty intense. Similar to Intamin, Cheetah Hunt is not intense compare to other Intamins because the park want a family coaster.

    OzIris has to be one of my least favorite B&Ms. It looked... **AWESOME** and just had zero forces on it. ...snoooooze...


    I hope you're wrong and Banshee turns out to be more like Raptor than Oziris as a huge KI enthusiast.


    And I really don't understand why none of the CF parks aren't clamoring for a copy of Maverick. Best roller coaster in Ohio, period.

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